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post Oct 16 2015, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(casio17 @ Oct 16 2015, 05:23 PM)
Oh okay. So, i3 4150 + gtx 960 should be good enough to max out dota2 right sifu? 100 FPS min when intense teamfight?
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Should be no issue to maintain at least 60 FPS, no guarantee on 100 FPS min though.

I have a old setup with i7 2600 + GTX970, the FPS drops to nearly 45 during intense teamfight on Reborn client, this was tested few months ago, maybe new patch fixed it but I haven't tried yet laugh.gif
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post Oct 17 2015, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(DesktopLimousine @ Oct 16 2015, 11:04 PM)
But, AMD has better intergrated gpu which is suitable for dota 2 and intel doesnt. He wants a smooth gaming for dota 2  while collecting money to get gpu soon, but not so soon. Maybe he will use this build like 4-6 months
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A4 5300 has HD7480D as iGPU which is almost equivalent to a HD5570 and Intel HD Graphics 530, so it is just slightly better than the iGPU in G3250 but decision is yours, you will need to change both CPU and mobo when you upgrade the rig later if you decide to switch back to mainstream Intel platform.

QUOTE(casio17 @ Oct 17 2015, 01:24 AM)
I think for reborn client should wait until it is out of beta right? so then the benchmark should be announced d? I thought GTX 960 can give  80++ FPS minimum when intense teamfight.  rclxub.gif
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Reborn is out of beta last month and is now the main client of Dota 2 so I think it should be fairly stable by now in terms of performance (not include gameplay bug).

You only need 60 FPS if you own a 60Hz monitor, so no point to aim for 80 or even 100+ FPS actually sweat.gif
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post Oct 17 2015, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(suXerz @ Oct 16 2015, 11:15 PM)
Hi all, hoping to treat myself for a new rig to replace my almost 10 year-old rig.
Consider me a noob coz I really don't know much about PC anymore.
I could say I was an avid RPG gamer, and I'm hoping to get into the 'mood' again, but I'm not sure if I still have the patience.

Thanks in advance!
[Budget] RM 4k-5k

[Purpose]
Gaming, entertainment, heavy browsing

[Hardwares that will be re-use] None

[Monitor resolution]
Erm.. no idea but anything best for my budget

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
Games (which I don't know yet), web browser, excel and... media player classic?

[Personal preferences]
Nice, big monitor, wireless keyboard & mouse.
Please include a recommendation for a good sound system - but nothing too crazy, 2.1 would be ok I guess.
I don't mind paying more for better quality hardwares - longer lasting and reliable - as long as the price is reasonable.

[Location] KL
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Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1349
Gigabyte H170 Gaming 3 - RM 589
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 279
GALAX GTX970 4GB GDDR5 EXOC Black - RM 1489
Samsung 650 Series 120GB SSD - RM 209
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
Seasonic S12II 620W - RM 299
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 159

Total: RM 4592 (Viewnet price inclusive of GST)

As for speaker and monitor, there are plenty of choices, you can try to visit Viewnet (Lowyat Plaza branch) and they have demo unit in the shelf so you can test it yourself, same goes to monitor.

My personal recommendation is,

Edifier M1360 2.1 Speaker - RM 105
Dell U2414H IPS - RM 1049
Acer XB240H 144Hz - RM 1149

The total cost is way over budget I know nod.gif , you can downgrade the CPU to i5 6500 to save RM 500 for monitor/speaker part, if you can accept the over budget then it's fine laugh.gif

If you want nice IPS display + thin bezel, you will fall in love with U2414H. If you are more on FPS, the acer monitor comes with 144Hz and you will have a much different gaming experience than normal 60Hz monitor, test it yourself there to know the difference thumbup.gif
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post Oct 17 2015, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(lee90 @ Oct 17 2015, 02:57 PM)
My laptop juz broke down.. sigh.. so i need a recommendation a my new pc including monitor

Budget: RM3k - 4k including monitor

Purpose: Browsing, work (nid a smooth pc to do my work e.g blogging, photo upload, web design etc), gaming like dota 2

Hardwares that will be re-use: my laptops harddisk (500gb sata3) still functioning but im not sure whether it can be placed in my new desktop pc

Personal preferences; i5 is enuff for me i think, at least 8gb ram

Location: /

Thanks in advance, if possible pls recommend me a rig with 3k budget and a rig with 4k,  notworthy.gif
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Yes old HDD (SATA) can be reuse.

Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 815
ASRock B150M-HDV D4 - RM 399
GSKill NT 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 249
Palit GTX960 2GB GDDR5 Reference OC - RM 899
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
Bitfenix NOVA - RM 149
BenQ GW2255 - RM 439

Total: RM 3149 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 885
ASRock B150M-HDV D4 - RM 399
GSKill NT 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 249
Palit GTX960 2GB GDDR5 Reference OC - RM 899
Samsung 650 Series 120GB SSD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
Bitfenix NOVA - RM 149
Dell S2415H IPS * - RM 849

Total: RM 3848 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)

* Please note that S2415H is glossy screen type, you can see your reflection on screen if you are under bright light source, switch to something like Dell U2414H (RM 1065) for matte screen type, or just go with lower end 24 inch monitor like BenQ GL2460 (RM 539) but it is using TN panel. You can google for IPS vs TN for more info.

You can add another 1TB HDD (RM 219) if you think your old 500GB is not sufficient.
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post Oct 17 2015, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(lee90 @ Oct 17 2015, 03:18 PM)
thanks bro but its 2.5" harddisk, reli can use ? nid any converter?
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No need, 2.5" and 3.5" both are using same SATA so it is totally fine.
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QUOTE(Eric.Hp @ Oct 17 2015, 06:35 PM)
Hey guys, planning to build a simple PC. Appreciate any help I can get smile.gif

[Budget]
- RM800-RM1000

[Purpose]
- Work and mild gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
- Power Supply: Cooler Master RS-460-PCAR-A3
- Graphic Card: PowerColor HD5770 1GB

[Monitor Resolution]
- Don't need monitor, just the desktop

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
- Dota 2, Diablo 3

[Personal preferences]
- Okay with both AMD and Intel as long its within budgey

[Location]
- Selangor

Thanks in advance!
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If you can reuse current case and HDD then go for this,

Intel Core i3 4170 - RM 486
Asus H81M-K - RM 229
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM - RM 220

Total: RM 935 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

If cannot then try this,

Intel Pentium G3250 - RM 228
Asus H81M-K - RM 229
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM - RM 220
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 139

Total: RM 1041 (Techview price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(f5calvin @ Oct 17 2015, 10:44 PM)
[Budget] 3k excluding monitor

[Purpose] Video n photo editing

[Hardwares that will be re-use] none

[Monitor resolution] -

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Premiere Pro, Photoshop

[Personal preferences] Intel + Nvidia + 250ssd

[Location] kl/selangor
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Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 859
MSI B150M Bazooka - RM 399
Kingston HyperX Fury 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 569
Gainward GT730 1GB GDDR5 - RM 228
Liteon S900 256GB SSD - RM 409
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
FSP Hexa+ 400W - RM 155
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 139

Total: RM 2983 (Techview price inclusive of GST)


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QUOTE(LordReaper @ Oct 18 2015, 01:21 PM)
Hi, planning to get a personal desktop since my laptop spoiled

[Budget] 2.5k everything including monitor and OS

[Purpose] mediocre gaming/movie

[Hardwares that will be re-use] none

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Dunno yet. but most probably able to run most of the latest game at 720p/900p resolution with medium  setting ?

[Personal preferences] Intel + Nvidia

[Location] Penang

It has been long since I use a desktop. Thank you.
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Going for Haswell (4th gen) build instead of Skylake (6th gen) due to budget issue.

Intel Core i3 4170 - RM 486
ASRock H81M-K - RM 229
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM - RM 220
Leadtek GTX750 2GB GDDR5 OC - RM 485
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 139
BenQ GW2255 - RM 380

Total: RM 2353 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

You left around RM 150 for OS, genuine retail/OEM license key is very expensive in retail shop (mostly start from RM 200 for a Windows 7 OEM key, up to RM 1099 for Windows 10 Pro Retail key) so you might need to look for cheaper genuine key in Garage Sales, but beware of counterfeit license key.
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QUOTE(f5calvin @ Oct 18 2015, 02:35 PM)
Is graphic card abit lower spec? and gt730 i thought GTX is desktop GT is laptop?
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You only need the CUDA cores for hardware acceleration in Premiere Pro, GT730 has 384 CUDA cores which is equivalent to what GT740 has at slightly cheaper price tag.

And due to your budget issue, I can only fit a low end GPU, unless you change the SSD to 128GB or RAM to 8GB to cover up the cost for GTX750/750Ti.

And low end nvidia desktop GPU starts with GT, mainly for x20, x30 and x40 series, GTX is for x50 and above, same goes to laptop section.

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QUOTE(LordReaper @ Oct 18 2015, 07:23 PM)
thank you.
what if i wan to upgrade to i5 or Skylake
how much more do i need to stretch?
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If stay at Haswell i5, you need ~RM 300 more.

If going for Skylake i5, then you need to save ~RM 650 more for new Skylake mobo + DDR4 RAM.

Edit: There is a mistake in the post, it is Asus H81M-K, not ASRock H81M-K doh.gif

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QUOTE(JustcallmeLarry @ Oct 19 2015, 03:53 AM)
Hi guys, hope I am asking this in the right section? Can you guys help out a noob. How much do I need to build a pc that can play fallout 4 on max settings???

This is the requirements:

Windows 7/8/10 (64-bit OS required)
Intel Core i7 4790 3.6 GHz/AMD FX-9590 4.7 GHz or equivalent
8 GB RAM
30 GB free HDD space
NVIDIA GTX 780 3GB/AMD Radeon R9 290X 4GB or equivalent
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Fallout 4 is not released yet so we don't know if it is a well optimized PC games or not, hopefully yes.

If the game is fully optimized for PC and the stated requirements are for 1080p 60 FPS then you will need at least RM 4k for just the rig (not include monitor and other peripherals).
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QUOTE(WhySoSerius @ Oct 19 2015, 09:25 AM)
Hi everyone, help needed

[Budget]
- RM1k to 1.3k

[Purpose]
- HTPC mini ITX build

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
- Nil

[Monitor Resolution]
- 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
- Mainly as HTPC and browsing/downloads

[Personal preferences]
- Nil

[Location]
- Selangor

Thanks guys
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Intel Pentium G3250 - RM 228
MSI H81I - RM 299
Kingston HyperX Fury 4GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM - RM 125
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
FSP Hexa+ 400W - RM 155
CM Elite 110 - RM 159

Total: RM 1191 (Techview price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(RagnarTheRed @ Oct 19 2015, 11:58 AM)
Hi Terence, just gonna piggyback on this comment. What's the difference between the Zotac Single fan version and the normal GTX 960?

I would obviously assume that it only has one fan, but does that have a huge impact performance-wise? And with its lower price tag, will it provide more bang for the buck, or would it be better to just spend a little more and get the normal GTX 960?

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It is still a GTX960 with 2GB VRAM and Maxwell chip, only the cooling is different. Single fan version might run hotter than dual or triple fan setup. I think other brands are hitting 1k mark already so it is definitely not worth to get other brands because R9 380 with 4GB VRAM is slightly faster than it at cheaper cost.
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QUOTE(MjMax15 @ Oct 19 2015, 01:08 PM)
[Budget]
RM2,500 - for rig only, not including mouse, kboard etc

[Purpose]
gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
none, complete new

[Monitor resolution]
at least 1080p
will use 42" tv maybe

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
can running smooth company of heroes 2, ARMA 3, SW battlefront 3, GTA V at highest setting
and able to running future game with smooth frame rates

[Personal preferences]
must intel processor
proc & gpu no need overclock feature (user noob.haha)
SSD+normal HDD (storage)
casing design doesnt matter as long give good airflow

[Location]kuala terengganu
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GTA V highest settings will require at least a GTX980Ti (basic & advance settings all maxed out at 1080p 60Hz). I tested with GTX970, basic settings can be turned on to max (including population/traffic density etc. provided your processor is not bottlenecking with i5 mininum), but once advance settings are turned on, FPS drop occurs everywhere.

Your budget cannot fit a GTX970 so highest setting is not possible for now, and you requested SSD to be included which is even harder to build a decent gaming rig that can handle games smoothly.

Intel Core i3 4170 - RM 486
Asus H81M-K - RM 229
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM - RM 220
Gainward GTX960 2GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 799
Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB SSD - RM 229
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 139

Total: RM 2516 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

The degradation of MYR has caused hardware price to increase for the past few months, it is possible to get a i5 + GTX960 under RM 2500 last time FYI. If you wish to run future games at smoother frame rate, I suggest you to save RM 1000 more for i5 + GTX970/R9 390.
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QUOTE(CallMeNick @ Oct 19 2015, 01:36 PM)
Budget] 3k excluding monitor

[Purpose] gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] none

[Monitor resolution] -

[Games & softwares that use frequentl GtaV high spec, mgsV, witcher 3

[Personal preferences] Intel + Nvidia + ssd 500gb

[Location] kl/selangor
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SSD 500GB? That's not cheap bro, it will take 25% of your available budget.

Intel Core i3 4160 - RM 485
ASRock H81M-HDS - RM 229
GSKill NT 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 209
Palit GTX960 2GB GDDR5 Reference OC - RM 899
Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD - RM 799
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
Bitfenix NOVA - RM 149

Total: RM 2969 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)

Drop the SSD or swap it to 120GB so you can get i5.
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QUOTE(MjMax15 @ Oct 19 2015, 04:25 PM)
thank you for your brief information bro
so, i must topup my budget about rm 800+ for i5 and remove ssd for now
hows that?
i think i3 not quite suitable and maybe im wrong, enlighten me.
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If stay at Haswell (4th gen) i5, then you need only RM 350 more while maintaining other parts.

If go for Skylake (6th gen) i5, then you need around RM 650 more for Skylake mobo + DDR4 RAM.

If you are going for GTX970/R9 390, prepare another RM 600.

i3 is not sufficient for CPU demanding games, if only casual gaming like MOBA games then i3 is ok.

SSD can be added later when you have extra funds.
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QUOTE(RaptoR @ Oct 19 2015, 07:36 PM)
Hi sifus! Itching to upgrade the rig, but not sure if now's the right time or wait for currency to drop a bit... sad.gif Maybe seek some advise from here..

[Budget] Not sure, coz only upgrading.. 2k - 2.5k? Rather not hit 3k.

[Purpose] Gaming and work (spreadsheet, word etc)

[Hardwares that will be re-use] - re-using ssd, hard disk, cooler master casing (can still re-use right, quite big type), monitor

[Monitor resolution] 23inch dell, gaming at 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] - word,excel, games - want to play witcher 3 and fallout 4 at high detail if possible?

[Personal preferences] Skylake core i5? since I would like it to last for 5 years or so and upgrade GPU only next time (also need to buy aftermarket cooler too?) Or haswell is good enough...
Normal Ram, not gonna overclock (8gb sufficient rite?)
GPU - either gtx960 or R380 (afraid of heat issue with radeon, but seems like R380 faster a bit?)
PSU - seasonic seems like a good bet
[Location] Probably getting from C-zone PJ.. and they can help transfer hardware from current rig to re-use at another older rig, idealtech charges RM100 for transferring component

Thanks for your time!
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If you want to play at high settings, go for GTX970/R9 390, GTX960/R9 380 is just at the edge of comfortable zone, but you will have to save more for it if you use Skylake, unless you are ok with Haswell. Haswell and Skylake performance is about the same FYI.

And I suggest you to get the parts from Techview instead, they are much cheaper than C-zone and is located in PJ too.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 859
MSI B150M Bazooka - RM 399
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB 2400MHz RAM - RM 289
Zotac GTX960 2GB GDDR5 Single Fan - RM 819
Seasonic S12II 520W - RM 309

Total: RM 2675 (Techview price inclusive of GST)


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QUOTE(RaptoR @ Oct 19 2015, 08:07 PM)
Hi!

What would your recommendation be for Haswell setup then? Wouldn't mind going for that if performance is identical. And maybe with that I can use it for a GTX970 instead.

I have not heard of Techview, and they are located at Jaya One, definitely can check it out since you said their pricing is good!
edit: where did you get their price list?

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I got their price via their lelong account here.

Intel Core i5 4460 - RM 795
Asus H81M-K - RM 229
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM - RM 220
Zotac GTX960 2GB GDDR5 Single Fan - RM 819
Seasonic S12II 520W - RM 309

Total: RM 2372 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

The mobo above is low end mobo but it enough for normal usage, you can top up another RM 100 for Asus B85M-G for PCI-E 3.0 and native USB 3.0 front panel adapter support (current one also got USB 3.0 but the chipset doesn't support it natively, Asus used an external adaptor to enable the speed).

The cheapest GTX970 is Palit reference card at RM 1345, so you need to add RM 526 on top of the amount above if you are going to get it.
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QUOTE(apitzhnu @ Oct 19 2015, 08:33 PM)
Hey all, I'm planning to sell my an all new alienware 15 and replace it with desktop gaming. Of course I want it much better experience with new rig. To get better explanation below is my laptop specs:
http://www.dell.com/my/p/alienware-15-r2/p...timonster=PD_OC (Retail price RM7,999)
- i7 Skylake
- 1TB 7200rpm
- 256GB SSD
- GTX980M

Plan to sell it at RM7.5K.

Now any recommended spec for me on this one budget? Maybe perhaps around 5-6K.

I'm prefer MSI / ASUS GPU GTX 970.
Thanks!
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Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1329
Gigabyte H170 Gaming 3 - RM 569
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 289
MSI GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Tiger - RM 1539
Liteon S900 256GB SSD - RM 409
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
Seasonic M12II EVO 620W - RM 399
Corsair Carbide Spec-01 - RM 249

Total: RM 5008 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

OS and monitor is not included. You can upgrade to GTX980 or even GTX980Ti if you max out your budget.
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QUOTE(apitzhnu @ Oct 19 2015, 09:15 PM)
Hi what if I buy 980 or 980Ti. How much does it cost? U from techview?
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Add around RM 800 for GTX980 and RM 1500 for GTX980Ti.

And nope, I am not from Techview nor other shop, just a normal forumer and helper here laugh.gif

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