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 [OFFICIAL]Rig Suggestion Q&A Thread V10!

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post Feb 2 2016, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(Andrew_1980 @ Feb 2 2016, 04:04 PM)
I prefer get i7 combo.

With i7 rig, common GPU is GTX970 or above. But still depends on your usage and budget, isn't using GTX970 to play mini game? laugh.gif
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haha. i do agreed. i think i7 combo should be must more better.
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post Feb 2 2016, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(tabs @ Feb 2 2016, 04:14 PM)
haha. i do agreed. i think i7 combo should be must more better.
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i7 have iGPU, thought u will have dedicated GPU but iGPU will be ur best friend when the GPU failure/broken down. While E3 doesn't have iGPU.
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post Feb 2 2016, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Feb 2 2016, 04:00 PM)
Read my statement again, I am saying i7 6700 is ahead of Xeon E3 1230 V5 due to higher clock speed, this is non-oc vs non-oc speed (stock speed).

So getting i7 6700 + B150 is more economical.

Gainward is no longer in Malaysia, don't get any of their leftover stock if you are worried about warranty (according to Idealtech boss a.k.a zhen^wei).

GPU choice is listed in my first quote, please check it out.
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Yes, you are correct. i7 6700 and 6700k what is the difference since the price is rm 200 different
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post Feb 2 2016, 04:41 PM

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[Budget] RM 3000 - RM3500

[Purpose] Download / Movies / Light Gaming / Multitask

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor, Casing, HDD(but will need SSD for new win10 as OS)

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Football Manager, NBA, Age of Empires III, Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm.

[Personal preferences] Good CPU since I usually multitask (game+browsing+watching tv series at the same time)

[Location] Butterworth, Penang
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post Feb 2 2016, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(tabs @ Feb 2 2016, 04:35 PM)
Yes, you are correct. i7 6700 and 6700k what is the difference since the price is rm 200 different
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6700K is unlocked version which mean u can do overclock
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post Feb 2 2016, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(tabs @ Feb 2 2016, 04:35 PM)
Yes, you are correct. i7 6700 and 6700k what is the difference since the price is rm 200 different
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K CPU is unlocked for overclocking "naturally" but due to some glitch (again), non-K CPU can also be used to overclock via BCLK overclocking.

QUOTE(KaedeRukawa @ Feb 2 2016, 04:41 PM)
[Budget] RM 3000 - RM3500

[Purpose] Download / Movies / Light Gaming / Multitask

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor, Casing, HDD(but will need SSD for new win10 as OS)

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Football Manager, NBA, Age of Empires III, Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm.

[Personal preferences] Good CPU since I usually multitask (game+browsing+watching tv series at the same time)

[Location] Butterworth, Penang
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Your current casing form factor is ATX?
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post Feb 2 2016, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Feb 2 2016, 04:50 PM)
K CPU is unlocked for overclocking "naturally" but due to some glitch (again), non-K CPU can also be used to overclock via BCLK overclocking.
Your current casing form factor is ATX?
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Thanks guys. very helpful knowledge on this. i will go grab something tonight or later on smile.gif
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post Feb 2 2016, 05:49 PM

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Hey guys, I need an idea of a rig I plan on assembling. Your thoughts are much appreciated smile.gif

[Budget] 2000-3000

[Purpose] Gaming (Dota2, The Witcher 3, COD and future games [doesnt have to be in highest graphics quality, but at least average]) & 3D CAD

[Hardwares that will be re-use] None

[Monitor resolution] Require.

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Dota 2, COD, Dragon Age inquisition, 3D CAD designing

[Personal preferences] Just mainly for hardcore gaming in the future. Stopped as my laptop hasnt been able to perform after 4 years of service.

[Location] PJ, Selangor

Personal Question, do recommend which internet wireless card and also a sound card. Sound card as Im an audiophile (beginner) but im not sure if it does play a difference in the sound quality played on more expensive cards.
Sorry if the question seem silly sad.gif Do advice! biggrin.gif

Thank you very much!
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post Feb 2 2016, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Feb 2 2016, 04:50 PM)
K CPU is unlocked for overclocking "naturally" but due to some glitch (again), non-K CPU can also be used to overclock via BCLK overclocking.
Your current casing form factor is ATX?
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can i ask which brand of graphic card is better in term of performance or value for money. that is too much brand in the market that offer 970.

beside MSI. which other brand can recommend? EVGA? Asus? Gigabyte?
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post Feb 2 2016, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(tabs @ Feb 2 2016, 05:59 PM)
can i ask which brand of graphic card is better in term of performance or value for money. that is too much brand in the market that offer 970.

beside MSI. which other brand can recommend? EVGA? Asus? Gigabyte?
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If you want value for money, never look at EVGA, Asus, Gigabyte and MSI, they all are "premium" brand and will cost you more than other brands.

You can try to look for Zotac and Palit card.
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QUOTE(amrok @ Feb 2 2016, 05:49 PM)
Hey guys, I need an idea of a rig I plan on assembling. Your thoughts are much appreciated smile.gif

[Budget] 2000-3000

[Purpose] Gaming (Dota2, The Witcher 3, COD and future games [doesnt have to be in highest graphics quality, but at least average]) & 3D CAD

[Hardwares that will be re-use] None

[Monitor resolution] Require.

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Dota 2, COD, Dragon Age inquisition, 3D CAD designing

[Personal preferences] Just mainly for hardcore gaming in the future. Stopped as my laptop hasnt been able to perform after 4 years of service.

[Location] PJ, Selangor

Personal Question, do recommend which internet wireless card and also a sound card. Sound card as Im an audiophile (beginner) but im not sure if it does play a difference in the sound quality played on more expensive cards.
Sorry if the question seem silly sad.gif Do advice! biggrin.gif

Thank you very much!
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If you can increase your budget to slightly over 3k, then get this.

Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 828
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 290
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 200
Zotac GTX960 2GB GDDR5 ITX - RM 849
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189
TP-LINK TL-WN881ND PCI-E WiFi - RM 58
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 170
Acer S230H FHD - RM 399

Total: RM 3198 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

If cannot, downgrade the CPU to i3 6100.

As for sound card, I suggest you to use the built in one first as your budget is not able to fit it, high end sound card can cost you a bomb.
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post Feb 2 2016, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Feb 2 2016, 06:15 PM)
If you can increase your budget to slightly over 3k, then get this.

Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 828
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 290
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 200
Zotac GTX960 2GB GDDR5 ITX - RM 849
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189
TP-LINK TL-WN881ND PCI-E WiFi - RM 58
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 170
Acer S230H FHD - RM 399

Total: RM 3198 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

If cannot, downgrade the CPU to i3 6100.

As for sound card, I suggest you to use the built in one first as your budget is not able to fit it, high end sound card can cost you a bomb.
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Bro. Want to ask with i7 6700 what gigabyte mobo is suitable for me?
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post Feb 3 2016, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(tabs @ Feb 2 2016, 11:53 PM)
Bro. Want to ask with i7 6700 what gigabyte mobo is suitable for me?
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For me, i typically go for budget motherboard such as H81 for haswell series and above as they include SATA III and USB 3.0.

These features typically do not present in the older H61 chipset motherboards.

Since i already stop doing active trading, kinda out of the loop for skylake series hardwares. I only spend for motherboards with the features that i need. smile.gif
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post Feb 3 2016, 07:30 AM

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QUOTE(tabs @ Feb 2 2016, 11:53 PM)
Bro. Want to ask with i7 6700 what gigabyte mobo is suitable for me?
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The one listed in the quote is able to run i7 6700.
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post Feb 3 2016, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Feb 2 2016, 06:15 PM)
If you can increase your budget to slightly over 3k, then get this.

Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 828
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 290
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 200
Zotac GTX960 2GB GDDR5 ITX - RM 849
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189
TP-LINK TL-WN881ND PCI-E WiFi - RM 58
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 170
Acer S230H FHD - RM 399

Total: RM 3198 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

If cannot, downgrade the CPU to i3 6100.

As for sound card, I suggest you to use the built in one first as your budget is not able to fit it, high end sound card can cost you a bomb.
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Hey, thanks for the help. I have another question upon the Intel chips. What's the major diff between Intel Core i5 6400 and Intel Corei i5 4460? From what I saw online, both are of the same price (Took from intel website) however, i5 4460 has a process base frequency of 3.4GHz while i5 6400 has a process base frequency of only 2.7 GHz. Why did you choose 6400 over 4460? Thank you smile.gif
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QUOTE(amrok @ Feb 3 2016, 08:59 AM)
Hey, thanks for the help. I have another question upon the Intel chips. What's the major diff between Intel Core i5 6400 and Intel Corei i5 4460? From what I saw online, both are of the same price (Took from intel website) however, i5 4460 has a process base frequency of 3.4GHz while i5 6400 has a process base frequency of only 2.7 GHz. Why did you choose 6400 over 4460? Thank you smile.gif
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It's 6th gen (Skylake) vs 4th gen (Haswell).

Performance difference isn't huge between them but you get DDR4 support by going 6th gen and some of the improvements from Skylake.

If you want to save money, get 4th gen, no problem there, it can save you < RM 100 (most likely).


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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Feb 3 2016, 09:11 AM)
It's 6th gen (Skylake) vs 4th gen (Haswell).

Performance difference isn't huge between them but you get DDR4 support by going 6th gen and some of the improvements from Skylake.

If you want to save money, get 4th gen, no problem there, it can save you < RM 100 (most likely).
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Thanks your recommendation. any place able to get graphic card that you quoted? i checked All It yday it is much more expensive on the price that you quoted.

btw sorry for asking what is different on H170 Gaming 3 with Killer Lan port. is that good? as yday the sales person asking me to that this mobo instead of B150. but price is different RM 200++ just wondering is that worth or not? for wireless networking as my current use
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QUOTE(tabs @ Feb 3 2016, 11:24 AM)
Thanks your recommendation. any place able to get graphic card that you quoted? i checked All It yday it is much more expensive on the price that you quoted.

btw sorry for asking what is different on H170 Gaming 3 with Killer Lan port. is that good? as yday the sales person asking me to that this mobo instead of B150. but price is different RM 200++ just wondering is that worth or not? for wireless networking as my current use
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I stated in the quotation, the price is from ETech, you can find the shop in Kepong.

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Not worth if you aren't using any of the extra features offered by this mobo, the H170-HD3 mobo I suggested is enough for your normal usage.

Killer LAN port is just a market gimmick to solve gaming lag, nothing special if you are going to use WiFi.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Feb 3 2016, 11:31 AM)
I stated in the quotation, the price is from ETech, you can find the shop in Kepong.

ETech Lelong

ETech FB

Not worth if you aren't using any of the extra features offered by this mobo, the H170-HD3 mobo I suggested is enough for your normal usage.

Killer LAN port is just a market gimmick to solve gaming lag, nothing special if you are going to use WiFi.
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lesson learned smile.gif thanks bro, another quick question what is MSI Tiger and MSI Gaming since the price is 200 different only. which i thinking getting gaming instead of tiger and asus 970 all is much different lol.

For Ram is it compatible if i use back my old comp ram ADATA 8 GB DDR4, 2133 SODIMM? or i should get UDIMM ram?

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QUOTE(tabs @ Feb 3 2016, 12:12 PM)
lesson learned smile.gif thanks bro, another quick question what is MSI Tiger and MSI Gaming since the price is 200 different only. which i thinking getting gaming instead of tiger and asus 970 all is much different lol.
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MSI Gaming comes with Twin Frozr cooler and is the highest end GTX970 card for MSI brand, that's why price is more expensive, both of them are GTX970 so performance will be almost identical, the Gaming version might have a higher clock core which yields slightly higher FPS than the Tiger version, but whether it worth the extra RM 200, it depends on you, if you have budget then go for it, if no then just get the Tiger version, you can overclock manually to match what Gaming version can offer.

If you want to save money, no need to look for Asus Strix, MSI Gaming, Gigabyte G1 Gaming/Xtreme, EVGA card.



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