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NecroPhilia
post Oct 28 2015, 06:59 PM

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Any gaming rig that fit in RM2.3k included monitor?

game that will play : GTA V(don't mind lowest settings), minecraft, dota2

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post Oct 28 2015, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(face @ Oct 28 2015, 04:43 PM)
NEW :-
INTEL CORE I7 6700 (4 CORE/ 8 THREADS/4.0GHZ)
CRYORIG H7 (145MM)
GIGABYTE H170-GAMING 3 (DDR4/ATX/Crossfire/2xPCI-E/6 SATA3/Killer LAN/7 Phase Power)
G.SKILL NT Series 2x4GB Dual DDR4 2133mhz (CL15)
PALIT GTX970 JETSTREAM 4GB DDR5 256BIT (1304/7000)
FSP HEXA+ 550W (80+/ 2 Years Warranty/ Hot Selling)
THERMALTAKE VERSA H25 WINDOW
SEAGATE 2TB Barracuda 7200RPM/64MB 339
Samsung 650 120GB (500/450)

RM 4767

or

2nd hand :-
Intel Xeon E3-1231V3
Asrock B85M HDS
Avexir Core Blue 2x4gb 1600
WD 1TB Blue hdd
Bitfenix Prodigy-M
Palit GTX970 reference 4GB
FSP Hexa 550W PSU
Cryorig C1 CPU Cooler

rm 3300

or

2nd hand :-
CPU- i7 4770 with box and warranty (Original new heatsink)
GPU- Leadtex 760 with box and warranty
PSU- Cooler master GX 650W
HDD- 1TB cavier Blue
120GB GB Ssamsung evo ssd with box and warranty
Heatsink- Cooler master Vortex plus with box and warranty
xigmatk asgard 382 mid tower case
16GB ram kingstone
Mobo- Asrock B85 hds

rm 2800 ( plan to upgrade the gpu to 980 ? )

NEED HELP ?

i have additional two 2tb hd to fit into either of the system , and monitor

it's mainly for adobe & entertainment
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Heavy in gaming? If yes, 2nd build is better with GTX970 and Xeon E3 1231 V3 isn't too far away from i7 6700 also.

1st and 2nd build also similar except 1st build is Skylake instead of Haswell but 1.4k difference is huge, I'll go for 2nd build if I were you, save money and enough for gaming.
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post Oct 28 2015, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(Nakaoji @ Oct 28 2015, 05:01 PM)
Guys, IdealTech personnel recommended me this spec for my budget PC [RM 3000 - RM 3500]:

Recommended specs :

INTEL CORE I5-4460 RM789
ASROCK B85M HDS RM315
G.SKILL AEGIS 8GB DDR3 1600mhz RM209
PALIT GTX970 Single Fan 4GB DDR5 256BIT RM1399
Xigmatek Tauro M 500 RM239
IN-WIN 703 (ATX) BLACK *PROMO RM179
WD 1TB Caviar Blue RM219
PWP PROMO:150mbps Wireless WIFI USB Dongle  RM10
FREE UPGRADE VOUCHER FOR RM50
FREE Kaspersky Internet Security Version 2016 (Pre-installed)Worth RM80
Total and GST Included  3359

Can you guys recommend me another specs with the same amount of budget ?
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More or less will be the same, i5 + GTX970.

Most probably can get Skylake (6th gen), I'll try and see how it goes.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 855
ASRock B150M-HDV D4 - RM 399
GSkill NT 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 249
Palit GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1399
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
In-Win 703 - RM 179

Total: RM 3499 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)

It seems like you can afford Skylake with your budget, not sure why they are pushing you to previous gen, even though I know the performance difference between them is not huge, but you do get the latest hardware and the so-called "little" improvements by going Skylake right? thumbup.gif
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post Oct 28 2015, 08:58 PM

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INTEL SKYLAKE CORE I5-6500 PROCESSOR
ASROCK B150M PRO4 SOCKET 1151 MAINBOARD
MSI R9 390 GAMING 8GB GDDR5 512BIT
KINGSTON HYPER-X FURY 8GB DDR4 2400MHZ RAM HX424C15FB/8
LITEON 900S 256GB SSD SATA3 (PX^^SCS-256L9S)
FRACTAL DESIGN ARC MIDI R2 M-ATX CHASSIS
Seasonic S12II-620 620W 80PLUS BRONZE Power Supply
BenQ 24” LED Monitor GL2460HM 1920x1080 /12M:1 /2ms /DVI/HDMI

will the psu be sufficient? thx!
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QUOTE(NecroPhilia @ Oct 28 2015, 06:59 PM)
Any gaming rig that fit in RM2.3k included monitor?

game that will play : GTA V(don't mind lowest settings), minecraft, dota2

thanks
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Intel Core i3 4170 - RM 486
Asus H81M-K - RM 229
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM - RM 220
Leadtek GTX750 2GB GDDR5 OC - RM 485
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 139
BenQ GW2255 - RM 390

Total: RM 2363 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

Most probably can run GTA V on low to med settings (1080p), population/traffic density and advance settings are not recommended to turn on.
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QUOTE(nasiayam @ Oct 28 2015, 08:58 PM)
INTEL SKYLAKE CORE I5-6500 PROCESSOR
ASROCK B150M PRO4 SOCKET 1151 MAINBOARD
MSI R9 390 GAMING 8GB GDDR5 512BIT
KINGSTON HYPER-X FURY 8GB DDR4 2400MHZ RAM HX424C15FB/8
LITEON 900S 256GB SSD SATA3 (PX^^SCS-256L9S)
FRACTAL DESIGN ARC MIDI R2 M-ATX CHASSIS
Seasonic S12II-620 620W 80PLUS BRONZE Power Supply
BenQ 24” LED Monitor GL2460HM 1920x1080 /12M:1 /2ms /DVI/HDMI

will the psu be sufficient? thx!
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More than enough, it is one of the most decent PSUs in the market now.
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post Oct 28 2015, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Oct 28 2015, 08:54 PM)
More or less will be the same, i5 + GTX970.

Most probably can get Skylake (6th gen), I'll try and see how it goes.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 855
ASRock B150M-HDV D4 - RM 399
GSkill NT 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 249
Palit GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1399
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
In-Win 703 - RM 179

Total: RM 3499 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)

It seems like you can afford Skylake with your budget, not sure why they are pushing you to previous gen, even though I know the performance difference between them is not huge, but you do get the latest hardware and the so-called "little" improvements by going Skylake right?    thumbup.gif
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That's what I thought at first. Why not they recommend me the skylake. Maybe because they want to suggest the specs that falls in between the price range I have given. Not maxed the price range. Maybe. Hehe.

May I know what's the difference between the GPU you recommended and also the GPU they recommended. I don't understand what it means by reference in the GPU name.
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post Oct 28 2015, 10:06 PM

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Hi, If i want my desktop to connect to the wifi instead of direct connection via cable what do i need to get ? Any recommendations ? Would it affect online gaming, etc ?

This post has been edited by joscmh90: Oct 28 2015, 10:06 PM
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post Oct 28 2015, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(Nakaoji @ Oct 28 2015, 09:55 PM)
That's what I thought at first. Why not they recommend me the skylake. Maybe because they want to suggest the specs that falls in between the price range I have given. Not maxed the price range. Maybe. Hehe.

May I know what's the difference between the GPU you recommended and also the GPU they recommended. I don't understand what it means by reference in the GPU name.
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They are same actually, I used "reference" because the card is a reference card with reference design by nvidia and reference PCB (the board with all the memory and capacitors etc.) too. Because "reference" card is using single blower fan, so they can call it as "single fan" version as well.

Non-reference card means the design, cooler and sometimes the PCB are all custom made by the manufacturers, the most obvious one is the card design and cooler, you can add RM 100 to get the Palit non reference card which they call it "Jetstream" (card series name, different brand has different card series name) which runs slightly cooler than reference card and having higher potential in overclocking (if you want to overclock).
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post Oct 28 2015, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(joscmh90 @ Oct 28 2015, 10:06 PM)
Hi, If i want my desktop to connect to the wifi instead of direct connection via cable what do i need to get ? Any recommendations ? Would it affect online gaming, etc ?
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Either USB WiFi adapter or PCI-E WiFi adapter. USB one is cheaper but reliability is lower than PCI-E one.

If your router/modem is close to you, then difference between LAN cable and WiFi is very small, just minor latency difference, if signal is weak (meaning you are far from the router/modem), then you gonna suffer with packet lost.

May I know your current motherboard brand so I can give recommendation based on the slot and size available?

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post Oct 28 2015, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Oct 28 2015, 10:16 PM)
They are same actually, I used "reference" because the card is a reference card with reference design by nvidia and reference PCB (the board with all the memory and capacitors etc.) too. Because "reference" card is using single blower fan, so they can call it as "single fan" version as well.

Non-reference card means the design, cooler and sometimes the PCB are all custom made by the manufacturers, the most obvious one is the card design and cooler, you can add RM 100 to get the Palit non reference card which they call it "Jetstream" (card series name, different brand has different card series name) which runs slightly cooler than reference card and having higher potential in overclocking (if you want to overclock).
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Haha. What a noob question on my side. Thank you for explaining it back to me. May I ask what's the point of overclocking the GPU? And one more thing, Idealtech won't provide me any OS unless I request for it at which eventually it will increase my budget, am I right?

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Oct 28 2015, 10:20 PM)
Either USB WiFi adapter or PCI-E WiFi adapter. USB one is cheaper but reliability is lower than PCI-E one.

If your router/modem is close to you, then difference between LAN cable and WiFi is very small, just minor latency difference, if signal is weak (meaning you are far from the router/modem), then you gonna suffer with packet lost.

May I know your current motherboard brand so I can give recommendation based on the slot and size available?
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Alright, then I guess I'll go with the PCI-E one.
My desktop is pretty old, mobo is MSI MS7599 870-G45.

Thanks !
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post Oct 28 2015, 10:30 PM

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Budget is Rm1300

Photoshop, Illustrator, and other general work tasks in a desktop publishing environment.

Re use item
Casing
Cd rom
Hdd

Frequently used app
Photoshop, illustrater, excel, dropbox, chrome

Item needed
Motherboard
Cpu
Gpu
Ram up to 16g if supportable
Decent PSU for item above

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post Oct 28 2015, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(Nakaoji @ Oct 28 2015, 10:25 PM)
Haha. What a noob question on my side. Thank you for explaining it back to me. May I ask what's the point of overclocking the GPU? And one more thing, Idealtech won't provide me any OS unless I request for it at which eventually it will increase my budget, am I right?
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Overclock GPU to gain more frame rate and performance.

Idealtech will install the trial version of Windows to test the rig, but you need to buy the key yourself to get it activated.

QUOTE(joscmh90 @ Oct 28 2015, 10:29 PM)
Alright, then I guess I'll go with the PCI-E one.
My desktop is pretty old, mobo is MSI MS7599 870-G45.

Thanks !
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TP-LINK TL-WN881ND, around RM 65.
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QUOTE(jin2x @ Oct 28 2015, 10:30 PM)
Budget is Rm1300

Photoshop, Illustrator, and other general work tasks in a desktop publishing environment.

Re use item
Casing
Cd rom
Hdd

Frequently used app
Photoshop, illustrater, excel, dropbox, chrome

Item needed
Motherboard
Cpu
Gpu
Ram up to 16g if supportable
Decent PSU for item above
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Budget is low.

Intel Core i3 4170 - RM 486
Asus H81M-K - RM 229
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM - RM 220
FSP Hexa+ 400W - RM 155

Total: RM 1090 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

The RM 200 left is quite hard to get a new dedicated GPU that is more powerful than the iGPU of the i3 for now. Increase budget if possible, i3 isn't really enough for Adobe software.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Oct 28 2015, 08:47 PM)
Heavy in gaming? If yes, 2nd build is better with GTX970 and Xeon E3 1231 V3 isn't too far away from i7 6700 also.

1st and 2nd build also similar except 1st build is Skylake instead of Haswell but 1.4k difference is huge, I'll go for 2nd build if I were you, save money and enough for gaming.
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First option got ssd and its new ... 3th option I can upgrade the gpu become 980? Price would be around 4.7k but higher ram n ssd ? I donno which to pick :0
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QUOTE(face @ Oct 29 2015, 03:49 AM)
First option got ssd and its new ... 3th option I can upgrade the gpu become 980? Price would be around 4.7k but higher ram n ssd ? I donno which to pick :0
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i would go for 3RD build,
i74770 is much powerfull than xeon 1231 V3,
it have SSD n more RAM,
sell of that GTX760 for cheap RM500,
n just grab ZOTAC GTX970 AMP! CORE RM1599,
or Sapphire R9390X RM1799
that shud be more than enuff,
u dun nid GTX980 that much if oni gaming on 1080p

if u do sell GTX760 n get GTX970, that build gonna cost RM2800-500+1599=3899

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QUOTE(joscmh90 @ Oct 28 2015, 10:06 PM)
Hi, If i want my desktop to connect to the wifi instead of direct connection via cable what do i need to get ? Any recommendations ? Would it affect online gaming, etc ?
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if u can find comfast brand, it it better, as it is cheaper than TPLINK brand,
http://www.lelong.com.my/comfast-wireless-...7-01-Sale-I.htm
that is comfast 300mbps high gain wifi adapter,
last time i bought the 150mbps, only cost RM45

if u getting the TPLINK brand, for 300mbps high gain gonna cost more than RM90
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Hi, Guys.. Pure for gaming (very little on work, mostly excel).. I am looking at the spec below and trying to do with min budget as i can ... plan to get it end of the year..

i3 4160
Ram 8GB
GPU - R9 380 or GTX 640 (Any recommendation ? if I would like to keep my PSU and is it advisable ?)

**Aim to play latest game with high setting at 1080... and target to upgrade the CPU before 1150 phase out end of 2016 .. if with this senario, should I go with G3258?

My current rig:-
Intel E6750
Asus P5G41c-M LX
Kingston DDR3 4GB
WD 1TB Black
Palit GT 630
Enermax Tomahawk 500

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QUOTE(xernix_ice @ Oct 29 2015, 05:34 AM)
Hi, Guys.. Pure for gaming (very little on work, mostly excel).. I am looking at the spec below and trying to do with min budget as i can ... plan to get it end of the year..

i3 4160
Ram 8GB
GPU - R9 380 or GTX 640 (Any recommendation ? if I would like to keep my PSU and is it advisable ?)

**Aim  to play latest game with high setting at 1080... and target to upgrade the CPU before 1150 phase out end of 2016 .. if with this senario, should I go with G3258?

My current rig:-
Intel E6750
Asus P5G41c-M LX
Kingston DDR3 4GB
WD 1TB Black
Palit GT 630
Enermax Tomahawk 500
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Don't downgrade the i3 to G3258, i3 isn't really sufficient for latest game with high settings nowadays, downgrading to a dual core (w/o HT) G3258 will take you even further away from your personal requirements.

There isn't a GTX640 so I think it is a typo and you are comparing R9 380 to GTX960, perhaps?

R9 380 is recommended to run on a better PSU as it draws more power than standard GTX960, if you are going to change PSU to a more decent one, then R9 380 with more VRAM will be a much better choice and future proof.

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