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IKEA Kitchen Cabinet, Suggestion and Comments
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ar188
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Oct 19 2015, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(yee0810 @ Oct 19 2015, 01:29 PM) Hi, I am planning to have my wet kitchen done by IKEA. With quartz worktop from outside though. As for my dry kitchen, I have engaged Signature kitchen. Reason being I like the rustic series from SK but I wanted a longer warranty with the wet kitchen. Save a bit too can you check what material SK uses for their carcass and thickness? block board? chipboard? mdf? 3 layer plywood? 5layer marine ply? that will tell u if the frame really can tahan or not especially when kena wet/damp issues.
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ar188
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Oct 22 2015, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE(peri peri @ Oct 21 2015, 10:17 PM) my house "free kitchen cabinet" from developer since year 2005 still look new until today. I believe last time cabinet are built from solid material. but nowaday all cutting cost, a lot things scrutinized. Same like we built house, where got using clay brick but still selling u premium price. think about it. can still get the cabinet frames built in solid plywood if you know who to look for... but most people choose mdf or chipboard already.. due to cheaper cost.
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ar188
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Oct 22 2015, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE(triad @ Oct 22 2015, 11:54 AM) Ya all ikea stuff is mdf..dunno how they can last 25 years maybe good also.. if all out of shape after 10years maybe can claim waranty for new cabinets?
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ar188
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Oct 22 2015, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE(triad @ Oct 22 2015, 01:33 PM) Well, i think, ikea on medium, high end like Signature kitchen ikea in the middle the rest below ikea. http://www.thekitchn.com/faiths-kitchen-re...ths-budg-184072can you check if SK is using what material for the internal carcass and drawer boxes.. that will determine its actually made out of high end material or not.. other things like hardware.. well can just buy high range Blum or hafele (not the their rm1-2 hinge) and screw on to become more high class. if proper high end kitchen is using solid hardwood plywood to make.
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ar188
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Oct 22 2015, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Oct 22 2015, 02:03 PM) SK using water resistance chipboard for carcass Doors - depends but mostly MDF I know of no one using solid hard plywood like in your picture. When they say plywood - inside hollow wan. Two thin pieces of plywood sandwiched together with some bits and pieces of wood in the middle only u mean like this?
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ar188
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Oct 22 2015, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Oct 22 2015, 02:11 PM)  like this?
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ar188
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Oct 22 2015, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Oct 22 2015, 02:20 PM) cant find the pic wan. malaysians do things, other countries no do liddat. first they make a frame. then the two sandwich ply go ask ask ask, pretend to want to buy then you will know wow.. thats a good low cost way..  if only they quoted very low price too to end customer.
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ar188
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Oct 23 2015, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(itekderp @ Oct 23 2015, 11:03 AM) My contractor using solid wood for cabinets. The old fashioned style. thats really old school.. should be well built and strong too.
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ar188
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Oct 23 2015, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE(itekderp @ Oct 23 2015, 02:00 PM) The hafele rm2 hinge fake one is it? I saw at the shop, very amused to the cabinet contractor suppliers. i think it's below rm1.. i dunno how cheap ori ones supposed to be... so who knows.. maybe ori low end really that cheap.. not sure also
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ar188
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Nov 13 2015, 01:57 AM
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QUOTE(PJusa @ Nov 12 2015, 10:57 AM) honestly i think in malaysia when it comes to kitchen the best bang for your buck is hands down ikea. it simply lasts longer, with next to no faults than any other product in the same price range and even higher than ikea. of course a blockboard might be more solid - i doubt the same would be true for plywood. the ones i saw tend to suffer from swelling or peeling. but then again that might have been the normal sucky quality contractors like to supply. there is no way ikea carcass material can beat plywood le. blockboard is already below plywood in strength so u can imagine where that ikea carcass material stand in terms of durability. there is a reason why people dont make houses using mdf in any area...but still use plywood in some areas of construction.
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ar188
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Nov 13 2015, 08:54 AM
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QUOTE(PJusa @ Nov 13 2015, 07:42 AM) sorry my idea of blockwood was different - i considered it as solid wood. but i stand by what i can see with my own eyes. the plywood used in many of my friends kitchen is of lousy quality. the sheets get wobbly or even get loose all together. that is not the case with the ikea kitchen (maybe they simply better moisture seal i dont know). many real life examples where you can easily see that they last long even in malaysia. you absolutely get the best bang for your buck with ikea kitchens in malaysia. feel free to convince me otherwise. my current kitchen is 8 yrs old and looks like new. no trace of warping, water damage or anything else. its in 99% new condition left a few scratches from a knife slipped here and there. i even have a 5 laundry room fitted with ikea kitchen and its totally @ 100% - though that place is much more moist. so i would always choose ikea again. and btw a kitchen is certainly not a house so i would not want to consider MDF for kitchen contruction for a house construction. demand pattern is so entirely different. that doesnt mean its very suitable for what its used for. there is a reason why its in use (and no, its not just price - otherwise how to stick the warranty to it?). make your own conclusions as you may. as i have not seen how badly done those plywood kitchen cabinets you mentioned. perhaps its down to workmanship but material wise at board level there is no arguement which is strongest and most durable. This post has been edited by ar188: Nov 13 2015, 08:55 AM
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ar188
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Nov 13 2015, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Nov 13 2015, 01:32 PM) my wardrobe made using plywood and wood veneer - the doors all warped within a few months of installing. carpenters was kind enough to replace all the doors - not cheap ok as the wood veneer used that time was black ebony and they have to change all 16 doors because must match the grain pattern. in the end, few months later it warped again. How bad? Bad enough that that the door cant close nicely. They cant figure out why. I think they either didnt use enough hinges. Some manufacturers I see them using a piece of metal at the back of the door to prevent it from warping. must be using reject grade plywood materials lol. yes there are those types used for those who just want to use plywood to board up a construction area from plain sight.. thats like dirt cheap plys.. maybe rm30-40 for 4x8 feet panel 6-9mm
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ar188
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Nov 13 2015, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Nov 13 2015, 06:16 PM) I don't think it's the panel itself that warps but the frame work the frame is made out of plywood panel ma  anyway, if its used over long unsupported lengths (like over 3feet etc), block board maybe the proper application since its comprises of short pieces of low grade solid wood blocks This post has been edited by ar188: Nov 13 2015, 06:29 PM
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ar188
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Nov 13 2015, 06:37 PM
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Nov 13 2015, 06:35 PM) The weird thing is they took it back, lay it on its back and it straighten out by itself. It could be the hinges. Maybe not enough for a heavy door. Needs two at the top. Anyway they also scratching their heads. Anyway lesson learned - now my wardrobe no doors no carcass 😁 haha no wonder.. open system
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