Dear Fren, Its not easy to talk to Ecoworld.....when they sell you anything they promised you the world...have you spoken to them at the show house as most of them not fluent wth the technical specifications and most of them are being transferred from another location to another location to assist the sales.....

If the picture are real, then all of us should be lucky it was highlighted by an angry contractor, consultant or ex-worker....but if its not real then it should be clarified and deny by Ecoworld....Ecoworld has more to lose in this situation if it was brought to their attention in their office and if no action taken or constant no reply from them, then the power of social blogs and facebook comes in... But no so lucky for the houses that have being plastered already....

I can see some of the feedbacks from bloggers looks like Ecoworld staff as most of them will defend Ecoworld products...so I am pretty sure Ecoworld is in the know of any defects or problems......

As you can see the large pipe is situated too far on the right beside a standing brick and only cover by a bit of cement and a standing brick...looks like it is out of place and should be situated in the centre of the wall for more firm placement.

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This picture is showing mis-look electric power point and the hacking from the power point to the floor looks flimsy and may lead to wall cracking in the future.
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As highlighted by the blogger, the window sill has no bricks but only cement and if this is true, in time the window sill will cracked and the window frame will leaked water inside the window.
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On the comments by blogger that top brass buys Cradleton houses, I have seen in other developer, houses bought by them are of better build and quality for that respective houses or for the respective phase or row of houses bought by the top brass people.

I din talk to them at the show house coz I am the banglow land buyer.
Nobody can confirm the photos r real at tis moment.
If nobody of house buyers wanna to tk initial, how is ew going to verify n improve.
If the photos r false. Maybe ew should tk some action as well.

This post has been edited by Rabel: Dec 7 2015, 12:54 PM

All and all, but wanna ask u a question, have u clarified all these with EcoWorld since u took the initiative to site visit and took the photos? And summore u r from construction line?

For me, whenever I found major defect or huge issues, I will seek for developer's position for clarification directly instead of attacking them via e-forum bcz, this is still under construction period and not delivery post yet.

If u have file up the complaint, lets share what the OIC told u. But, pls share more and I would like to clarify above is true and really passed to EW for further action.

Dear friend, I have personally bought properties from few top developers, I can tell u EcoWorld is one of the developer that always wiling to listen to purchasers.

Btw, 1 buyer if found any misconduct of defects should go personally and share us with points and facts. If more people found it, then only form a RA to do so but to seek clarification instead of complaints.

Thats great if u able to bring up this issue for all of us to alert and be cautious anyway. But 1 unable to represent all owners to say that developer is owing us an answer bcz there were 600 buyers of Cradleton and if accumulate all houses, thats 1500 todate.

That's true. To request EW to allow each buyer to go into site for inspection is not feasible as well, in both time arrangement and safety.

Therefore, I would be appreciated if someone in the construction field can compile a list of defects / bad workmanship based on the pictures shared and send to the developer for verification/rectification. After that, share with us the response from EW on the matter. If you need the purchasers' support, mention the report reference number here (if applicable or any obvious indicator) and I personally will lodge the support and chase EW for explanation.

Blindly share some site pictures and condamn upside down won't help anyone, although you are purchaser yourself. Most essentially, layman like me don't understand if it is that bad quality and thus need the constructive remarks from those in the line.

This post has been edited by samkps: Dec 7 2015, 01:49 PM

Right.

Just a dumb question from a layman, laying the bricks vertically shall cause the cracks, how about those laying in slanted manner? Is it all the bricks must be laid horizontally to avoid cracks in future?

This post has been edited by samkps: Dec 7 2015, 01:53 PM

But not all buyer is engineer. Hope some buyer with engineering background can lead

Just wanna ask something here, are Cradleton units all sold out already?

Notice that the debate is getting hotter. My advice to the buyer is - please go and talk to EM/EW. Seriously, since the claims of shoddy works are not directed to them but rather thrown/discussed in the forum, how would you expect EW to respond to you? Do you expect Evon or Dato Chang or Tan Sri out of sudden write in to LYN and tell the whole world that "hey the actual story is .... and we ...." or do you expect out of sudden they hold a press conference to clarify the matter? No, it won't happen and it's not the way too. This is not a small SME setup but a corporate. Or do you expect your SA out of sudden WhatsApp or call you to tell you that "hey lately someone posted in the LYN that... and we wish to clarify that ...". Again it won't happen. I personally talked to them and will ask for update as I know no matter how good or how bad I write in the forum they have no position to update me if I don't bring this matter up to them.

So, if the allegations are true, yes I truly appreciate it for the wake up call else god knows what the intention is. And even if the allegations are true, fine, get EM/EW to rectify the problems and stop labelling else what's the real intention behind? Honestly, I totally agreed with what Chris boss said, I think EW has been listening to the buyers and has been serious in taking action. In fact I understand that for one precint, not sure whether mistakes made or works not up to spec, the car porch was hacked and redo.

This post has been edited by Jasoncat: Dec 7 2015, 02:10 PM

+1

I never come across that any developer would publicly allowed the purchasers to go site visit to the respective units while still under construction stage.

Agreed. Better feedback to ew instead of just highlight the issue in the forum.

Hehe, please call 03 - 8723 2255 the hotline for Eco Majestic Gallery ...

Previously left some units of 22x75, but now not sure if fully sold.

As responsible customers, the right thing to do is to deal directly with the vendor as the houses are under construction and subject to warranty of 18 months.

Although I have benefited in learning bits of masonry. Next we may be discussing carpentry, sewage, electrical dll.

Yup.

It is right of buyer.

Anyhow big dmge to develooer with 6stars that need buyer to spot their qc

Can I know whether there are formal methods of accepting completed work that are not solely based on photo viewing?

I think the architects and consulting engineers have a role to play in accepting quality construction.

Still this recent expose is an eye opener for me.

This is a forum to highlight the defects and to solve the problems of the buyers and to share your own experience and not intended to be a battle ground to talk bad about anyone or developer.

I was unfortunate as I cannot view my house before the plastering of my unit as I am not based in Selangor.

Exactly.

Can highlight your frustrations here but most importantly deal directly with the interested parties.

The stakeholders are the owners, the vendors, the independent parties and authorities.

There is the QA/QC plan for compliance.

hrrmm . think most of the buyer from cradleton is EW internal staff right ? wonder what they will do to it if all pic shown are real ...

There are 612 units in Cradleton precint - impossible most of the buyers is EW internal staff