No offence, but have you guys read the esreality mouse benchmark ? That imo is the first article anyone should read before going out to buy a new mouse with your hard earned money.

Esreality Link

That link , and probably dansdata.com are the ONLY websites on the internet that knows their stuff. Point is, you should stop reading a review when the reviewer says 2000dpi copperhead is more accurate than a 400dpi mouse.

For those lazy people who cant be bothered to read reviews, heres a breakdown (strictly my opinion only )
If you like G5 shape , get the MX518.
If you like copperhead shape, get the diamondback or krait.
If you like DeathAdder shape, get the IE 3.0.
All other classification , buy the logitech G1.

Yes we've all seen the benchmark before
Someone posted it before...

This post has been edited by Chronolisme: Apr 29 2007, 11:40 AM

not only once... not only twice... but tons of it..

It doesn't really benchmark the true 'performance' of those mouses, every mouse has different strength in its realm, no mouse is made perfect for every type of usage. You won't want to buy a copperhead just to do some word processing work right? And yet apparently the parameters used in the benchmark is not well defined, no one knows if these are really the factors that determine the performance of the mouse.

i think the esreality benchmark is a piece of crap. i have no problems on my tracking and i find my CH performed better compared to a 800dpi optical mouse.

the only problem is the f@*^% double clicking issue. hmmm...and deathadder isn't without its issues. lol...razer oh razer...maybe i will only purchase their mouse pad next time. the other products...



OOT: hmm...but i don't like wireless mouse. G5 is next best thing. who knows where can i buy? it's like every shop is clearing out old stocks before 2006 G5 goes end of production.

This post has been edited by SpikeTwo: Apr 29 2007, 02:03 PM

yes, that esreality comparison is a piece of crap.

it doesnt take into account human interaction.
ie. how the mouse feels in your hand etc.

DA, G5, G7 (insert whatever right handed shape) might be a good mouse, but the fact remains is it is not suited to my style of play.

hahaha...anyone who encoutnered the double cliking bug tried to update the firmware? or at least reinstalls it?

the funny thing is that, when i just finished downloading the latest driver and firmware, wanted to remove the old driver from control panel, suddenly the mouse when normal. then i decided not to remove first and see how. but the problem has been like a month.

will update you guys soon.

the mouse is alive and is fearing now

anyone read this post yet?
http://razerblueprints.net/index.php?optio...99&topic=6143.0

thats why razer mouse has a glow on top.
its the heartbeat of a long lost soul living inside the mouse

now im gonna go stick my razer stickers everywhere, on my guitar, car etc

This post has been edited by Everdying: Apr 29 2007, 03:32 PM

Razer Death Adder user come in to register after abandoned Krait ...

god it's just so comfortable ...

mine is random cases lol
sometimes the problem exists but sometimes disappeared...lolz

hmm....why dont he just turn of the lights and tell his mom that it is gone?
kinda funny lol

we need to dip the razer logo/product into holy water for 7 days 7 nights then the satan will be gone. i did that!

ok, i can't really emulate the doubleclicking re-appear as frequently as before. hmm...maybe it got scared. damn satan inside my mouse.
maybe i will just delete the drivers and install a new one see if it ever happens again.

still, no more razer mice for me until they improve their qc.

This post has been edited by SpikeTwo: Apr 29 2007, 06:40 PM

i lol'd!!!!!!!

You know you wanna do it as well

Edit:-

Reading the previous posts ontop of the page,I would like to say : ppl,srsly,don't go to extremes.

You shouldn't take the review as a final verdict,which is one extreme,but you shouldn't also be calling it a piece of crap,the other extreme.

Honestly,have you even READ the thing entirely and comprehended it?He does go into pretty lengthy details explaining where his emphasis in benchmarking is as well as the means in which he accomplishes them.

For those of you who have used the very first generations of optical mice,you would notice that it buckles pretty easily,or "spin" as some of us knows it.This has always been a problem for low sensitivity gamers.And most pro gamers are low sensitivity gamers.

His concept of "perfect control" and "malfunction speed" is perfectly normal and has been there like forever,maybe in different terms.As I said,if you've used those crappy first gen optical mice,you'll relate real easily

Do notice,he's talking purely on the "performance" of the mice.Let's do an anology with cars.In a pure "performance" test,the easiest way would be to run the cars from 0-100km/h and get the timing and rank them accordingly.But does that mean you buy a car just because it accelerates like mad?Don't u consider other factors such as comfort,reliability,handling,appearance etc? Still you don't go bashing the test,since they stated it was a performance test.

And more importantly,look at your own circumstance.The test might not even be relevant to most of you.It's as simple as this.In one second, (not one motion,you might be doin multiple motions) do you ever move your mouse a distance of more than 80cm? (that's 2 and a half swipes across an eXactMat) If you NEVER do so,your Copperhead will NEVER spin or lose control.Simple as that.You can now look at the other factors and it is indeed an awesome mouse.

Personally,I've been going more and more in the direction of low sensitivity,so I would most likely be switching over to DeathAdder (plus I like the ergonomic thing)

This post has been edited by ellimist: Apr 29 2007, 09:53 PM

so help needed....
after i update my mouse firmware to 6.19 my razer logo LED no blink anymore. why???!?!?!

I thought it's impossible to disable the light effect for copperhead currently? Perhaps your LED just died

i just update the firmware only oh...
the side light still got, only the logo LED gone.
can it go claim warranty one?

you need to update your driver FIRST...before updating the firmware. it is stated clearly in the knowledge base. but i think it is not that easy for new people to find.
edit/disclaimer: but i'm not sure whether your problem relates to this.


and,
ellimist: no offense. i call it crap because the tests aren't practical. and we dont need those information, plus, the author said:

real benchmark? what for? like you said, who's gonna use their mice to that extend? ok, so if he made it, and every manufacturer produce high performance mice which aren't practical and cost a bomb...the result will still be crap.

This post has been edited by SpikeTwo: Apr 29 2007, 11:03 PM

No offense taken,I didn't write the article after all

As to your question of who uses their mice as such,the answer is pro gamers.Especially those of death match games like Quake mods. Pro gamers go above 1m/s and in extreme cases up to 2m/s or so. (there's actually a video of a guy doin practice runs with real low sensitivity somewhere in the article)

I was saying casual gamers (most of us here,I assume) don't use it to that extent.So ppl who don't use such extreme low sensitivity while gaming/ move that much per second can just disregard most of the article.Still,it's pretty interesting to know.

Of course,practicallity and other issue counts.He does take does into account here and there and mention the stuff.For example,although krait and diamondback have similar results,he ranked the diamondback above since it has more buttons,for one (just an example,he does mention the overall feel and what nots of the mouse if you read carefully)

All in all,I'm saying this article is not tailored towards the casual users.But in contrary to the popular belief here,the article does have it's practicallity as well as purpose.

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Added on April 30, 2007, 12:22 pmOh btw z3r0717,sry for bugging you but I need updates again

Switched over to Death Adder (I'm no.114 on the list)

Still havent sold of my Copperhead though

This post has been edited by ellimist: Apr 30 2007, 12:23 PM

do you feel any difference from CH to DA?

I haven't tested either particularly extensively (in terms of low sensitivity) so can't really tell in that department.But so far so good,Death Adder is real smooth

One thing I have noted however,is that lift off distance is lower,as claimed.In case some don't understand,lift off distance is the distance you need to lift the mouse before it stops tracking (yes this is a good thing,the whole idea of lifting is to stop tracking anyways)

On my eXactMat,tracking stopped with a 2 cd stack.with 1 cd underneath it (roughly 1.2mm according to *cough* ESReality),it still tracks (supposedly other mouse surfaces,those SteelPads and what nots allow you to stop tracking even with a single cd underneath) The Copperhead on the other hand still tracked partially even with 3cds stacked underneath it.

Oh btw,I think the placement of the 2 side buttons for the Death Adder is slightly better.Both are relatively easier to reach as opposed to the Copperhead (IMO) And I don't particularly miss the other 2 buttons on the right side of the Copperhead,since it's pretty hard to reach in game.

Another thing to note about the Death Adder buttonsis that the top 2 buttons are easy to press,while the 2 side buttons will require slightly extra force to avoid it being mispressed,which is good.

Overall,I love the mouse so far.Will update,if anything,after tonight's LAN party

(If there's one thing I miss bout the Copperhead so far,it's the 2 light tubes on the side.It provides a nice grip and feel imo,plus it looks pretty at night XD No big deal really,the Death Adder is really nice to hold in its own way)

This post has been edited by ellimist: Apr 30 2007, 01:47 PM