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post Nov 16 2015, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(Amedion @ Nov 16 2015, 11:00 AM)
Oh don't worry about that.. The strongest muscle is our leg as we use it everyday.. Everyone can easily squat their own bodyweight pretty quick..
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post Nov 16 2015, 01:06 PM

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I did watch some youtube videos. most people will do a low bar one.
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post Nov 16 2015, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(Amedion @ Nov 16 2015, 11:48 AM)
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is this a picture of you?
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post Nov 16 2015, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(Amedion @ Nov 16 2015, 01:19 PM)
No.. I simply search at google..

Normally powerlifters would go for low bar cause less depth = more weights.. if you're not competing.. Its more beneficial to do high bar squat as it work more on your quad.. low bar squat works more on glute/hamstring which already covered by deadlift..
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thanks for the pro tip. will work on it rclxms.gif
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post Nov 16 2015, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Nov 16 2015, 01:45 PM)
hmm.gif Oasis and Kota Kemuning also got rack what.
Still can't believe you can't squat a empty 20kg barbell. Even girls can do that.  shakehead.gif
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no bro. I didnt say I cannot. I havent try. The other time i mentioned about olympic barbell is that using it to bench press. squats i havent try.

so far deadlift I tried 30kg. It wasnt difficult. but i just mentioned I felt it at the wrong places.
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QUOTE(nivlanauk @ Nov 16 2015, 01:46 PM)
Also, please avoid playing with the Smith machine. You wouldn't engage your core stability as much as free weights as the machine is stabilising the weight for you
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will do. I just thought of it as I saw the other members do it in the gym. So I thought oh you can do it like that on the smith machine.

I workout in the gym while observing people on how and what they do. cause I am still learning. Long way to go.

I watch youtubers workout with proper form and stuff. Easier said than done. Needs practise.

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post Nov 16 2015, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Nov 16 2015, 01:58 PM)
blink.gif No offence but you didn't use barbell for deadlift? Use smith machine? rclxub.gif
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I used barbell for deadlift. Hamptons. 30kg.

I was saying that I was thinking about using smith machine for weighted squats since I saw some members did that.
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post Nov 16 2015, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(panda-man @ Nov 16 2015, 01:59 PM)
hes talking about smith for squat.
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bingo. anyttime fitness gave me free PT but the PT only taught me how to use machines. and treadmill and the bicycle machine.

and he was the one to tell me to use machines first. Dumbells and barbells are for the advanced. yawn.gif So dont bother first about those.

I only started to learn about deadlifts. squats. and barbell stuff bench press. dumbell press from youtube.



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post Nov 16 2015, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(nivlanauk @ Nov 16 2015, 02:04 PM)
Have you heard of starting strength?
Search on YouTube, he has some good videos
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Just did a search on youtube. Its mark rippletoe haha
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post Nov 16 2015, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Nov 16 2015, 02:06 PM)
Must be really a small barbell since you said you can't lift the 20kg barbell during bench press.
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thats why i find it weird. I dont know. Smith machine was easy since they do all the balancing for me already. I am able to do 20kg on smith. Maybe I am weak??

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QUOTE(panda-man @ Nov 16 2015, 02:09 PM)
different muscles lah bro. deadlift & squat max will be more than bench. if its the other way around, then need to adjust work out plan.
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yeah. thats why I was saying that my shoulders might be able to support the extra weight. I been doing bodyweight squats. It is getting easier...well...at least it seems so to me...

So i thought I might wanna decrease the reps and add weights to it. cause i never try before.
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QUOTE(panda-man @ Nov 16 2015, 02:11 PM)
have you checked the resistance on the smith machine? each machine is kinda different. you mean 20kg of plates? or total weight?
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The other day I tried looking for the resistance when unloaded... Its not stated on the smith machine. 20kg I meant 10 kg plates per side. so total weight is 20kg assuming it is 0 when unloaded which I dont think so at all.
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QUOTE(panda-man @ Nov 16 2015, 02:13 PM)
lot of good beginners programs out there. starting strength, 5x5. im working my way up 5x5 right now after a year haitus due to injury. quite like the program.
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O.o i watch chris jones LOL. he is massive hahaha.

show some progress and results? drool.gif
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post Nov 16 2015, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Nov 16 2015, 02:26 PM)
sleep.gif Know lah is different muscles but for those also cannot do an empty barbell rep shows how not ready he is.
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Like I said. I am not sure now but I dont think I can engage my biceps or chest to lift up the empty barbell. but I think I can handle the extra weight on my shoulders/ traps. just maybe. need to try tonight
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 16 2015, 02:55 PM)
if u can do decent pushups, empty bar is no problem la.
in general a pushup is 60% of ur bodyweight.
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yeah I can do pushups
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post Nov 16 2015, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(panda-man @ Nov 16 2015, 03:02 PM)
resistance at my gyms one is i think 9kg. i think its not the cannot do, but afraid to do hehe. let us know the outcome.
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alright bro. flex.gif
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post Nov 17 2015, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(panda-man @ Nov 16 2015, 03:02 PM)
resistance at my gyms one is i think 9kg. i think its not the cannot do, but afraid to do hehe. let us know the outcome.
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alright here goes today's workout.

I stepped into the gym at 9.30pm. I saw there is this Aussie Staff that I never seen before sitting at the office.

I think he is here to do some inspection.

Anyways, here goes... I tried fiddling with the free weights barbell and I found out that there are smaller barbells but they are so short. I think those are 15kg ones.

Nevertheless, i tried benching with it. No problems with that. Just balancing issues. and the rack is not suitable I think for short barbells 15kg.

So then, I tried the 20kg ones. I can also bench it but unstable as expected. So next I tried squating with it. I also can do it. But problem is the racking part. There is this part of the barbell between the weights and the bar. That round thing to rack the barbell.

It seems that one side shorter and one side longer. Not sure if can adjust. Surprisingly monday chest day so empty. So cant ask anyone to put the plates to stabilize them. I tried putting 5kg each side and it cost problems to rack it back and the plates moved but didnt fall out.

Then i lost patience, I went to ask the Aussie staff dude to teach me to setup the free weights barbell for bench press and squats.

He immediately told me nono. I think you can better off with the smith machine said the Aussie dude.

He told me it is dangerous to work out alone with free weights and just ignored teaching me how to setup. He points to the smith machine and said that it is safer to use it.

So today I used the smith machine to squat for the first time and used the usual dumbbells to chest press. Managed to do 18kg plates in total to squat 3 sets at 15 reps each. Not too difficult it seems. Not sure how much resistance for smith machine barbell unloaded.

Then I asked the Aussie dude, so how about deadlift? Can you teach me how to do it?

Then he said I dont recommend you to do deadlift. In fact, anytime fitness has this unwritten rule to not do deadlifts. Thats why you see there is no rack for barbell squats and stuff.

Then the big aussie dude said even I dont do deadlifts myself. Its far too dangerous and you might injure yourself.

So no choice but to say okay lor...

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post Nov 17 2015, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(panda-man @ Nov 17 2015, 12:49 AM)
Hahaha. But some gyms do have policy against deadlift. They are scared of injury and also don't like people dropping the weights. Noise, damage floor, etc. But what a d*ckhead he could at least help you with the weights. Did he show you how to use a the smith?

Good job on the bench and squats!

The round part should be fixed in place and balanced... first time hearing they are different lengths at each side....
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yeah man. It was different lengths at both sides as one of the side is CAPPED closer to the middle of the bar and the other end is further away from the middle of the bar. So its uneven. Dont know how to rack or use it. I tried twisting and turning the cap but it wont budge at all. So lost LOL. Looked like a fat kid trying out his new toys. Lucky not many people yesterday surprisingly.

He didnt teach me how to use the smith machine but I observed people doing it before so its fine. One question though, you know there is this clip thingy for locking in the plates to the barbells?

Does the smith machine need those clips? Some people I see dont lock them in. I tried the clip on the smith machine last night... the size like dont fit... kinda loosely clip LOL

Anyways conclusion is the aussie bro was a crappy fella. LOL maybe I should try asking other members on how to deadlift... then again... in my 3 months at the gym... nobody does it.... wonder why... I thought its good exersice like squats... hmm.gif
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post Nov 17 2015, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(Amedion @ Nov 17 2015, 09:12 AM)
Ask them change name to Pussy fitness.

Squat & Deadlift is like queen and king of all exercises.
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no deadlift policy lol screw him.. gonna try it again hahaha. but my form still a bit off.. nvm ba. wednesday if got some friendly looking members then ask them ba

but for squats I am actually able to do it. rclxm9.gif hahaha just didnt try all the while with weights.

Then I also questioned his advise yesterday. I told him shouldnt it be better to use free weights as it engages more muscles to balance the barbell? rather than controlled movement smith machine?

He said start from smith machine then only go free weights. LOL

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post Nov 17 2015, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(Wolger @ Nov 17 2015, 09:17 AM)
what the...seriously bro..it's time to find a new gym..the hook on the power rack can be adjusted to upper chest level, so you can rack the bar properly after a squat exercise..

How is deadlift dropping weight?

Some cheap gym helper will be so gladĀ  to teach and guide you.
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okay actually I know how to adjust the hook on the power rack. I did put it to chest level last night. But problem is the cap thing on the barbell..Between the mid of the barbell and the plates on the other end.... there is this cap thing... problem is the 15kg one is too short to use on the rack.... the 20kg one is uneven sides....

I dont know the barbell is faulty or what LOL.... i tried twisting and turning it just wont readjust the cap on the barbell..

When I was trying out the deadlift... i never drop the weights LOL.... the aussie guy said people drop the weights wor....

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