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ar188
post Nov 13 2015, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(PJusa @ Nov 13 2015, 07:42 AM)
sorry my idea of blockwood was different  - i considered it as solid wood. but i stand by what i can see with my own eyes. the plywood used in many of my friends kitchen is of lousy quality. the sheets get wobbly or even get loose all together. that is not the case with the ikea kitchen (maybe they simply better moisture seal i dont know). many real life examples where you can easily see that they last long even in malaysia. you absolutely get the best bang for your buck with ikea kitchens in malaysia. feel free to convince me otherwise. my current kitchen is 8 yrs old and looks like new. no trace of warping, water damage or anything else. its in 99% new condition left a few scratches from a knife slipped here and there. i even have a 5 laundry room fitted with ikea kitchen and its totally @ 100% - though that place is much more moist. so i would always choose ikea again.

and btw a kitchen is certainly not a house so i would not want to consider MDF for kitchen contruction for a house construction. demand pattern is so entirely different. that doesnt mean its very suitable for what its used for. there is a reason why its in use (and no, its not just price - otherwise how to stick the warranty to it?).
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make your own conclusions as you may. as i have not seen how badly done those plywood kitchen cabinets you mentioned. perhaps its down to workmanship
but material wise at board level there is no arguement which is strongest and most durable.

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post Nov 13 2015, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Nov 13 2015, 08:54 AM)
make your own conclusions as you may. as i have not seen how badly done those plywood kitchen cabinets you mentioned. perhaps its down to workmanship
but material wise at board level there is no arguement which is strongest and most durable.

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yes it probably boils down to the quality of either one used. as said, i have not seen any kitchen @ friends places that uses plywood and didnt warp. probaly a good one is too costly? i have also seen cheaper (not ikea) MDF ktichen that sucked badly. what i am saying is that the MDF used by IKEA is way better than the stuff you can get around the same price range from any other supplier. at least when i made my rounds for quotes and surveyed nobody offered me a better material and finish for the same price +/- 15%. bear in mind that i am NOT talking about the cheap range ikea kitchen but the "standard" modular kitchen. that stuff is very very well done - i dont think anyone will come and complain about that. their cheap range will probably not last - but that stuff is so dirt cheap you cant seriously expect it to last say 15-20 years anyway.
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post Nov 13 2015, 10:44 AM

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I am inclined to think that IKEA just cannot mass produce inferior quality cabinets that couldn't stand the test of time. They are known and proud of their kitchen especially when it's such a worldwide brand. Also I have not heard of any real complains from people who have used their kitchen cabinets. Plywood or not is a personal choice and unless MDF is proven to be very unreliable the argument of whether which is better is invalid.
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Nov 13 2015, 08:54 AM)
make your own conclusions as you may. as i have not seen how badly done those plywood kitchen cabinets you mentioned. perhaps its down to workmanship
but material wise at board level there is no arguement which is strongest and most durable.

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my wardrobe made using plywood and wood veneer - the doors all warped within a few months of installing. carpenters was kind enough to replace all the doors - not cheap ok as the wood veneer used that time was black ebony and they have to change all 16 doors because must match the grain pattern. in the end, few months later it warped again. How bad? Bad enough that that the door cant close nicely. They cant figure out why.

I think they either didnt use enough hinges. Some manufacturers I see them using a piece of metal at the back of the door to prevent it from warping.

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Is Ikea kitchen cabinet cheaper than most of the kitchen cabinet contractor outside if we compare the same material ?( as in compare mdf board to mdf board, plywood to plywood etc)
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Nov 13 2015, 01:32 PM)
my wardrobe made using plywood and wood veneer - the doors all warped within a few months of installing. carpenters was kind enough to replace all the doors - not cheap ok as the wood veneer used that time was black ebony and they have to change all 16 doors because must match the grain pattern. in the end, few months later it warped again. How bad? Bad enough that that the door cant close nicely. They cant figure out why.

I think they either didnt use enough hinges. Some manufacturers I see them using a piece of metal at the back of the door to prevent it from warping.
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must be using reject grade plywood materials lol. yes there are those types used for those who just want to use plywood to board up a construction area from plain sight.. thats like dirt cheap plys.. maybe rm30-40 for 4x8 feet panel 6-9mm


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QUOTE(ar188 @ Nov 13 2015, 06:10 PM)
must be using reject grade plywood materials lol. yes there are those types used for those who just want to use plywood to board up a construction area from plain sight.. thats like dirt cheap plys.. maybe rm30-40 for 4x8 feet panel 6-9mm
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I don't think it's the panel itself that warps but the frame work

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post Nov 13 2015, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Nov 13 2015, 06:16 PM)
I don't think it's the panel itself that warps but the frame work
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the frame is made out of plywood panel ma biggrin.gif

anyway, if its used over long unsupported lengths (like over 3feet etc), block board maybe the proper application since its comprises of short pieces of low grade solid wood blocks

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Nov 13 2015, 06:27 PM)
the frame is made out of plywood panel ma biggrin.gif

anyway, if its used over long unsupported lengths (like over 3feet etc), block board maybe the proper application since its comprises of short pieces of low grade solid wood blocks
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The weird thing is they took it back, lay it on its back and it straighten out by itself. It could be the hinges. Maybe not enough for a heavy door. Needs two at the top. Anyway they also scratching their heads.

Anyway lesson learned - now my wardrobe no doors no carcass 😁

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post Nov 13 2015, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Nov 13 2015, 06:35 PM)
The weird thing is they took it back, lay it on its back and it straighten out by itself. It could be the hinges. Maybe not enough for a heavy door. Needs two at the top. Anyway they also scratching their heads.

Anyway lesson learned - now my wardrobe no doors no carcass 😁
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haha no wonder.. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Nov 13 2015, 06:37 PM)
haha no wonder..  biggrin.gif

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