QUOTE(carloz28 @ Oct 28 2015, 09:33 AM)
The rumour of Chelsea potential candidate for new manager (if Mou is sacked) in the newspaper, said BR is one of candidate... Liverpool LYN Kop Talk - BELIEVE!, LIV 2 - 1 BOR
Liverpool LYN Kop Talk - BELIEVE!, LIV 2 - 1 BOR
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Oct 28 2015, 10:07 AM
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Oct 31 2015, 11:40 PM
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QUOTE(jacckl @ Oct 31 2015, 11:28 PM) you guys forget one thing, had lucas send off for 2nd bookable offence, the game will change completely. this gergen tactic is double edge sword The so called 2nd bookable offence was a soft one actually. Lucas did boss around the defensive midfield area. He is like rejuvenated player. Benteke was holding ball up very well, and team play was playing to his strength. Coutinho almost did nothing entire game, but pop up to score 2 wonderful goals outside from the box. The first one was at his weaker foot somemore, if switched to his favourite foot, chance might be long gone. You need players that have good instinct on goal. |
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Nov 1 2015, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(reehdus @ Nov 1 2015, 11:07 AM) The second goal came directly from long hoof by sakho to find benteke. Sakho has been a beast so far I must say. Really good marshaling by him and skrtel to control costa Hoof can work if you have Benteke to win the header each time and lay off second ball for teamate to shoot on goal. Don't need each time must tiki taka one. In fact 3rd goal also originated from hoof that Benteke win the header. Benteke is really good in header. |
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Nov 1 2015, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(reehdus @ Nov 1 2015, 11:53 AM) I see a lot of match reports saying we didn't outplay Chelsea and that they were just under par. That we deserved the win but couldnt break through and needed individual brilliance to score. We controlled the match for long portions and had double their shots and 57% possession away... Just about deserved actually.The under par was on the final third that lack of spark, especially in the first half. Second half, after Ben came in, play was much better generally. Overall the match, Liv was more and less in control. First goal, yes individual brilliant, but for 2nd and 3rd goals, it was a team play that create the goal scoring opportunity. Milner was having a bad game, and rightly being subbed by Klopp. |
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Nov 5 2015, 03:05 PM
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I do not think loan back Gerrard is a good idea.
The new manager mission now is to impose his idea and set for team for the future. Bringing back Gerrard at this moment could disrupt current development. Training, backroom staff, may be good, but not first team. |
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Nov 7 2015, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Nov 6 2015, 11:21 PM) So true. The simple and basic move of using Sakho and Lucas basically bring stability to the whole team. This is not rocket science at all, Sakho is good? Fucking play him. Lucas is our only natural DM? Fucking play him as DM. As simple as that. Balo was told to defend a corner.Basically make me wonder what the hell BR is doing all this while. Sterling was played as sole striker. Markovic was played as fullback. Gerrard was played as DM. |
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Nov 9 2015, 08:50 AM
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The legacy of poor defending by previous few years was so obvious from the both goals conceded which were because of slack in defending.
Final third is still the main problem why cannot win games even though dominated the matches in most part. The goals scored was indeed beautiful team play. Ibe lay off a superb throughpass to Clyne (that lead to the goal scored) after Klopp offering his glass during training. |
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Nov 9 2015, 09:08 AM
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I don't understand the logic of some fans leaving early.
The goal conceded was at 82 min, and still got 10+ mins to go, and just trailing 1-2, still got chance and hope to turn the match into a draw or win as well, (as it is not the like Liv played extremely bad and being dominated by opponent entirely), certainly not the like losing 0-3 against WH time. As if the logic applied, fans should leave at 3rd min when Chelsea scored last week. |
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Nov 9 2015, 11:10 AM
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Be more realistic, Klopp can't fix everything with barely 1 month tenure.
By seeing how the team played particularly at the final third and defence, there are plenty of works need to be done, before having any chance to challenge the top 4. Frankly speaking, I don't expect anything from this season. |
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Nov 9 2015, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(RedSiglap56 @ Nov 9 2015, 03:28 PM) Why does Klopp keep fielding Can? I hope it's not a case of their being Germans. He offers workrate and athleticism which is needed in high pressing game. Can has been making a lot of mistakes and a few goals we conceded this season can be traced back to him. He's not a bad player but he has not developed intelligence and awareness to a sufficient degree yet, thus he gets dispossessed often and make very poor passes too. What's worse is when he gets back to 'help' in defence..! Of course it's not fair to blame just one player for our defeat, but it was certainly his mistake that led to that first poor goal. With all due respect to a very good Palace team who pressed very well, ran very fast and was very intent to win, we could have at least avoided another home defeat! While the majority of Liverpool fans are still passionate, there are a minority (like at all clubs) of spectators who just want to watch their team win handsomely, all the time! I believe he can learn, mind that despite his look of maturity, he is only 21. Moreno also made similar mistake last year, but cut down a lot since after Klopp took over. I believe this kind of mistake can be cut down with proper defensive side of coaching. Whenever ball arrived in penalty box, you hoof it far far away, don't hold the ball or try to tiki taka. |
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Nov 9 2015, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Nov 9 2015, 08:17 PM) The hottest topic on most Liverpool forums/online discussions are the topic of "LFC fans" leaving 12minutes before the end (against crystal palace) May be those fans never turn up at all for the game previously, or already left at half time, so we didn't see they leave on the last 12 mins. Apparently, it does not happen under previous manager, some quoted. (I not certain of this). Who are these LFC fans?? Quite dumb right 😑 Fans pointing each other. I know some senior LYN Kopites also feel some Kopites here are disrespectful of certain past/previous managers, whom weren't up to mark. Still 12 minutes and these buggers walked away. It's really disheartening to know who these rent boys/plastic cup fans 😞 Didn't happen on previous manager? See how contrast the media is. 3 years tenure, media seldom has a go on the previous manager. Klopp, barely 1 month old, 1 narrow loss with ok performance, start all the gun blazing. |
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Nov 10 2015, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 10 2015, 11:08 AM) yea, well while Can is to be blamed for trying to tiki taka...if u look at the replay again...Sakho failed in preventing the cross coming in as it went in between his legs...straight to Can who was probably too shocked it went to him No one challenge the header... the 2nd goal, even if Sakho played and he was 7' tall he still wouldnt have gotten his head to the ball...that should have skrtel's zone...but of cos the blame went to Firmino for not being strong enough in the box. No point players positioning themselves in the box when none of players were leaping to win a header. May be Klopp needs to tell Firmino to defend a corner... |
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Nov 10 2015, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE(RedSiglap56 @ Nov 10 2015, 02:45 PM) The British media are very good at making mountains out of molehills, and at making superstars out of average British players who had one above average game. That's partly why British teams can never go very far in international competitions. Last summer already spent big... Klopp seemed to have hinted that he may not need to buy this January. I don't think he can avoid not buying now - both in defence and attack. Jan period generally is difficult window to get players one. |
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Nov 10 2015, 05:16 PM
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Klopp said he felt alone after 82 mins,
Media title - Klopp blamed fans for early exit. |
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Nov 10 2015, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE(bitebug @ Nov 10 2015, 05:16 PM) Can and Lucas were horrendous during the game. Can has the energy but just not the skills. He's really average. And Moreno boy, why is he even taking corners? Our fullbacks can't cross at all. No service for Benteke at all. They are 2 players that seems better fit to be XI, (despite being labelled as average), after more than 250 mil being spent over the 3 season. Now we're rumoured to be signing Pato another injury prone striker provably the most famous of them all? lol It sums up the root of problem of current squad, aka ability in term recruitment. |
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Nov 11 2015, 03:51 PM
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Pray hard nobody injure again...
Last international break, Ings and Gomez. |
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Nov 12 2015, 08:41 AM
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Nov 11 2015, 07:46 PM) The only part hindering his game is his speed. If he had above average acceleration he would be touted as one of the best English players currently in the game. As of right now he is all twist and turn but can't really make gap between himself and defenders, all flash no end product. Have to agree on this, based on "twist and turn", skill he is good, but often being crowded by opponent defenders already, may be lack of speed during dribbling.We seldom see he is clean through in front and sometimes, may hold the ball too long and chances gone. There is a problem for the team in the final third, in term of releasing or passing the ball that creating space to score. Cannot be always rely on super dummy move, and beautiful team play, individual brilliant to score a goal, you need some simple tap in as well or header. Over the couple of months, the team always rely on individual brilliant to score a goal, which is a big worry, this explains the reason lack of goals. |
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Nov 22 2015, 02:30 PM
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Same set of players that being labelled mediocre under previous manager by most fans, but performed magnificently under the new manager.
I bet many have not seen this kind of performance for year already. The 3rd goal was really superb, a real tiki taka move. Scored 4 goals without a recognised striker in the start XI. |
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Nov 22 2015, 03:04 PM
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QUOTE(YumeNoTaMeNi @ Nov 22 2015, 02:26 PM) United fan here, huge fan of Klopp, not a fan of BR but you forgot that your club played good stuff under BR too. Almost won the league. It was predominantly Suarez factor. Doesn't matter if is Suarez inspired or not, BR gave your club good times too iirc. Anyway, thanks for beating the noisy neighbors. Just like now J.Vardy with Leicester factor that makes the club top of league table. A sizzling hot form player can make a big influence to the entire team one, and makes teamates look good and even inspire teamates around him. |
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Nov 22 2015, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Nov 22 2015, 04:14 PM) Let's make this clear once n fear all. If BR is great, Ranieri even better, with way lesser transfer kitty as compared to Liv, no star play, and turned 1 mil signing (Vardy) to top striker and equal PL record, and top of table now.Yes we had a great season 'under' Wodgers .....BUT it's largely due to one man. And it ain't Wodgers. Attacking wise is entertain to watch that very similar to Liv's season that finished second one, most of time unable to keep clean sheet, but outscoring opponent to win. |
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