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 Liverpool LYN Kop Talk - BELIEVE!, LIV 2 - 1 BOR

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koolspyda
post Nov 9 2015, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(reehdus @ Nov 9 2015, 07:33 PM)
seems like European manager have a tendency to go zonal marking than man marking during set piece? Commentator commented so many times that the big guys were unmarked during corner
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Whattt, so what, matter of preference.

We had man marking before and defense was like whore house, and someone remarked LFC don't need defensive coach (you can't teach, of something along those lines)
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post Nov 9 2015, 08:17 PM

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The hottest topic on most Liverpool forums/online discussions are the topic of "LFC fans" leaving 12minutes before the end (against crystal palace)

Apparently, it does not happen under previous manager, some quoted. (I not certain of this). Who are these LFC fans?? Quite dumb right πŸ˜‘

Fans pointing each other.

I know some senior LYN Kopites also feel some Kopites here are disrespectful of certain past/previous managers, whom weren't up to mark.

Still 12 minutes and these buggers walked away. It's really disheartening to know who these rent boys/plastic cup fans 😞
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post Nov 9 2015, 08:31 PM

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BR fanbois really short term memory loss?
only just last month fans left early at one of BRs last few games.
those who think disrespectful are all hypocrites cos u just gotta say 'roy hodgson' and they go silent.
even carra can criticize souness and BR... so open market...
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post Nov 9 2015, 08:43 PM

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Sacked: Chelsea fan Clive O’Connell who branded Liverpool supporters 'Scouse scum'

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverp...onnell-10411657
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 9 2015, 08:31 PM)
BR fanbois really short term memory loss?
only just last month fans left early at one of BRs last few games.
those who think disrespectful are all hypocrites cos u just gotta say 'roy hodgson' and they go silent.
even carra can criticize souness and BR... so open market...
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Again. Why are we even discussing about this.

Did we ruffle their feathers because we call the ex-gaffer names and commenting sarcastically against previous managers?

FFS, this is a football forum man, not a freakin Jedi Council. doh.gif
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post Nov 9 2015, 09:46 PM

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Not sure this has been mention but Martin Kelly didnt celebrate after Bolasie scored (Edited)

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post Nov 9 2015, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Nov 9 2015, 08:17 PM)
The hottest topic on most Liverpool forums/online discussions are the topic of "LFC fans" leaving 12minutes before the end (against crystal palace)

Apparently, it does not happen under previous manager, some quoted. (I not certain of this). Who are these LFC fans?? Quite dumb right πŸ˜‘

Fans pointing each other.

I know some senior LYN Kopites also feel some Kopites here are disrespectful of certain past/previous managers, whom weren't up to mark.

Still 12 minutes and these buggers walked away. It's really disheartening to know who these rent boys/plastic cup fans 😞
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May be those fans never turn up at all for the game previously, or already left at half time, so we didn't see they leave on the last 12 mins. whistling.gif

Didn't happen on previous manager? shocking.gif

See how contrast the media is.
3 years tenure, media seldom has a go on the previous manager.

Klopp, barely 1 month old, 1 narrow loss with ok performance, start all the gun blazing.

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 9 2015, 10:54 PM)
May be those fans never turn up at all for the game previously, or already left at half time, so we didn't see they leave on the last 12 mins.  whistling.gif

Didn't happen on previous manager?  shocking.gif

See how contrast the media is.
3 years tenure, media seldom has a go on the previous manager.

Klopp, barely 1 month old, 1 narrow loss with ok performance, start all the gun blazing.
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Biasala tu...

If only Klopp gets a British citizenship and rename himself as George Cobblepots, maybe the xenophobic British media will remove the crosshair on his head.
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We lost but I'm not too disheartened and this is why - Liverpool had 16 shots in the box today, a tally which has only been bettered 5 times in the 120 PL games this season.

In the past we would not only have lost but we would have bent over and not even show up to try fighting back. The overall performance wasn't really that bad, we just didn't took our chances. As for our defence, we have always been weak against pacey wingers and this is something I hope Klopp can improve upon.
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Nov 10 2015, 12:39 AM)
We lost but I'm not too disheartened and this is why - Liverpool had 16 shots in the box today, a tally which has only been bettered 5 times in the 120 PL games this season.

In the past we would not only have lost but we would have bent over and not even show up to try fighting back. The overall performance wasn't really that bad, we just didn't took our chances. As for our defence, we have always been weak against pacey wingers and this is something I hope Klopp can improve upon.
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I found the finishing could've been a lot better...especially from lallana and benteke. Benteke's misses were like wth...especially that sweet cross from moreno right onto his head
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Nov 9 2015, 11:58 PM)
Biasala tu...

If only Klopp gets a British citizenship and rename himself as George Cobblepots, maybe the xenophobic British media will remove the crosshair on his head.
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Klopp does not wow with slick spoken English to the media, he does however tells it as it is. He does not want to make it bigger of an issue (about fans leaving). He saw, he said it, he doesn't want to offer an excuse the boys were tired after traveling the furthest corner in Russia and back and turned up with a galant fight with Cyrstal palace.


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Jurgen Klopp has called on his Liverpool players to learn from the feeling of defeat after his first loss as Reds boss.

A late Scott Dann winner condemned the Reds to a 2-1 reverse against Crystal Palace at Anfield, ending a 12-game unbeaten run for the club.

Afterwards, Klopp told his post-match press conference he had β€œfelt alone” after seeing a number of supporters heading for the exit after Dann's goal, but the German says it is up to his players to make sure fans stay until the end of each and every game.

β€œI am satisfied with some moments, but the problem is you have to play for the whole 95 minutes,” Klopp said. β€œIf you are satisfied with 60 minutes of the game then sometimes it is enough. But sometimes it is not, and today it was not. That's a problem.

β€œIt's not a problem to lose a game of football, of course. That happens all the time, but we have to learn the right things. If we learn from this defeat, then it will be a very important defeat."

Klopp added: β€œThe goal came after 82 minutes. Twelve minutes to go (eight plus stoppage time), and I saw many people leaving the stadium. I turn around and saw them go. I felt pretty alone at this moment!

β€œWe decide when it's over. Between 82 and 94 minutes, you can make eight goals if you want! But you have to work for it.

β€œThe big decisions are made in moments when you are tired and under stress, and we have to learn that.

β€œIt feels so bad, because it was absolutely not necessary. We have to feel this, keep this, and know why we don't want to feel this again.”

Asked if he had been disappointed to see fans heading for the door early, Klopp clarified his comments.

He said: β€œLook, I say what I think, please don't make it bigger than it is.

β€œI'm not disappointed. Maybe it's easier to leave the stadium with 10 minutes to play. There are reasons.

β€œBut we are responsible, we have to make sure that nobody can leave the stadium a minute before the last whistle, because anything can happen. That's what we have to show. Today, we didn't.

β€œI don't want to argue. Everything is ok, but we can do better. Tonight and in general.”


I hope those assheads (detractors) will shut up, first. Klopp came and is trying the level best to bring pride in our game. Fock, even if it means no tiki taka, atm, some wisely zonal marking over man to man.


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post Nov 10 2015, 06:15 AM

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QUOTE(reehdus @ Nov 10 2015, 12:55 AM)
I found the finishing could've been a lot better...especially from lallana and benteke. Benteke's misses were like wth...especially that sweet cross from moreno right onto his head
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For sure. But compare this to a few weeks ago when we were struggling to even create chances. Small steps are being made. #believe

In other good news, it has been confirmed that Sakho has not ruptured his ACL as feared earlier. He will undergo further scans to assess the damage. Currently estimated to be out for 6-8 weeks.

Ibe picked up a minor knee problem during the game too but this is a good news as he is now expected to not join up for England U21's international trip to Bosnia. Expected to be fit for the upcoming City game.

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The team have even shown flashes of character, a trait barely visible in the last few Rodgers sides despite the former manager's frequent references to the attribute.


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post Nov 10 2015, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Nov 9 2015, 03:54 PM)
after sakho went out, defense hancur..

sigh...
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with or without also defence not there.
not like sakho kept a clean sheet while he was on anyway.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 10 2015, 10:16 AM)
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with or without also defence not there.
not like sakho kept a clean sheet while he was on anyway.
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Can made the error.

Second goal we lost 2 headers.

Go figure.
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Nov 10 2015, 11:03 AM)
Can made the error.

Second goal we lost 2 headers.

Go figure.
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yea, well while Can is to be blamed for trying to tiki taka...if u look at the replay again...Sakho failed in preventing the cross coming in as it went in between his legs...straight to Can who was probably too shocked it went to him tongue.gif
the 2nd goal, even if Sakho played and he was 7' tall he still wouldnt have gotten his head to the ball...that should have skrtel's zone...but of cos the blame went to Firmino for not being strong enough in the box.

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 10 2015, 11:08 AM)
yea, well while Can is to be blamed for trying to tiki taka...if u look at the replay again...Sakho failed in preventing the cross coming in as it went in between his legs...straight to Can who was probably too shocked it went to him tongue.gif
the 2nd goal, even if Sakho played and he was 7' tall he still wouldnt have gotten his head to the ball...that should have skrtel's zone...but of cos the blame went to Firmino for not being strong enough in the box.
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I think Sakho has been pretty brilliant for us, albeit he still looks shaky on the ball.

Our defensive woes are still very very evidently there.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 10 2015, 11:08 AM)
yea, well while Can is to be blamed for trying to tiki taka...if u look at the replay again...Sakho failed in preventing the cross coming in as it went in between his legs...straight to Can who was probably too shocked it went to him tongue.gif
the 2nd goal, even if Sakho played and he was 7' tall he still wouldnt have gotten his head to the ball...that should have skrtel's zone...but of cos the blame went to Firmino for not being strong enough in the box.
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No one challenge the header... sweat.gif

No point players positioning themselves in the box when none of players were leaping to win a header.
May be Klopp needs to tell Firmino to defend a corner... tongue.gif
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looks like the media trying to spin klopp's statement about the fans leaving early thing
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post Nov 10 2015, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 10 2015, 11:41 AM)
No one challenge the header...  sweat.gif

No point players positioning themselves in the box when none of players were leaping to win a header.
May be Klopp needs to tell Firmino to defend a corner...  tongue.gif
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Actually Benteke leaped but as Klopp said, he jumped half a sec too early.

Timing is more critical than physical at this kind of situation.

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