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post Nov 27 2006, 10:05 AM, updated 20y ago

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hey all, i going to get a plasma tv but can u guys recommend me which brands is the best and i'm looking for 40" which can support 1080p/1080i. i'm noob in this kind of thing so pls show me ur way.notworthy.gif

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post Nov 27 2006, 10:07 AM

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Wahlau eh....dreamy getting plasma....

Then you should get DOAX2 very soon, imagine the boobies in 40" HDTV glory... laugh.gif
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post Nov 27 2006, 10:09 AM

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Plasma sometimes suffer from burn-in like got this thingamajig burnt into the panel[for a period of time].

40" LCD support 1080p? Sony Bravia X 40" RM15,999 try to buy from tan boon ming old klang road, and tawar with the dudes there

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or there are other alternatives like BRAVIA V,S series

Pioneer 42" 7th Gen Plasma RM14,999 supports 1080p downscales to 720p

good luck smile.gif

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post Nov 27 2006, 10:12 AM

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I'm Using a Toshiba 47" Regza 47WL66E LCD (1920x1080) and my xbox360 looks freakin' amazing.....

Although it doesn't support 1080p, it still looks damn good.

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post Nov 27 2006, 10:13 AM

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hmm...so now the 40" is around RM10,000+? how bout cheaper tongue.gif 32" support 1080p/1080i how much?
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post Nov 27 2006, 10:53 AM

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dont think there is a 32" plasma, below 40" mostly are LCD TV, if u got the budget try to get the Samsung 32" LCD, it look very nice, abit regreted for buying Haier 32", should wait for samsung instead
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post Nov 27 2006, 11:02 AM

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yo dreamy biggrin.gif whassup

=<40' 1080p? i will go for Sony new X series and add a PS3 blu ray smile.gif

Plasma got that burn in some ppl say.

I' am now zooming the Samsung LCD 40" N71 biggrin.gif ..got about S$1500 gifts and vouchers tongue.gif

lucky didnt buy last week the Samsung S series 37", recd called from friend its Taiwan made panel sweat.gif

I heard Samsung and Sony get from the same panel but diff sofwe only.

good luck on yer quest for gaming nirvana.. smile.gif
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post Nov 27 2006, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(psp _BOY @ Nov 27 2006, 10:09 AM)

or there are other alternatives like BRAVIA V,S series

Pioneer 42" 7th Gen Plasma RM14,999 supports 1080p downscales to 720p

good luck smile.gif
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saw the Sony 29" V and S series side by side with same cable,distance, playing same DVD...

looks same only biggrin.gif ...thou the V got higher contrast but nice.

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post Nov 27 2006, 11:11 AM

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bro merdeka, Sony is too much for me la.

bzbody, the samsung is what model? 32" izzit? how much KL selling?
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post Nov 27 2006, 11:15 AM

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Latest gen Plasma's doesn't suffer burn-in as easily these days. When buying Plasmas check the panel res. Some plasmas still uses non-square size like 1024x768 or 1024x1080.

When it comes to color, especially black levels, LCD still cannot beat Plasma. Hehe.

Still waiting for BenQ 1080P displays to be released. Can see on the website but they're nowhere to be found. Should retails around 10k or less for 32".

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post Nov 27 2006, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(MK84 @ Nov 27 2006, 11:15 AM)
Latest gen Plasma's doesn't suffer burn-in as easily these days. When buying Plasmas check the panel res. Some plasmas still uses non-square size like 1024x768 or 1024x1080.

When it comes to color, especially black levels, LCD still cannot beat Plasma. Hehe.

Still waiting for BenQ 1080P displays to be released. Can see on the website but they're nowhere to be found. Should retails around 10k or less for 32".
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Plasma no burn-in issit?..I was into plasma 1st but the gaming burn-in thing make me swith to LCD...

MK84,
if this is true I'll be heading for Plasma back...

yes plasma black is still much better than LCD... biggrin.gif
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post Nov 27 2006, 11:35 AM

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It's not no burn-in. Just harder to get permanent burn-in. Compared to 2nd/3rd gen plasmas.

But be sure to run-in/break-in the plasma first when it's new. That helps a bit.

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post Nov 27 2006, 11:39 AM

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using pioneer 43"

supports up to 1080p..

its just amazing...
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post Nov 27 2006, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(MK84 @ Nov 27 2006, 11:35 AM)
It's not no burn-in. Just harder to get permanent burn-in. Compared to 2nd/3rd gen plasmas.

But be sure to run-in/break-in the plasma first when it's new. That helps a bit.
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I thought the current new plasma HD has the one touch function to clear burn in image?
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post Nov 27 2006, 11:44 AM

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guys really?...i am very interested ni...thanks.

any plasma user any problem with yer plasma?

if not much burn-in this is a PLUS-Mah!! for plasma TV LOL laugh.gif
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post Nov 27 2006, 11:45 AM

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That one just to make it easier to clear burn-in image. As opposed to playing something just to clear it. Some plasmas have built in software that shifts the images slightly from time to time to help prevent burn in.
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post Nov 27 2006, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(tailgunner @ Nov 27 2006, 11:11 AM)
bro merdeka, Sony is too much for me la.

bzbody, the samsung is what model? 32" izzit? how much KL selling?
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less than 5K, selling in most of the eletrical shop in KL
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post Nov 27 2006, 11:57 AM

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wheres my answer? icon_question.gif panasonic or samsung and what model only enoguh money for 32"/

EDIT: bzbody, thankyou very much. notworthy.gif

this one? Samsung LN-R328W 32" Widescreen HDTV-Ready Flat-Panel LCD TV

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post Nov 27 2006, 11:58 AM

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not really sure wat model but its having a game ready function, havent try it thou, beside LCD biggest prob while playing games, are the ghosing effect, yet when u get used to it, u wouldnt notice it any more
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post Nov 27 2006, 12:00 PM

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i'm now deciding on either SOny or Samsung...make me brain "SonSung" (sonsang) laugh.gif
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post Nov 27 2006, 12:04 PM

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Samsung 32" LA32R71B
selling around RM4998, if i still can recall the price, and that was last month price, dunno there are any difference from the current price as there are kinda having xmas sales right now

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post Nov 27 2006, 12:06 PM

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what's ur budget..

somebody offered me 6k last friday for a LG 50"

dunno whether still have or not
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post Nov 27 2006, 01:56 PM

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I will say LCD. Because plasma have this burn in issue because of static images. Maybe new plasma dont have this problem. Your choice then ..
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post Nov 27 2006, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(bzbody @ Nov 27 2006, 12:04 PM)
Samsung 32" LA32R71B
selling around RM4998, if i still can recall the price, and that was last month price, dunno there are any difference from the current price as there are kinda having xmas sales right now
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it's cheaper if u get from this guy:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=367653
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post Dec 1 2006, 10:43 AM

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i heard n read from the internet reveiw said that the sharp aquos is one of the best lcd tv.izit true? blink.gif
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post Dec 1 2006, 02:33 PM

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Yeah it's true. They have many awards.

And plasma is kinda reflective.
And what about this ghosting effect on LCD tv ? I dont see any problem with my LCD
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post Dec 5 2006, 09:27 AM

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Been looking at some HDTV and narrowed it down to the Samsung 40R71BX or the Philips 42PF7421. Can't afford the ones with 1080p out of my budget.

Was doing some comparison and found the following between the 2

1). In terms of input the Samsung has 1 HDMI and 2 components whereas the Philips has 2 HDMI and 1 component, both have VGA Connection. Not sure which is more beneficial. The idea is to have my Xbox360 upcoming Wii and PS3 to be connected.

2.) The Philips includes the bracket to hang on the wall and the Samsung is an additional cost. For those hanging on the wall do you have a problem putting the necessary peripherals once it hung on the wall?

3) The Samsung seems very bright and rich but blurry at times in terms of details compared to the Philips (is my eyes playing tricks). I asked the man to set the same brightness, contrast and sharpness to do a comparison and the Philips does seem more vibrant then but is that a fair comparsion?

4.) Samsung is 1:5000 contrast and Philips is 1:2000 contrast. Makes a difference?

5.) Asthetics wise Samsung wins hands down in sleekness and has the option to turn on game mode? Does this really make a difference.?

Price wise almost the same but Philips is giving the bracket and has an option of 4 year warranty, Samsung only 1 year warranty. That 4 year warranty worth it cause I can a lower price with a 1 year warranty for the Philips.

Leaning towards the Philips but the Samsung does look nice but no idea if the game mode in Samsung will make a difference. Both at 8ms.

Thanks for any advice biggrin.gif
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post Dec 5 2006, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(zaakath @ Dec 5 2006, 09:27 AM)
5.) Asthetics wise Samsung wins hands down in sleekness and has the option to turn on game mode? Does this really make a difference.?

Thanks for any advice  biggrin.gif
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Depending on manufacturer, game mode means it bypass the internal scaler. Less lag. Some call it Native mode.

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post Dec 5 2006, 11:42 AM

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Seems the game mode set for the Samsung makes it worst after sifting through the AVforums. Thanks for the input btw thumbup.gif
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post Dec 5 2006, 11:46 AM

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Hehehe AVSForum is a treasure trove when it comes to feedbacks.
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What, game mode make it worst ? I think i have read somewhere that game mode will reduce the lag.
And from what i understand game mode will off the scaling, so it will follow the resolution of the input, say if a game is played in 720p widescreen, then the resolution will be 1280x720. I think like that. Correct me if i'm wrong blush.gif
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Dec 5 2006, 01:40 PM)
What, game mode make it worst ? I think i have read somewhere that game mode will reduce the lag.
And from what i understand game mode will off the scaling, so it will follow the resolution of the input, say if a game is played in 720p widescreen, then the resolution will be 1280x720. I think like that. Correct me if i'm wrong  blush.gif
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From the AVS Forums those who purchase the R71 some of them have been complaining that with game mode, its looks darker and much better to play without the game mode.

I am inclining towards the Philips at this point as it seems richer in depth and doesn't look washout compared to the Samsung. I do wish it looks as sleek as the Samsung though.

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Looking to buy the new LCD TV on next January too to replace my old sony bravia...but saving it for the one that can support 1080p ... anyone knows any other brands beside Sony Bravia X as an option for pricing factors....

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QUOTE(silencer @ Dec 5 2006, 08:49 PM)
Looking to buy the new LCD TV on next January too to replace my old sony bravia...but saving it for the one that can support 1080p ... anyone knows any other brands beside Sony Bravia X as an option for pricing factors....
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which bravia u using la? which u say old? ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(prazole @ Dec 5 2006, 09:16 PM)
which bravia u using la? which u say old?  ohmy.gif
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the s series.....my wife have started complaining as i always monopolize the tv at living hall while she is stuck with the 1 in guess room..so i guess ..going to buy a new 1 which can last longerrrr and put it in my study room..for my own privacy...
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The Star In-Tech mentioned today that it's pointless to have 1080p with screens of less than 50inches. They wrote that you'll hardly notice the different between 1080i and 1080p. Is it true?

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post Dec 5 2006, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(silencer @ Dec 5 2006, 08:49 PM)
Looking to buy the new LCD TV on next January too to replace my old sony bravia...but saving it for the one that can support 1080p ... anyone knows any other brands beside Sony Bravia X as an option for pricing factors....
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Philips has a new one out that support 1080p cant remember the exact model and it was on display at Harvey's Norman going for 16k and was more or less or side by side with the Bravia X and impressed me more.

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QUOTE(Thrust @ Dec 5 2006, 09:38 PM)
The Star In-Tech mentioned today that it's pointless to have 1080p with screens of less than 50inches. They wrote that you'll hardly notice the different between 1080i and 1080p. Is it true?
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Correct me if Im wrong as I am n00bie in terms of LCD TV..but planning to add another console (I mean in the future..... that support 1080p)to pair with this TV...for its blueray capability for movies..heard that the pic will be scaled down to 480p if 1080p isnt supported..again..correct me if im wrong here..i guess..String is an expert in this matter as he is enjoying this feature already.....
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QUOTE(silencer @ Dec 5 2006, 09:51 PM)
Correct me if Im wrong as I am n00bie in terms of LCD TV..but planning to add another console (I mean in the future..... that support 1080p)to pair with this TV...for its blueray capability for movies..heard that the pic will be scaled down to 480p if 1080p isnt supported..again..correct me if im wrong here..i guess..String is an expert in this matter as he is enjoying this feature already.....
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Heres' the issue:


True enough, not many people will really care about this but it sure is a weird thing to happen. Nowadays the most common HDTV resolution employed is 720p, or 1280×720 pixels progressively rendered, but there used to be a time where the standards weren't so set in stone. PS3 owners with an HDTV from that era might end up with some strange resolutions.

As it turns out, when the Playstation 3 detects that an output source does not support 720p, it will scale back to 480p output instead, even if the television does support the far more desirable 1080i, or 1920×1080 interlaced, output format to which it could easily upscale. IGN performed some tests and found that this indeed happens:

We tested this development on older HDTV sets with games designed for 720p but not 1080i - Resistance: Fall of Man, NHL 2K7, Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07, and Need for Speed Carbon. Sure enough, the system downshifted all four titles to 480p rather than moving up to 1080i. This issue came up with either a digital HD video connection (using an HDMI cord) and an analog HD video connection (using component cables.)

Source: Playstatic

So in otherwards if you pick the new ones you should be okay with 1080i. I don't have the budget for 1080p, well I could but I think it suffice for me. Going to make my purchase on the Philips tomorrow smile.gif
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post Dec 5 2006, 10:18 PM

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My lcd has the game mode, and im not using it. And seriously, there's no lag at all. It only makes it less bright from what i can see when turning on the game mode

 

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