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post Oct 26 2015, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(farkingdom @ Oct 26 2015, 10:19 PM)
It's a nice price but IMHO 4k is turning me off, due to battery draining faster. Wish Dell would come out with a version for FullHD + i7 processor though
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Yup Lenovo Y700 is looking good, I'm trying to check the local pricing.
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post Oct 26 2015, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(klmojuze @ Oct 26 2015, 09:51 PM)
Mind. Blown. Edit: The RM4,500 is probably the non-touch 1080p screen. Touch with 4K for RM4,500 sounds... insane. EDIT2: IT'S THE UHD 4K ONE!  shocking.gif
AFAIK DDR3 is lower voltage and cheaper, and from what I see from the benchmarks DDR4 even when insanely overclocked rarely improves performance for Intel-Nvidia setups.

16GB of RAM and a 256GB SSD along with at least Nvidia 960M 4GB are they key areas IMO.
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shakehead.gif , DDR4 is lower in voltage bud.......
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post Oct 26 2015, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Oct 26 2015, 10:23 PM)
shakehead.gif , DDR4 is lower in voltage bud.......
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Oops I mean DDR3L vs DDR4 for laptop memory.
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QUOTE(klmojuze @ Oct 26 2015, 09:51 PM)
Mind. Blown. Edit: The RM4,500 is probably the non-touch 1080p screen. Touch with 4K for RM4,500 sounds... insane. EDIT2: IT'S THE UHD 4K ONE!  shocking.gif
AFAIK DDR3 is lower voltage and cheaper, and from what I see from the benchmarks DDR4 even when insanely overclocked rarely improves performance for Intel-Nvidia setups.

16GB of RAM and a 256GB SSD along with at least Nvidia 960M 4GB are they key areas IMO.
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if gaming just set the resolution to full hd lor
but 4k totally overkill on such small screen laugh.gif

QUOTE(farkingdom @ Oct 26 2015, 10:19 PM)
It's a nice price but IMHO 4k is turning me off, due to battery draining faster. Wish Dell would come out with a version for FullHD + i7 processor though
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yea, but it seems we won't get it since dell malaysia website didn't listed
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post Oct 26 2015, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(klmojuze @ Oct 26 2015, 10:25 PM)
Oops I mean DDR3L vs DDR4 for laptop memory.
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........ DDR4 is still lower in voltage compared to DDR3L.......... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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post Oct 26 2015, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Oct 26 2015, 10:27 PM)
........ DDR4 is still lower in voltage compared to DDR3L..........  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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Okie dokie my bad... http://www.tomshardware.com/news/skylake-m...port,30185.html

I still feel DDR3L vs DDR4 on Skylake won't make a huge difference but it sure would feel better, "emotionally", with DDR4.

QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Oct 26 2015, 10:26 PM)
if gaming just set the resolution to full hd lor
Which would be kind of weird since you're not playing at native pixels and indeed 4K on 15" is a little crazy.

Edit: Nice, Lenovo Y700 is DDR4... And if I'm not mistaken at MidValley the model listed for under RM 5,000 is 16GB RAM, Nvidia 960M 4GB and 128GB SSD + 1TB HD. General spec sheet here: http://news.lenovo.com/images/20034/ideapa...pec%20Sheet.pdf

I guess it'll be best to wait for the Lenovo MY online store to be updated to see the official model details and pricing.

This post has been edited by klmojuze: Oct 26 2015, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE(klmojuze @ Oct 26 2015, 10:28 PM)
Which would be kind of weird since you're not playing at native pixels and indeed 4K on 15" is a little crazy.

Edit: Nice, Lenovo Y700 is DDR4... And if I'm not mistaken at MidValley the model listed for under RM 5,000 is 16GB RAM, Nvidia 960M 4GB and 128GB SSD + 1TB HD. General spec sheet here: http://news.lenovo.com/images/20034/ideapa...pec%20Sheet.pdf

I guess it'll be best to wait for the Lenovo MY online store to be updated to see the official model details and pricing.
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IMO is quite crazy on 15.6" screen laugh.gif
as for lenovo y700, don't put so much hope on it
since right now due to weak currency, most of the product (example laptop) price is higher cry.gif
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post Oct 26 2015, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Oct 26 2015, 11:06 PM)
IMO is quite crazy on 15.6" screen laugh.gif
as for lenovo y700, don't put so much hope on it
since right now due to weak currency, most of the product (example laptop) price is higher cry.gif
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Yeah it's all over the place at the moment. To be honest I'm looking to sell my MacBook Pro Retina 15" (mid-2014) and then switch over to an Nvidia 960M 4GB.

For design and smoothness of OSX Apple is still very nice but I would like some nice 3D horsepower for 2016 mainly for Nvidia IRay GPU rendering. A "gaming" laptop is just nice because I would like the portability and I don't need too fancy a card, just a decent Maxwell with 4GB VRAM.

But while the currency is crazy, RM may recover somewhat, and with the new rush to sell gaming laptops prices can come down or manufacturers may keep prices and stuff more features in (like 256GB SSD smile.gif). Maybe around the RM 5,000 mark end of this year or early next year we might see some nice models with 970M 4GB.

So, Lord willing:
Nice Skylake i7
16GB DDR4
256GB SSD + 1TB HD
Nvidia 970M 4GB
1080p (fine for 15" if the colours etc are good... A 2K 24" or so external monitor will be just nice if I need to work in "desktop mode")
RM 5,000 or less

Cheers all and good night.
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post Oct 27 2015, 02:15 PM

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I think there are more people who prefers 1080p than uhd. What was dell malaysia thinking? I mean, sure at that price thats a very good deal but some people doesnt need that. I would be more than happy to buy the 1080p i7 version if Dell bring it to Msia. And dos option is another good idea. But again maybe im asking too much. Lol
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I tink for the time being i m more into i5 7559 8gb ram compare to msi pe60. From my search online, there is not much different between 5700hq n 6700hq. Besides, 7559 has 4gb gpu ram, and ive heard that dell cstomer service is cream of the cream.
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QUOTE(Dutchlady @ Oct 27 2015, 03:55 PM)
I tink for the time being i m more into i5 7559 8gb ram compare to msi pe60. From my search online, there is not much different between 5700hq n 6700hq. Besides, 7559 has 4gb gpu ram, and ive heard that dell cstomer service is cream of the cream.
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That's my initial choice too.
Who knows, ended up with the i7 4k Touch. Purely due to the price and I can bare with its downsides. tongue.gif
Unless they have the i7 FHD Touch or non touch, will surely go for it. Imagine the price fall between the current i7 and i5 spec. drool.gif

True, I would say Dell service is very pro.
Polite, initiative and responsible, what else? Nothing to complaint so far....... thumbup.gif



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QUOTE(ariesto @ Oct 27 2015, 06:15 PM)
That's my initial choice too.
Who knows, ended up with the i7 4k Touch. Purely due to the price and I can bare with its downsides. tongue.gif
Unless they have the i7 FHD Touch or non touch, will surely go for it. Imagine the price fall between the current i7 and i5 spec. drool.gif

True, I would say Dell service is very pro.
Polite, initiative and responsible, what else? Nothing to complaint so far....... thumbup.gif
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For those really want go for UHD, please google >>> 4k UHD 48Hz issue

eg: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Lenovo-P-Y-and...ok/td-p/1672439

Above example is lenovo, but MSI GS series also facing same.

I not sure dell had any solution for UHD panel, but IF you only can play game @ 49FPS Max even though your GPU is more than able to handle it mad.gif
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post Oct 27 2015, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(neikichi @ Oct 24 2015, 07:51 PM)
I bought one ddr4 ram on c-zone digital mall, its available there, but they dont want to insert the ram module on the lappy scare broke something and ask me to ask asus centre guy to install which i need to pay stupid fee, then i just install myself.. hahaha tongue.gif
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So expensive it's intimidating eh?
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QUOTE(tachlio @ Oct 27 2015, 08:23 PM)
For those really want go for UHD, please google >>> 4k UHD 48Hz issue

eg: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Lenovo-P-Y-and...ok/td-p/1672439

Above example is lenovo, but MSI GS series also facing same.

I not sure dell had any solution for UHD panel, but IF you only can play game @ 49FPS Max even though your GPU is more than able to handle it  mad.gif
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That's the catch here, as you had mentioned earlier.

Use 4k for general purpose/low setting game play.
FHD for high setting gameplay.
I'm ok with this because I use it for 80%work:20%game, maybe 9:1. cool2.gif

A user had posted the scaling of the 4k display work fine with window10 in youtube.
Not like the XPS issue.

Here you go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwoHcFTI-Ps

This post has been edited by ariesto: Oct 27 2015, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE(klmojuze @ Oct 26 2015, 10:28 PM)
Okie dokie my bad... http://www.tomshardware.com/news/skylake-m...port,30185.html

I still feel DDR3L vs DDR4 on Skylake won't make a huge difference but it sure would feel better, "emotionally", with DDR4.
Which would be kind of weird since you're not playing at native pixels and indeed 4K on 15" is a little crazy.

Edit: Nice, Lenovo Y700 is DDR4... And if I'm not mistaken at MidValley the model listed for under RM 5,000 is 16GB RAM, Nvidia 960M 4GB and 128GB SSD + 1TB HD. General spec sheet here: http://news.lenovo.com/images/20034/ideapa...pec%20Sheet.pdf

I guess it'll be best to wait for the Lenovo MY online store to be updated to see the official model details and pricing.
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Pretty much not much difference. Like you said just for "emotional" thing.
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post Oct 27 2015, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Oct 27 2015, 08:07 PM)
Pretty much not much difference. Like you said just for "emotional" thing.
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Yup, my emotions like the DDR4 though... OK update: I checked with the Lenovo shop in MidValley again, they have the Y50/Y70 on display, not the new Y700. The shop manager/etc. mentioned it would arrive end of November, if I heard correctly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JVNMmsN3Co

WARNING: Thin laptops can have thermal throttling...This apparently affects the Lenovo Y50/70 because of its thinness. I haven't been able to confirm. I ~can~ confirm this occurs with MacBook Pro Retina 15" mid-2014. Turbo boost throttles from 3.2ghz for four cores down to 2.7ghz or lower under full load (and CPU temp is almost 100degC)... Even if you "force"/overclock 3.2ghz in such a situation CPU temperature even with full fans will shoot past 100degC and it will throttle/shut down anyway to prevent frying the CPU.

In comparison, Asus G55 can handle 3.2ghz at 90degC under full load, no throttling. The latest Alienware 15" I checked out today is quite bulky IMO so I assume it can handle overclocking (and it has a 980M anyway so I'm sure it has some pretty beefy CPU and GPU cooling).

Please advise if you have experienced any gaming laptop with thermal throttling where it cannot maintain the rated turbo boost speed at 4 cores under full load. Check out http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/mot...ng-utility.html ...You can also overclock through bus clock (DISCLAIMER: YOU MAY VOID YOUR WARRANTY, DAMAGE YOUR LAPTOP ETC).

FWIW Asus G55 3630QM... I can overclock the CPU 3.2ghz to 3.3ghz, run it full load for hours (without GPU overclock of course)... But I usually don't because I overclock the GPU instead and leave the CPU and bus speed as is.

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QUOTE(ariesto @ Oct 27 2015, 06:15 PM)
That's my initial choice too.
Who knows, ended up with the i7 4k Touch. Purely due to the price and I can bare with its downsides. tongue.gif
Unless they have the i7 FHD Touch or non touch, will surely go for it. Imagine the price fall between the current i7 and i5 spec. drool.gif

True, I would say Dell service is very pro.
Polite, initiative and responsible, what else? Nothing to complaint so far....... thumbup.gif
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how I wish dell malaysia bring the i7 version + full hd non touch cry.gif
just like what US got

QUOTE(ariesto @ Oct 27 2015, 08:06 PM)
That's the catch here, as you had mentioned earlier.

Use 4k for general purpose/low setting game play.
FHD for high setting gameplay.
I'm ok with this because I use it for 80%work:20%game, maybe 9:1.  cool2.gif

A user had posted the scaling of the 4k display work fine with window10 in youtube.
Not like the XPS issue.

Here you go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwoHcFTI-Ps
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just my suggestion, if gaming just set back to full hd or lower
otherwise, enjoy the 4k resolution whistling.gif
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QUOTE(tachlio @ Oct 27 2015, 07:23 PM)
For those really want go for UHD, please google >>> 4k UHD 48Hz issue

eg: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Lenovo-P-Y-and...ok/td-p/1672439

Above example is lenovo, but MSI GS series also facing same.

I not sure dell had any solution for UHD panel, but IF you only can play game @ 49FPS Max even though your GPU is more than able to handle it  mad.gif
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The Dell 7559 is supposed to have a 60Hz UHD display based on feedback in notebookreview forums.
UHD is IMO very nice to have, you can run it at 250% scaling and it'll look like 1920x1080 at 150% scaling. You'll get very sharp text and fonts. In games you can run at 1920x1080 , since UHD is exactly double the vertical and horizontal resolution of 1920x1080 you'll get minimal blurring. This is based on my experience using a WQHD+ XPS 15. Personally I still won't get the UHD 7559 since it doesn't have TB3, it doesn't make sense to me to spend that much on something that will have no external GPU support.
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QUOTE(Racerx @ Oct 27 2015, 09:59 PM)
The Dell 7559 is supposed to have a 60Hz UHD display based on feedback in notebookreview forums.
UHD is IMO very nice to have, you can run it at 250% scaling and it'll look like 1920x1080 at 150% scaling. You'll get very sharp text and fonts. In games you can run at 1920x1080 , since UHD is exactly double the vertical and horizontal resolution of 1920x1080 you'll get minimal blurring. This is based on my experience using a WQHD+ XPS 15. Personally I still won't get the UHD 7559 since it doesn't have TB3, it doesn't make sense to me to spend that much on something that will have no external GPU support.
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go get the upcoming xpx 15 RRP 6699 brows.gif
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Oct 27 2015, 10:00 PM)
go get the upcoming xpx 15 RRP 6699 brows.gif
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Very tempted, but RM6699 is a huge sum of money for a laptop IMO. sweat.gif

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