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post Dec 23 2015, 04:15 PM

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holy hell, that is one nice car wobbles. congrats
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post Dec 23 2015, 07:28 PM

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Amended so as not to cause offence to certain sensitive parties.

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post Dec 23 2015, 07:29 PM

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Amended so as not to cause offence to certain sensitive parties.

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post Dec 23 2015, 07:56 PM

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What this post has become? I expect to read something related to the topic but instead it becomes personal showroom.

Pls open a BMW showroom thread in the car club lar.
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post Dec 23 2015, 08:08 PM

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Thanks for the tip. I'll amend the posts as you've suggested
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post Dec 23 2015, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(wobbles @ Dec 23 2015, 10:26 AM)
oh, you live in Singapore too? What do you do here? Wasn't sure because you said you were "central" - do you work for Shell?
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nope i dont work for shell...

i stay near the city center....
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post Dec 24 2015, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(wobbles @ Dec 23 2015, 08:08 PM)
Thanks for the tip. I'll amend the posts as you've suggested
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Yes thank you. It does irk some people with your postings and photos of your posh BMW collections.

While it will be much appreciated in BMW threads with current BMW owners, but in this thread, its about someone whom is eager to own one and yet he is not as wealthy as you. An average Joe eager to own their own BMW.
If you ask me whether I can afford that 7 series, the straight answer would be -
Until the day I grow old, have grandchildren and die, I wouldn't be able to live to afford one.

While you are living a lavish and happy life down under in greener grass side of Singapore, think of those whom are above Singapore, the darker side. Probably you can't feel it cause you already achieved your target.

If you watched before movies like Upside Down and Elysium,both movies of which has their similarities;
The rich is on the top, while the poor is down under - Forgotten and ignored.
We Malaysians are akin the forgotten ones in down under, and Singapore is on top of us.
Struggling to survive and hoping for brighter future.

We are now akin like the Panem citizens eager and putting hopes to bring down The Capitol and President Snow.

Oh BTW, yes, I have a big chip on my shoulder. I am hoping I can remove that 'chip' myself but I can't remove it myself.
Sorry if that earlier message sounded like it was directed to you, but actually it wasn't.
I have been observing how you respond to the post in a humble manner, but the photos of your spanking new 7 series do spark some unwanted attention. Including me.

Anyhow, Merry Christmas to you.

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post Dec 24 2015, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Dec 24 2015, 02:04 PM)
Yes thank you. It does irk some people with your postings and photos of your posh BMW collections.

While it will be much appreciated in BMW threads with current BMW owners, but in this thread, its about someone whom is eager to own one and yet he is not as wealthy as you. An average Joe eager to own their own BMW.
If you ask me whether I can afford that 7 series, the straight answer would be -
Until the day I grow old, have grandchildren and die, I wouldn't be able to live to afford one.

While you are living a lavish and happy life down under in greener grass side of Singapore, think of those whom are above Singapore, the darker side. Probably you can't feel it cause you already achieved your target.

If you watched before movies like Upside Down and Elysium,both movies of which has their similarities;
The rich is on the top, while the poor is down under - Forgotten and ignored.
We Malaysians are akin the forgotten ones in down under, and Singapore is on top of us.
Struggling to survive and hoping for brighter future. 

We are now akin like the Panem citizens eager and putting hopes to bring down The Capitol and President Snow.

Oh BTW, yes, I have a big chip on my shoulder. I am hoping I can remove that 'chip' myself but I can't remove it myself.
Sorry if that earlier message sounded like it was directed to you, but actually it wasn't.
I have been observing how you respond to the post in a humble manner, but the photos of your spanking new 7 series do spark some unwanted attention. Including me.

Anyhow, Merry Christmas to you.
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I appreciate your frankness and your candor. As you can see by the way in which I responded to the criticisms (irrespective of whether warranted or otherwise), my intention was never to cause any happiness in others. It was, as I have mentioned since day one, only to share my joy but also to put my money where my mouth is – too many times on the forum you read about this that or the other (e.g. 20k/month salary) but at the end of the day, it's all hot air and quite a lot of bluster and not quite enough substance to put it politely.

If showing my source (or in forum vernacular, the drillz) caused any offense, I apologize - that was never my aim and certainly not the way I intended to participate in the forum. However, unlike what you might think, I'm not some Singaporean who's here to gloat about the failed discriminatory/racist/ketuanan policies or the blatant corruption/songlap culture/political largesse/cronyism & nepotism that has left Malaysia languishing far behind its southern neighbor some 50 years post separation.

I was also one of the same frustrated, fed up and disgusted people you mentioned - but unlike you, I decided to do something about my situation - while I can never hope to change the political structure because of the entrenched racism, corruption and system of patronage, and while I can never hope to see Malaysia place the best & brightest in positions of influence (choosing ethnic affiliation over educational qualifications), I certainly did something - the only thing - I could: I removed myself from the situation and my decision has allowed me to flourish in a country that valued substance over form and prioritized quality over color.

I now run businesses in 3 countries, and yes, I certainly own the cars which I purport to own, but in the spirit of the forum's sensitivities and the personal feelings of its members, I shall refrain from posting pictures or making comments about my car collection. I hope this is a satisfactory resolution, and perhaps in a small way, also suggest that people should do something positive about their situation instead of merely moping about, carrying that chip on one's shoulder, and feeling unhappy about another person's earned & deserved success.

Peace and a merry Christmas to you and your family too.
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post Dec 25 2015, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(wobbles @ Dec 24 2015, 06:30 PM)
I appreciate your frankness and your candor. As you can see by the way in which I responded to the criticisms (irrespective of whether warranted or otherwise), my intention was never to cause any happiness in others.  It was, as I have mentioned since day one, only to share my joy but also to put my money where my mouth is – too many times on the forum you read about this that or the other (e.g. 20k/month salary) but at the end of the day, it's all hot air and quite a lot of bluster and not quite enough substance to put it politely.

If showing my source (or in forum vernacular, the drillz) caused any offense, I apologize - that was never my aim and certainly not the way I intended to participate in the forum. However, unlike what you might think, I'm not some Singaporean who's here to gloat about the failed discriminatory/racist/ketuanan policies or the blatant corruption/songlap culture/political largesse/cronyism & nepotism that has left Malaysia languishing far behind its southern neighbor some 50 years post separation.

I was also one of the same frustrated, fed up and disgusted people you mentioned - but unlike you, I decided to do something about my situation - while I can never hope to change the political structure because of the entrenched racism, corruption and system of patronage, and while I can never hope to see Malaysia place the best & brightest in positions of influence (choosing ethnic affiliation over educational qualifications), I certainly did something - the only thing - I could: I removed myself from the situation and my decision has allowed me to flourish in a country that valued substance over form and prioritized quality over color.

I now run businesses in 3 countries, and yes, I certainly own the cars which I purport to own, but in the spirit of the forum's sensitivities and the personal feelings of its members, I shall refrain from posting pictures or making comments about my car collection. I hope this is a satisfactory resolution, and perhaps in a small way, also suggest that people should do something positive about their situation instead of merely moping about, carrying that chip on one's shoulder, and feeling unhappy about another person's earned & deserved success.

Peace and a merry Christmas to you and your family too.
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I actually enjoy watching you share what you have, but yes it is a little off topic, might I suggest you open a new topic so we could actually see more of your bimmers?

Cheers and merry christmas
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post Dec 25 2015, 12:57 AM

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vios the dugong face is a good car... regretted of selling it last time... my advise put aside for future family planning first and maintain the lovely vios.


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post Dec 31 2015, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(myrancid @ Dec 14 2015, 11:32 PM)
Yo,

This is my salary a month, and I proudly owned Honda Jazz!

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Bro..i got few friends salary like you (Oil & Gas industry). They also drive normal car like myvi and old perdana. They don't need luxury car since their life is not always move on the road like us. So having a nice car is like wasting...
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post Jan 10 2016, 07:51 PM

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Hi Guys,

Recently I found a very good bargain used car due to bad economy. Hehe..

Used 2012 E90 325i @ RM100k vs Used 2012 Audi A4 @ RM100k

What do you guys think of these 2? Which one should I put my chip into?
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post Jan 10 2016, 10:39 PM

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325i uses a detuned but still super peachy butter & cream smooth inline 6 N52B25 engine - I'm not sure what engine the A4 is using. If it's a turbocharged one, then the engines are very different.

I'll give you a comparison between a NA inline 6 vs a turbocharged one - I wrote this review when I was still driving the old F02 730Li which has the full fat version of the venerable N52 engine, in N52B30 form. This was contrasted against my then newly acquired F13 640i which had the Twin scroll turbo N55 engine:

F02 730Li N52B30
The car starts up with a purr, and keeps purring away the whole time. Hardly ANY vibration is felt from the engine at idle - and even less is felt at speed, so anyone looking for a quick orgasm will be sorely disappointed. What you will get however, is a creamy smooth, almost whisper quiet, delivery of linear acceleration, devoid of any tension or drama whatsoever, whenever the right pedal is depressed.

The "kick" if I may call it, comes when you glance down at the speedometer (sorry, my F02 doesn't have HUD) and recoil in a mix of genuine fright and sinful surprise at the position of the needle - 130km/h is breached easier than a Geylang Road street worker's aperture, and licence-killing speeds of 150km/h and above are easily recorded without so much as a hair out of place.

The N52B30 may not have the low end torque of its newer turbocharged siblings, but - I've said it before and I'll say it again - what it lacks in low end twist and raw hoof-stamping ponies, it more than makes up for the elegant, classy way that torque (all 300Nm) of it and horsepower (258hp) is delivered: smoothly, sweetly and packed in a strawberry-coloured pink ribbon.

F13 640i N55B30
Now this is a totally different kettle of fish altogether. If the 730Li N52B30 is the gentle flowing of a clear spring brook over a series of cascading pebbles – the 640i in N55B30 guise is the crashing of a thousand tonnes of water per minute over the edge of the Victoria Falls.

It barks to life and settles down to an angry idle. It dispenses with the pretence of courtesy and plants its Twinpower Turbo fan squarely in your face.

This engine pulls like a fcuking freight train in a hurry and a half. Forget about what possible turbo hissing sounds that may emanate from under the bonnet. You just worry about the rasping sounds of joy that may escape from your gullet as you stamp down on the accelerator and take off like Wiley E Coyote with a Chinese Firecracker shoved up his bottom.

This engine brings the HAMMER to "sledge", the BOMB to "atomic" and the girls to a wild college party orgy. Geesus, if ever there was a good reason to lose my licence, please let me lose it with my right foot mashed to the pedal of the F13, barrelling down the NSHW like there's no tomorrow.

At full throttle, the shove is visceral, the pure speed is guttural – almost violent, and the urgency in which the tachometer & speedometer needles climb up the scale is phenomenal.

It feels wicked fast. You know you're on your way to 130km/h, then 150km/h, but that's not the scary bit.

The scary bit is, despite knowing it's a multiple-demerit-point adventure, you still want the car to go faster. And it will. It doesn't feel like it's ever gonna run out of steam. You'd sooner run out of road, or out of testicular fortitude.

The N55 is brash, loud and rude. It barks like a Rottweiler and hisses like a Siamese. It's rough on idle, and unabashedly coarse when you floor it. Compared to the aristocratic, refined and cultured pedigree of the N52, the N55 is the nouveau riche clad in bling and speaking at the top of his voice in PuTongHua.

And, demerit points be damned, I can't help myself but love it.

This post has been edited by wobbles: Jan 10 2016, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE(monios @ Dec 31 2015, 12:39 PM)
Bro..i got few friends salary like you (Oil & Gas industry). They also drive normal car like myvi and old perdana. They don't need luxury car since their life is not always move on the road like us. So having a nice car is like wasting...
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Different people, different perspective...

Got a cousin already millionaire but still drive a japanese sedan... cars are not for everyone's...

For some, nothing more than a convenient tool...
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post Jan 11 2016, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(demetry @ Jan 11 2016, 08:59 AM)
somebody really taking forum seriously lol
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Ha. Ha. If you're referring to what I posted above, it's just my way of sharing something I wrote with the rest of the forum. As I'm sure you're aware, I have a passion for cars, and having owned/still the owner of multiple BMWs, I daresay I'm also quite well versed in and aware of the characteristics of said cars. What's the point of a forum if not for sharing our knowledge and passion? The way I see it, I rather contribute positively to an on-line community, especially since I'm not too keen to pass snide and acerbic remarks that zero value add and merely waste bandwidth, but I guess your mileage may vary.


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post Jan 11 2016, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(Darren @ Jan 11 2016, 09:12 AM)
Different people, different perspective...

Got a cousin already millionaire but still drive a japanese sedan... cars are not for everyone's...

For some, nothing more than a convenient tool...
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Agree wholeheartedly. Very important to buy what you're comfortable driving, and more importantly, to buy well within your means. As I've shared in this thread, my rule of thumb is never to buy a car that costs more than 10% of my annual income. Some members of the forums then came to attack me to say that was a stupid rule, and that it should be never to buy more than the sum of one's annual income etc etc. To each their own la.
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QUOTE(wobbles @ Jan 11 2016, 09:34 AM)
Ha. Ha. If you're referring to what I posted above, it's just my way of sharing something I wrote with the rest of the forum. As I'm sure you're aware, I have a passion for cars, and having owned/still the owner of multiple BMWs, I daresay I'm also quite well versed in and aware of the characteristics of said cars. What's the point of a forum if not for sharing our knowledge and passion? The way I see it, I rather contribute positively to an on-line community, especially since I'm not too keen to pass snide and acerbic remarks that zero value add and merely waste bandwidth, but I guess your mileage may vary.
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I want to say this, I enjoy reading all your posts, most of them are positive and contribute to this forum, whether I or other agree with you is another matter la. I think that is great. Keep it on rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(buffa @ Jan 11 2016, 10:56 AM)
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I want to say this, I enjoy reading all your posts, most of them are positive and contribute to this forum, whether I or other agree with you is another matter la. I think that is great. Keep it on rclxms.gif
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rclxms.gif thumbup.gif well said - I think that's the whole point. I'm NOT asking for everyone or anyone to agree with what I have to say, in fact, God forbid, that is NOT how a mature forum works. We all have ideas, we all have convictions and we all have certain precious truths we hold very dear, but if we never open our eyes and our hearts to what other people have to say, and agree to disagree, how can we ever improve on ourselves and our perception of the bigger, wider world?

At the end of the day, we can all agree to disagree, but the key is not to be negative and put another person down just so you can make yourself feel better about it. That's not what being online is about, but of course, your mileage can vary smile.gif
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QUOTE(wobbles @ Jan 11 2016, 09:34 AM)
Ha. Ha. If you're referring to what I posted above, it's just my way of sharing something I wrote with the rest of the forum. As I'm sure you're aware, I have a passion for cars, and having owned/still the owner of multiple BMWs, I daresay I'm also quite well versed in and aware of the characteristics of said cars. What's the point of a forum if not for sharing our knowledge and passion? The way I see it, I rather contribute positively to an on-line community, especially since I'm not too keen to pass snide and acerbic remarks that zero value add and merely waste bandwidth, but I guess your mileage may vary.
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