hie LYN ICE sifus...

im currently thinking of making some upgrade to my current OEM ICE setup but couldnt really decide what brand shud i choose as my level of ICE is still low ...still a beginner but not completely noob hehehehe ....below are details that might be helpful in order to recommend me something that is above average and sounds good...

probably u all could suggest something in a range of rating of 6.5-8 out of perfect 10, doesnt really need to be as good as 10 perfect ...something better in range of music that i listen and suits the budget i have...

looking for: 1 set of component speaker...
budget: RM800-RM1000...
current setup: just changed the OEM P2 BetaMax HU to Pioneer DEH 3850..other speakers or setup are still stock....no subwoofer, tweeters or amplifier...back speaker i have already disconnected...
vehicle: P2 kelisa...
music type listened: a mix of various type, mostly current latest stuffs...like pop, hiphop, rap, house, dance, a little bit trance, techno, disco, r&b, alternative, normal rock and slow rock, themes, soundtracks and scores....a little bit of everything....but not really in jazz or classical stuffs....
audio direction: i think its SQL...u all decide as im not sure...
remarks: importance of the speaker selection would be more on vocal clarity (as i like to sing-along ...) and clean background music, prefer bass which is not that heart shaking or thumping or boom boom boom, maybe low or deep bass i suppose....preferably temporarily this component set could provide some bass untill i get a amp and sub next year...atleast shud be something that doesnt sound cracky when i crank the volume up....hehehee....

hhmm....this are the details that i can think off u all might be needing ...if there is a need for more details, please ask ....from this component set, in future i wish to add a 2/4 channel amp and sub but that will be next year or so....

any response here would be very appreciated, thanks all.....

This post has been edited by shocker: Dec 8 2006, 11:13 PM

no amp for now ?

since you dun hav an amp now... why dun keep the money and buy it together when you are buying your amp... IMHO component matching is very important... so buy the amp and the component together and get the best match to your ears... this way you can save more for having the right match for your ears...

and well your music preference is kinda hard to determine what suits you the most... mayb something more specific?

cheers...

well, not just to mention having no amp, im still using the crappy OEM BetaMax speakers ....when i crank up the volume, they will start to squeal like a pig during certain songs ...hehehehe....

i tend to see and understand wat is ur point craziechild, but i want to upgrade step by step so atleast i appreciate the upgrades and sound differences better by each time upgrades are done ....if im not mistaken, this is wat most ppl would say to do if budget is a not meeting ICE target...upgrade step by step...hehehehe....

on music preferance, lets just narrow down to pop, hiphop, dance/trance and rock...let me know if something is in range of these genre...

actually maybe u can start wif a pair of entry level focal.. it is g00d wif pop and high tone..

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alpine spx-177r.. good wif strong mid and moderate high..

this is what i can recommend... all other folks here can introduce u other brands...

but hope that u can feed back after ur mod.. he! he!

thanks for ur suggestion ....but can u please point out which focal is it? there is quite some focals around...focal polyglass, K2P, access, utopia....

2 years back i listened to rockford fosgate fanatic X 2614 comps in my frens wira ....sound is quite crisp i would say, but since then sure got better speakers leadi....also few mths back i audited a JL audio XR series comps but seems like nothing special ...probably i listened it in a show room.....

wat u guys think of my budget? is it too low or high for a beginner.....probably since just starting out and want some high differences from normal OEM speakers, i shud start low like with boschmann or soundstream and upgrade from there...but then that would be like wasting money a bit rite....

im more like a fan of MTX and RF (used to heard about them) but not sure which would suit me better, worse still which model....not only they are reputable brand but they would look nice on door panel too...hehehehe...

beware of the K2P cause i think those have a lot of imitation of those in the market

i was told last time then between HU, amp and speakers. out of the 3, you get the most difference when changing speakers/drivers compared to the other 2

phase liner sounds good, tested on my friends car
not really a fan of alpine
dun really like focals either to harsh for me

You can try
Helix Blue 6
DLS B6, C6
Alpine SPX-177R

This speaker good for beginner..

yeah, there is various kind of fake ICE stuff around especially in lelong ....and worse still ppl are bidding and paying for such stuff...

u said between HU, amp and speakers, speakers/drivers makes most difference...may i know wat is drivers and, phase liners?

reading from various forum threads, mostly ppl would say go step by step for upgrades if budget is an issue...

step 1: change to a good and reliable HU
step 2: change to a good component set speaker
step 3: install a good 4 channel amplifier
step 4: install a good subwoofer

are u telling me there is another way around perhaps? some ppl tend to install a amp first, then change comps and later change HU...

some even said installing a amplifier improve the sound on their OEM P2 speakers which is kind of made from paper...hehehehe....

hie loon, i tot u recommended last time mb quart? hehehehe... i thought beginner speakers are like those from like BM boschmann or soundstream, care to elaborate...thanks...

another silly question would be, these speakers are within my budget? would it suit the music type i listen? i dont want the speakers to sound like koyak later on...hehehehehe....

Hi brother!
MB Quart in Penang the most cheaper now is RM1k...loh
Mostly MB Quart more than 1k...
so I dun introduce u..

Maybe I recomance you so reasonable price shop ..you go and ask for it loh...

hi bro,
ur sentence above conflicts with each other ...first u said cheapest is RM1K then u said mostly more than RM1K...which one is it ? hehehehee....

besides golden and alpha, where else u recommend ler ...asacar in kulim sounds good, cheaper and professional but far ler...

This post has been edited by shocker: Dec 1 2006, 08:42 PM

I mean most of the shops at pg sold MB Quart Discus more than 1k..
But I found one cheapest around RM1k..
If go to Asacar...maybe can find at RM900 guar

hehehe....cheaper i think can find one...but must make sure they are authentic also since MBQ stuff a lot of fake ones also...

also important is that tuning which most shops lacks around pg ....those well known for tuning are normally expensive but they do good job....

u mind telling me where is ur recommended reasonable price shop ...im thinking of getting a set of good comp in 1-2 weeks time before i head down to KL on mid mth...

can get a good 3-way speakers for RM200 ka??

For old Mb Quart, sure got a lot of imitation...
But If you looking for new DSF216 (red color one), it not yet have any imitation in market.
Most of the shop still carry the DSE216 old MB Quart you have to make sure it have Autocraft sticker or not, but Asacar have DSF216 and have Autocraft sticker because my friend just install it from Asacar few months ago.

For reasonable price shop, I only prefer go to Alpha...
You can also survey & compare the price before purchase...
Sometime the shop sell cheap doesn't mean they have good skill...

bro u mean this one below? so far i didnt came across DSF216 or DSE216....



red u mean of the crossover's PCB color is it ?

hehehe...alpha dat white hair chinese uncle, he recommend me last time for beginner users BM boschmann comps speaker with LA's bolt amps ....but his stuff is some sort limited i would say, he dont keep a lot of stuff around but he say can order ler....

i heard his myvi he did da sound is quite good but i didnt get the chance to listen myself....

DSF216 is the new Discus ....


The DSD216, DSE216 is old version...

My latest setup tuning by the uncle...

looks nice man ....i suppose it sounds nice too ? sorry im a bit new in ICE so didnt realise already got new MBQ comp in market.....

this one u got for RM1K is it ? hows the performance ? i think this new MBQ not yet come out with fake one just yet ...only earlier models so far....

is it true that discus line is like entry level for MBQ ? thanks........l

This post has been edited by shocker: Dec 3 2006, 10:32 PM

drivers = speakers, both are the same, just different name

yup

MB Quart have 4 level speaker
Discus is the beginner speaker
DSF 216


Reference
RVF 216


Premium
PCE 216


Q-line is the high-end for MB Quart
QSD 216