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 [OFFICIAL]Rig Suggestion Q&A Thread V10!

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apitzhnu
post Oct 29 2015, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Oct 20 2015, 08:43 AM)
You have VSync on, that's why FPS will cap to either 30 or 60. When FPS drops below 60, for example, to 40, then the system will cap you to nearest 30, this is because of VSync, some games do have 45 but seems like GTA V doesn't have it.

So you can try to reduce graphics settings and see how it goes, most probably can solve this issue.
Z170 is mostly for "K" processor for overclocking and SLI/CF setup. If you think you are going for SLI in the future, Z170 is the way to go but you have to spend at least RM 700 for the lowest end Z170 mobo.

If you are getting a GTX970 now and would like to add another GTX970 for SLI purpose later, I strongly suggest you to go for a single GTX980Ti instead, this is because single card setup is always better than SLI/CF setup. You need to consider the SLI support from games developers, some yes some don't, meaning no SLI profile during the first day of title release will set you back to single card unless you crack the SLI profile yourself, which will fail mostly. And SLI setup will consume more power than single card, you will have to either get a SLI ready PSU now or change the PSU later if you are not getting a SLI ready PSU now.

GTX970 SLI is almost equal to a GTX980Ti and you don't get 8GB VRAM since you can't stack it at the moment.
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Thanks bro biggrin.gif but in term of gtx980 or 980ti do you have any suggestion which card shud I get? MSI is one of the cheapest branded so far I see

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post Oct 29 2015, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(apitzhnu @ Oct 29 2015, 09:40 AM)
Thanks bro biggrin.gif but in term of gtx980 or 980ti do you have any suggestion which card shud I get? MSI is one of the cheapest branded so far I see
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Palit and Zotac normally are the cheapest one, while Asus, Gigabyte and MSI are the "premium" brand.

Either one is fine for me, the most important factor for me is the price, if budget can fit the premium brand then I'll consider it.

There is quite a lot of variants from MSI, Tiger series, Twin Frozr Gaming series, water cooled sea hawk series, lightning series etc. Most likely the cheapest MSI you mentioned is their Tiger/Twin Frozr series.
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post Oct 29 2015, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Oct 29 2015, 07:15 AM)
Don't downgrade the i3 to G3258, i3 isn't really sufficient for latest game with high settings nowadays, downgrading to a dual core (w/o HT) G3258 will take you even further away from your personal requirements.

There isn't a GTX640 so I think it is a typo and you are comparing R9 380 to GTX960, perhaps?

R9 380 is recommended to run on a better PSU as it draws more power than standard GTX960, if you are going to change PSU to a more decent one, then R9 380 with more VRAM will be a much better choice and future proof.
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Sorry yes .. typo .. May I know how much will these cost me in total ? with the motherboard included. As in term of PSU, any recommendation if I am going for R9 380 and how much ?

Excluding casing, hdd, dvd rom and monitor .. Thanks
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post Oct 29 2015, 12:22 PM

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Hi guys, buying a new rig with budget RM1500+- exclude keyboard, mouse, monitor. Can anyone suggest/recommend? Thanks!
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post Oct 29 2015, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(xernix_ice @ Oct 29 2015, 11:35 AM)
Sorry yes .. typo .. May I know how much will these cost me in total ? with the motherboard included. As in term of PSU, any recommendation if I am going for R9 380 and how much ?

Excluding casing, hdd, dvd rom and monitor ..  Thanks
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Intel Core i3 4170 - RM 486
Asus H81M-K - RM 229
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM - RM 220

MSI R9 380 2GB GDDR5 Armor 2X - RM 909
PowerColor R9 380 4GB GDDR5 PCS+ - RM 999
Gainward GTX960 2GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 799
Zotac GTX960 2GB GDDR5 Single Fan - RM 819

Seasonic S12II 620W - RM 349
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189

There are few options for GPU and PSU.

If you pick GTX960 with 2GB VRAM variant, you can save a lot because price is slightly cheaper than R9 380 and the PSU requirement is lower. The cheapest can set you back to just RM 799 + RM 189 = RM 988.

If you pick R9 380, you are recommended to go for the better PSU, this increases the cost in overall, RM 909 + RM 349 = RM 1258 (2GB), RM 999 + RM 349 = RM 1348 (4GB).

With the cost of R9 380 + PSU, you can get GTX970 with just a minor top up to your budget, cheapest GTX970 + PSU is just RM 1345 + RM 189 = RM 1534.

Of course you can bear the risk and go for the cheaper PSU to pair with R9 380, but if anything happens, don't come back and find me laugh.gif

i3 sometimes will bottleneck the GPU due to dual core architecture. i5 is more recommended for latest games with high settings nod.gif
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post Oct 29 2015, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(x_X @ Oct 29 2015, 12:22 PM)
Hi guys, buying a new rig with budget RM1500+- exclude keyboard, mouse, monitor. Can anyone suggest/recommend? Thanks!
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For gaming? If yes then budget is way too low to fit any decent hardware for gaming for the time being.
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post Oct 29 2015, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Oct 29 2015, 01:11 PM)
For gaming? If yes then budget is way too low to fit any decent hardware for gaming for the time being.
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Yes for gaming, so whats the lowest budget for basic gaming rig? Thanks
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post Oct 29 2015, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(x_X @ Oct 29 2015, 02:05 PM)
Yes for gaming, so whats the lowest budget for basic gaming rig? Thanks
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It is solely depend on your requirements, if you can accept low settings, around 30 FPS-ish, 1.5k is possible, if want medium settings 60 FPS, 2.5k is recommended, high and ultra settings will need 3.5k and more.

So what is your requirements?
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Oct 29 2015, 02:34 PM)
It is solely depend on your requirements, if you can accept low settings, around 30 FPS-ish, 1.5k is possible, if want medium settings 60 FPS, 2.5k is recommended, high and ultra settings will need 3.5k and more.

So what is your requirements?
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i dont mind low settings, can suggest me? 1.5k - 1.7k
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post Oct 29 2015, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(x_X @ Oct 29 2015, 03:23 PM)
i dont mind low settings, can suggest me? 1.5k - 1.7k
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Intel Pentium G3250 - RM 229
Asus H81M-K - RM 229
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM - RM 220
Leadtek GTX750 2GB GDDR5 OC - RM 485
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
FSP Hexa+ 400W - RM 155
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 139

Total: RM 1682 (Techview price inclusive of GST)
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post Oct 29 2015, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Oct 28 2015, 11:20 PM)
Budget is low.

Intel Core i3 4170 - RM 486
Asus H81M-K - RM 229
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM - RM 220
FSP Hexa+ 400W - RM 155

Total: RM 1090 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

The RM 200 left is quite hard to get a new dedicated GPU that is more powerful than the iGPU of the i3 for now. Increase budget if possible, i3 isn't really enough for Adobe software.
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post Oct 29 2015, 06:51 PM

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[Budget]Around 3k~3.5k

[Purpose] gaming , movie and programming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] none

[Monitor resolution] more than 20"

[Games & software that use frequently] Dota 2, Visual Studio

[Location] Penang

[Personal preferences] if can include monitor and SSD for install windows purpose

Thanks
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post Oct 29 2015, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(siang930615 @ Oct 29 2015, 06:51 PM)
[Budget]Around 3k~3.5k

[Purpose] gaming , movie and programming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] none

[Monitor resolution] more than 20"

[Games & software that use frequently] Dota 2, Visual Studio

[Location] Penang

[Personal preferences] if can include monitor and SSD for install windows purpose

Thanks
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Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 809
MSI B150M Bazooka D4 - RM 409
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 289
Gainward GTX960 2GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 799
Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB SSD - RM 229
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 139
AOC I2360SD IPS - RM 499

Total: RM 3587 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

Downgrade the monitor to smaller size to keep < 3.5k.

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post Oct 29 2015, 07:57 PM

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Hi Terence,

Will a core i3 haswell be good enough to power a GTX970? Gaming on 1080p.
Previously you recommended skylake i5, bazooka d4 + hyper x fury 8gb. Comes up to about 1.5k +/-, price went up slightly

What about a core i3 build + mobo + ram, can it be done at RM1k? decent mobo like what your recommended for the bazooka d4.

I'm probably going for the GTX970 core extreme zotac. (unless the palit 970 jetstream is equally as good?)
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QUOTE(RaptoR @ Oct 29 2015, 07:57 PM)
Hi Terence,

Will a core i3 haswell be good enough to power a GTX970? Gaming on 1080p.
Previously you recommended skylake i5, bazooka d4 + hyper x fury 8gb. Comes up to about 1.5k +/-, price went up slightly

What about a core i3 build + mobo + ram, can it be done at RM1k? decent mobo like what your recommended for the bazooka d4.

I'm probably going for the GTX970 core extreme zotac. (unless the palit 970 jetstream is equally as good?)
Thanks.
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I won't recommend you to pair i3 with GTX970, even it works, but it will bottleneck the GTX970 in many aspects. With GTX970, you are able to run most of the games at ultra setting (1080p), if not, high setting will do as well. i3 is somehow a dual core with another 2 virtual cores, some games do use it well but not all, i5 with real quad core works much better with it.

If you cannot afford Skylake i5, you can consider Haswell i5, price difference is around RM 200.

The Bazooka D4 mobo is only usable on Skylake CPU and Skylale i3 hasn't reach here yet, so if you want to switch to Haswell, you gonna need a Haswell mobo.
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post Oct 29 2015, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Oct 29 2015, 07:16 PM)
Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 809
MSI B150M Bazooka D4 - RM 409
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 289
Gainward GTX960 2GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 799
Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB SSD - RM 229
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 139
AOC I2360SD IPS - RM 499

Total: RM 3587 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

Downgrade the monitor to smaller size to keep < 3.5k.
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For this specification dota 2 able on high setting? And fulfill the game in market?
And cooling ok? Thanks you
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post Oct 29 2015, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(siang930615 @ Oct 29 2015, 08:30 PM)
For this specification dota 2 able on high setting? And fulfill the game in market?
And cooling ok? Thanks you
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Easily max setting at over 100 FPS with GTX960 for Dota 2.

As for other games, it depends on the game optimization from the developers. Based on the current market trend, GTX960 is able to run most of the games at med to high settings (1080p).

Cooling is fine too, locked i5 with stock cooler should've no temperature issue, you can get few casing fans if you are not satisfied with the temperature. Please note that the GPU is using single blower fan cooling which is slightly higher in temperature when operating compared to non blower type cooler.

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post Oct 29 2015, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Oct 29 2015, 09:01 PM)
Easily max setting at over 100 FPS with GTX960 for Dota 2.

As for other games, it depends on the game optimization from the developers. Based on the current market trend, GTX960 is able to run most of the games at med to high settings (1080p).

Cooling is fine too, locked i5 with stock cooler should've no temperature issue, you can get few casing fans if you are not satisfied with the temperature. Please note that the GPU is using single blower fan cooling which is slightly higher in temperature when operating compared to non blower type cooler.
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Really thanks for the information.
SSD 120GB is enough for install windows?
non blower type cooler and blower fan any different actually? sry for keep asking the question.
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post Oct 29 2015, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(siang930615 @ Oct 29 2015, 09:25 PM)
Really thanks for the information.
SSD 120GB is enough for install windows?
non blower type cooler and blower fan any different actually? sry for keep asking the question.
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Standard Win 10 installation takes only 25GB (+ all windows update).

You can check my yesterday's post here for more information on the cooler.

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post Oct 29 2015, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Oct 29 2015, 09:49 PM)
Standard Win 10 installation takes only 25GB (+ all windows update).

You can check my yesterday's post here for more information on the cooler.
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Gain knowledge thanks a lot

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