Want to know anyone here using the Amyway Espring water filter, the latest one?

My situation like this: When my friend introduce me the espring water filter, he claimed that the filter can be use around 1 year or 5000 liter, whichever come first. but I start using on April 21th, on end of September already notify me need to change filter ( there is a indicator with light on top) And my friend took the filter and check with amway center, they said already reach 5000 liter!!!

Here is the calculation of my house water usage for this water filter (roughly calculate ya)

morning - fill up with 3 adult water bottle, each around 1 liter = 4 liter (to round up so i put 4 liter)
afternoon - normally no one at house coz go work already = 0
evening till night time - sometimes cook simple dinner, estimate usage to maximum = 10 liter

round up to 15 liter x 31 days = 465 liter per month
April to Sep 6 months = 6 x 465 liter = 2325 liter ONLY !!!

So how can the filter claimed I'd reach 5000 liter, despite my calculation has been round up and maximize!!
1 time change the filter cost me RM 500++! so 1 year I have to spend RM1000 + to change the stupid filter...

Please share with me if you all have this kind of experience. Thanks.

kena con,
this is marketing technique mah.

it depends on your usage, and the cleanliness of ur water la.
eg. did u install any external water filter (big gas tank)
if not ur water filter will die much faster.
oso ur pipe system, how many yrs dy, mayb inside already super dirty le.

this is msia, our water is like that 1 lol. dirty + dirty

Time to throw your filter away

You selling?

First of all, bukan Amyway, it's Amway kan? lol

i continue use only, i change every 2 or 3 years

u buy into their MLM scam and then cry about it?

get a panasonic filter hooked it up with a double ceramic normal filter which u can find in tescogot and also the conventional outside unit filter. get the job done just the same, maintenance very low. that UV thing is just a fad

Better install an outdoor filter as well, if not your E-spring will die very fast

ts amway salesman

my house use amway espring btw
from 1st model then trade in to this new model

This post has been edited by wimk: Oct 2 2015, 12:21 PM

Try this http://www.thewaterfilter.com.my/drinking-...kage/package-1/

cheap and convenient

BTW, AMWAY water filter is a scam. Ur friend already earn rm700 from the machine u bought. RM500 per filter, yeah, sounds like Amway.

Make complain with Amway.

I am using the same water filter...so far OK aja

Thanks for the advice.i install the outdoor filter as well... my filter all new but i know the m'sia water dirty like mud. so how to do kena con liao...

how much diamond paid you

Sorry wrongly type...

So did you back wash your outdoor filter often? Hows the water pressure of your house? If everything normal please consider throw your E-spring and change to others like Panasonic, Elken, Coway etc

ask your friend to buy it back with second hand price

Sorry wrongly type...

join mlm

cry scam

lol

sorry you asked for it

I did back wash 1 week once. water pressure around 2+ I'm thinking to ask him to buy back and change to panasonic liao,thanks a lot.

Dirty watah bengong

IF I PLUG THIS TO MY D, WILL I URINATE LESS?
PLANNING TO BUY FOR MY FREN WHO HAD KIDNEY FAILURE

better invest 1.2k for outdoor water filter tank. less worry and less maintenance while your house can enjoy filtered water from every single tap.

I never join any stupid mlm. I just seek for advice, if u don't really want to share ur opinion please keep quiet. Don't make me more angry!

ur house water condition kotor then must change filter faster lor..

Ya got the outdaoot water filter tank already. Thanks.

Ignore the warning light.

You can open the model on your own to check whether dirty or not.

Anyway, open then close will reset the timer/alarm

Someone in ur house, forgot to switch over.
They using the filtered water for washing plates and etc instead.

Always happen.

Else, ur friend sold u a used unit.
U can argue with amway, but their checking is quite accurate actually.

yeah u really need a pre filter for the filter.

Lel. Amway salesman will tell you a lot of thing to make you feel unsecure like dirty air, polluted water etc to make you buy their air purifier or water filter. And then you need to pay few hundred for maintenance on a regular basis. So no surprise on your case.

Kbye.

then your filter should not be dirty that fast to change. or it's a scheduled changed by amway? if it's then u have to follow their program else u can get a cheap one where u can just change by urself when u see the filter is dirty

The previos one, yes. Espring not anymore.
Auto countdown timer.
Unless u got a tool to reset it. Macam reset car meters tools.

I dun think this will work...if i am not mistaken, i remember the filter there got a chip as well...or else how the electricity pass through

This could be 1 also

I will do so next time, thanks.

Espring dun work this way my dear.

Ur filter got a pre filter. U can wash it.
If ur water is badass dirty, do a routine wash on prefilter inside it. Easily take out one.

BUT this will not reset the timer. NOR open close will.
Unless its the previous model. Can set on the machine itself.

And do not attempt to off electricity to stop timer, it wont work either. And it will spoil the chip faster. Trust me, i am a certified sinkalan espring user.

use this



cheap and easy

I see. thank a lot.

Dear sir,

Pls check if your cable is lose ? or the water pipe got leakage ?
Or your water pipe rubber quality not good (you use 3rd party water pipe)

so regret to buy the amway one...haiz...

no leaking,of course i'm using the amway water pipe.

theres nth wrong with amway filter la.

all u need to do is to change it frequently when its dirty.

n don't even buy pirated filter.
u know la outside market claimed a lot cheaper, Looks EXACTLY same filter, that 1 u will kena even more lol.

always seek for genuine filter.

Thanks for advice.

This 1 pretty good. Have been eyeing for long. Plan to get 1.

Agree...better install external for raw filter..then ur internal wont get worn so much.

From the time u decided to use amway products u have already been scammed . How do u think amway make so much money and to pay those salesman uplines and downlines?

lol amyway.got peterway?or johnsonway

of course they will claim, your mains dirty, your pressure low more dirt bla bla bla

don't need all these filter wan lah, just boil,

boil water cheaper

Amyway .................................................Noway

Cut contact wif him he not a fren u want. He sell u overpriced crap while spouting bull about health benefits n the other bull. He jes after ur commission. Olweis try shove tat overpriCED.crap 2 u.

amway conjob, using here by my landlord... always complain to me dont use filtered water when wanna boil drinking water... bodo 1 to kill germs 1 to filter solids, probably that's why he buy amway... to tipu org bodo je

i can vouch for panasonic.... best filter ever, value for $$$$

im using.. so far so good.. small save space

but recommend to place another dirt filter before going into this filter

mlm.. waste money on the tier

my wife use this for alkaline.. then still boil the water

Have to test the actual alkaline water value PH ?

test kit included in the package.. but i lazy test

No regret la.

Go compare the water side by side.
Drink it. Instant can feel the diff d.

Even the 2nd gen and 3rd gen (espring) can feel the diff.
Thats why i always fill up at home. Office one tak sedap.

The alkaline converter can last long right? Only replacement annually is the filter ?

Lol.
The filter already got built in uv lamp.
Can drink straight away la.

yes.. only the filter
http://www.panasonic.com/my/consumer/kitch...er/tk-as40.html

therefore i would recommend to place another cheapo filter before it.. cause panasonic filter more expensive.
there's replacement indicator for u to know

however, the filtration might be less effective than more expensive model

i use elken...they dnt count by liter...they call me once a year to follow up for filter change
and how does amway even know it reach 5000L???...hahahaha

straight from the tap even more sedap...all the nutrient is there

I not that crazy require high clean water. My main usage is the alkaline.

UV dont remove chlorine..

Inside got a tube with uv lamp.
The water goes thru sensor. Tats how they know how much litres used.

I cut open the filter in donut shape, put inside car to absorb smell.


If ur area water clean is ok la...
My area dirty like fuark.

Tu lah....guna Amyway, bukan Amway.

So it's connected to the internet via ethernet cable?

thats the nutrient

No no. The filter top there got electronic circuit.
Then wirelessly connect to top cover. When due, the top cover will display icon d.

WiFi
operator : saya sini nampak mesin kamu dah filter lebih dari 5000L

Oh, so I'm guessing the call centre calls at an estimated time frame and asks you for the reading.

I'm an unvoluntary user. (Not my purchase)

The filter element has a countdown timer. It also have a water volume measure. I can rant and rant how much this filter is a con case. I have simple question Amway will not be able to avoid.

If i buy new filter, use it for 1 day, then turn it off. Then 365 days later turn it on, and the filter requires to be replaced. So there is timer. It does not justify the UV lamp is not reliable, the bacteria already incubate or the filer deteriorated. In the end its just con case. When the filter is programmed to be replaced even before you hit 5000 litres it is already a con. Waiting to hack this stupid unit, so i will never ever need to pay RM500 for that cartiudge ever again.

then this model highly recommended

Is there a substantiated scientific explanation for the fixed time to change? If scientific evidence proves otherwise, you can claim a discount from them and even make a complaint to the National Consumer Complaints Centre.

No la... No call center going to call you.
The unit will beep. Till you replace it.

The 2nd gen can do this. Reset without replacing filter.
And too many people did not replace but just reset.
When the filter elements deteriorate, water quality is bad, they went to complain say unit faulty instead. Some even have their uv burnt, and dont know how they got their board fried.

Tats why now they use this new kind of filter.


I believe the system is hackable now, cos got people come and collect for "recycle" purposes.

Carbon filter removes chlorine.

Also, how long you boil the water?
Go check the Internet how long does it take to remove all the chlorine.

My in-law's place using this. Installed in Nov 2014. Changed the filter in Feb 2015, and then in end April 2015, machine beeping to ask for replace cartridge. Called MLM agent who sold this to check. Agent suspect faulty unit Removed entire unit, took it to HQ in PJ and plug in computer. Agent came back with printed report indicating have used 5000L. Replaced filter and was charged RM550 (plus service charge). Assumed problem was with our excessive usage. Changed usage pattern to minimal (similar like your case. Morning and night cooking only).

Been using it until 2 weeks ago, beeped for replace cartridge again. Another RM550.. sigh... Suspect something wrong with the filter and it is not producing accurate usage of 5000L. Agent claiming it can last more than 1 year is also not true. I have used 3 filters this year ady!


Looking to replace this filter with a more economical option.

u or ur family member might have forgot to switch off the drinking water valve... things like this happen... u know ur epsring valves come with 3 switchs right? i meant at the tap 1..

Does Malaysia use chloramine?

this case, u can direct complain to amway already!
ask them show u how to use 15k liter a year. show them your water bill also.
impossible our gomen water meter is weaker than espring meter.

complain that agent also.
burn his house beat his mother!

2015 still kena scam by amway marked up pre-brand taobao items

when u change ur filter, i mean the amway espring filter... is ur old filter dirty like shit... with mud..?

But they are certified and tested!!

by PHD Dr. from AMERICA!©

tukar cuckoo la

nowadays wanna use water also so susah ka.
auto timer or whatever its called mean when the usage reached the recommended liter then cannot use anymore until the ppl come and do a routine maintenance ?

you bought the filter from a fake company.

+1

anyway, im using BacFree filter....

show water bill also not good proof. Coz they can say that I took the machine to be used in some kopitiam or something. Proof of home water bill does not mean that the machine is there all the time... sigh...

complain agent also no use coz agent would say it the company's product is like that.. and the company can churn out printed report indicating date of installation and litres of water filtered... but how accurate is this reading... i have my doubts...

hm....true also.
then i abit lucky i no ran into such problems with the set i have.
touch wood!

ya... i agree, not to say it is wrong but it forces people to change filter often and this is a good source of income to them

heat till water boils will remove 99% of chlorine and 70% of chlorinemine... i stop at boil

to totally remove all 15-20mins of boiling required...

carbon filter of 3 layer at least is needed to remove it... so it depends on how effective your filters are

Lol.
99% is wrong.

wrong.

Hi Rachel,
I am using the same Espring as well. Bought in March this year.
Currently at 50% light..but my household only 2 persons. Not sure if the usage is that much la...didn't really count it.
But the sales also told me to change filter in 1 year or max 1 and half year. And the price is quite expensive at RM500++..

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15743631/

http://www.nus.sc.sg/healthsc/34925/

Bro this is definitely product defect ady la.. how can u still pay so much in a year!
If me I would have complained them to replace another unit instead of going so much hassle.
The Espring got warranty 1 right.

I got do record.

The light is based on Usage or Time. Whichever comes first.

mine usage also not much. but zhun zhun 3 months drop 1 bar.

Zhun zhun 1 year red light and start beeping.

so I just use 1 yr and 3 months then change once filter la.

U will be surprised how many dirt it has filtered.

3k to secure my family kidneys. I think is a very good investment. Just my 2cents

This post has been edited by kopiPeng: Oct 3 2015, 01:18 AM