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post Oct 30 2015, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(Vcys86 @ Oct 30 2015, 09:01 PM)
Hi, thanks for the quick feedback.

Hmm.. Yeah, I am thinking whether worthy to give the old rig some best bang of buck upgrade at the same time, don't want to invest too much as it might be more worthy to get a whole new rig in total  laugh.gif

Sometimes do hit the error (system running low of memory) when open too many tabs in Chrome.
I might do some light gaming...like Fallout 4..

Below 1k maybe?
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Chrome is a memory hog, 4GB isn't enough already for 2015, 8GB is the new minimum.

Fallout 4 minimum requirements for the GPU is a HD7870 and your GPU is way too far from achieving the minimum requirements, with 1k budget I will suggest you to get another 4/8GB RAM + GTX960 first, SSD can be added later as SSD will only speed up the PC boot time, app opening time etc.

8GB Value RAM - RM 200
Cheapest GTX960 - RM 799
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post Oct 30 2015, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(Vcys86 @ Oct 30 2015, 09:59 PM)
I see.
Appreciate your detailed explanation! notworthy.gif
I scroll back few pages to get some recommendations

RAM
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM - RM 220
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 289

Can my rig support both of them? My MB have 4 memory slots and i used 2 of them already.
I still can get 1 can slot it in right?  unsure.gif

GPU
Gainward GTX960 2GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 799
Leadtek GTX750 2GB GDDR5 OC - RM 485

Is there any other model that you would recommend please?

Finally, do I need to upgrade my PSU to support both of this upgrade?
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DDR4 is only usable on Skylake (6th gen) and Haswell-E (4th gen i7 Extreme series).

Yours is DDR3 but since your current RAM is 1333MHz, so if you get 1600MHz, it will be downclocked to 1333MHz to match the speed of the slowest RAM, this is still fine because performance gap between them is small and you won't notice much difference in real life usage. Or if you want to run at 1600MHz, you can completely remove your old RAM and use the new RAM only, 8GB is enough for now.

Your PSU is 500W, no issue supporting GTX960. The same tier AMD GPU which is R9 380 is priced slightly higher than GTX960 and it draws more power than GTX960, your PSU is still able to power it but I'll suggest you to stick with GTX960 for the time being to save cost and Fallout 4 is another nvidia gameworks title, meaning nvidia GPU will have slight advantage over AMD.

If you want other brands, you can consider Zotac, it is just slightly more expensive than Gainward reference unit.

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QUOTE(Guenhwyvar @ Oct 30 2015, 11:19 PM)
Hi terence_nwb,

What do you think of this specs?

Processor : i5 3.4 GHz (4460)
Asus B85M - G (need your recommendation for this too)
RAM Kingston 8GB
HDD WD 3.5 1TB
casing + psu (what do you recommend for these?)
GFC nvdia : GTX 750
DVD writer : Asus
Microsoft win 8.1 (OEM)

I mean I would like to have the option to upgrade in the future. And I play games like fallout, divinity original sins and team fortress 2.

Thanks  thumbup.gif
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Budget for the build?

Edit: Checked back few posts, it seems like your budget is 3k right?

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post Oct 31 2015, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(Paladin @ Oct 31 2015, 04:40 PM)
Need recommendation for i7 Skylake Rig.
Prefer 250SSD
Nvidia 960 Graphic card

Budget below 4.2k
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For gaming? If yes then i5 + GTX970 is much better than i7 + GTX960. GPU is more important than CPU when we talk about gaming, getting an i7 and a mid end GPU won't give you the high or ultra settings that you want. So spend more on GPU instead, go for GTX970 and i5 and you will get almost 2x the performance of GTX960 and i7.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 875
MSI B150M Bazooka D4 - RM 409
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 289
Palit GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Jetstream - RM 1399
Liteon S900 256GB SSD - RM 409
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
Seasonic S12II 620W - RM 349
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 139

Total: RM 4094 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

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post Oct 31 2015, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(Guenhwyvar @ Oct 31 2015, 07:41 PM)
LOL sorry about that, forgotten to explain. Well......I forgot to factor in a monitor for it. So had to reduce a little bit. But I want your opinion on it? Is that ok? Well I need your recommendation on the motherboard, is that motherboard ok? Or is there a better one to go with the CPU. Those specs were proposed by a shop, but I am willing to top up a little bit.  tongue.gif
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I mean I would like to have the option to upgrade in the future. And I play games like fallout, divinity original sins and team fortress 2.
GTX750 isn't really enough for Fallout 4 to be honest, you are just under the min requirements, if you are ok with low/med settings then it should be fine.

And about the upgrade ability, Haswell is currently being replaced by Skylake now, so in terms of CPU upgrade, nope, not possible to jump from Haswell to next gen CPU due to socket difference, but you still can upgrade to Haswell i7 next time if you want. As for GPU, no issue there since the board is also using latest PCI-E 3.0. If you can find MSI B85M-E45, then get it instead of the Asus board, it comes with additional 2 RAM slots for future upgrade when needed.

So the budget includes the OS license key too? If yes, then not much you can squeeze anymore because genuine key is quite expensive here, it would take maybe 10% of your budget sweat.gif


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QUOTE(Rexz8 @ Oct 31 2015, 08:06 PM)
[Budget] 5k

[Purpose] Gaming, Game Making, Oculus Rift

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor, SSD+HDD, Keyboard, Mouse

[Monitor resolution] 23"

[Games & software that use frequently] GTA V, Dota 2, TERA, Gamemaker Studio

[Location] Selangor

[Personal preferences] Intel and Nvidia, No OCing
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Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1320
Gigabyte H170 Gaming 3 - RM 589
GSKill NT 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 249
Palit GTX980 4GB GDDR5 Jetstream - RM 2235
Seasonic M12II EVO 620W - RM 409
Bitfenix NOVA - RM 149

Total: RM 4951 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(Paladin @ Oct 31 2015, 11:21 PM)
Thanks for the suggestion but i seldom play game. Mostly use it to edit some video and running autocad. So i think faster CPU is needed.
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Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1399
MSI B150M Bazooka D4 - RM 409
Kingston HyperX Fury 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 569
Gainward GTX960 2GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 799
Liteon S900 256GB SSD - RM 409
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 139

Total: RM 4138 (Techview price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(soultaker @ Nov 1 2015, 11:34 AM)
[Budget]RM4K can topup if required

[Purpose]Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor

[Monitor resolution]1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently]Dota 2, COD, and some other game.

[Personal preferences]Intel Skylake, nVidia, SSHD no need SSD will upgrade later.

[Location]Selangor

Hi guys,

I need gaming rig recommendation based on above preferences. I had left the computer hardware technology for quite long time and really need your opinion to help me out. Is there any specific brand for GPU that is better than others nowadays? I also thinking of getting Skylake instead of Haswell due to I will not be upgrading my rig in the future. So I might fork out extra cash so that the rig can last few years longer.

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Any specific brand for GPU that is better than others? The answer is depend on your luck, even those expensive "premium" brands like Asus, MSI, Gigabyte also have chance to fail/problem in just few weeks/months time, so just get the one with longest warranty period, like Zotac, 5 years warranty.

Your budget can fit SSD so no need to spend at SSHD, the 8GB SSD in SSHD doesn't really bring any significant speed improvement.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 875
MSI B150M Bazooka D4 - RM 409
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 289
Zotac GTX970 4GB GDDR5 ZT-90101-10P - RM 1479
Liteon S900 256GB SSD - RM 409
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
Seasonic S12II 620W - RM 349
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 139

Total: RM 4174 (Techview price inclusive of GST)
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post Nov 1 2015, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(Guenhwyvar @ Nov 1 2015, 02:09 PM)
I see, well had a 2nd thought and "readjusted" my budget. So now in my mind:

Intel Core i5 4460 - RM830
MSI B150M Bazooka D4 - (The shop doesn't have this, probably I'll look at other shops. Or do you have other recommendation similar to it?)
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 289
Zotac GTX960 2GB GDDR5 (MSG:GZ version) (Can't seem to find this brand either? Any other brands and model similar to it?)
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 139

Btw, I am based in Penang.

Ok back to budget of 3k (without OS) Sorry I know, I have been adjusting a few times.  laugh.gif
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You picked a Haswell CPU, so the mobo and RAM listed above need to be changed due to compability issue.

So you are buying the parts in Penang? Not much choices then because product range is limited there. You can try to find Hikari85 in Garage Sales, she has a shop in Butterworth.

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QUOTE(Guenhwyvar @ Nov 1 2015, 05:33 PM)
Oh so the one, you suggested was a Skylake? (i56500) Sorry, I'm kinda lost touch with tech stuff now. I see, couldn't find the user though but once again Thank You very much!  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Nov 1 2015, 04:52 PM)
Hi, anybody can suggest me CPU casing which is similar to CM Storm Enforcer's dimensions? It must be 230mm wide at least as I am using a tower cooler.
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QUOTE(Lacie @ Nov 1 2015, 05:16 PM)
My friend is looking to build a PC. Suggested rig is appreciated

[Budget] RM 4k

[Purpose] 3D modeling and gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor, keyboard and mouse

[Games & softwares that use frequently] 3ds Max, DOTA 2, Payday 2

[Personal preferences] i7 processor

[Location] Shah Alam
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Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1399
MSI B150M Bazooka D4 - RM 409
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 289
Palit GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1325
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 139

Total: RM 3975 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

You can downgrade the GPU to GTX960 and get a better PSU or add in SSD since GTX960 is sufficient for Dota 2 and Payday 2. The GTX970 I picked is just for future proof just in case you want to play other latest games, you still have a decent GPU to run them.
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QUOTE(shadowblack @ Nov 2 2015, 07:58 AM)
My friend want to build a m-atx rig. His budget is around rm2k-rm2.3k. For gaming purposes. Can anybody suggest the hardware please

If can want to use at least gtx950. Higher gc also can
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Will use Haswell instead of Skylake due to budget unable to fit Skylake hardware.

And the price of GTX950 is just too close to GTX960, not worth the money.

Intel Core i3 4170 - RM 495
Asus H81M-K - RM 229
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM - RM 220
Gainward GTX960 2GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 799
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189
CM N200 - RM 185

Total: RM 2342 (Techview price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(shadowblack @ Nov 2 2015, 01:08 PM)
If skylake need to increase budget to how much?
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At least RM 600 is needed and you will be upgraded to Skylake i5 because Skylake i3 still not yet reach Malaysia, or you can just wait until the Skylake i3 stocks arrive first then only buy the parts.

QUOTE(EvOKIdZ @ Nov 2 2015, 01:52 PM)
yes assume it is for autodesk 3DS Max and Maya
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Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 875
MSI B150M Bazooka D4 - RM 409
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 289
Gainward GTX750 1GB GDDR5 - RM 439
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
FSP Hexa+ 400W - RM 155
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 139

Total: RM 2531 (Techview price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(Shin86 @ Nov 2 2015, 02:30 PM)
Budget : RM2900

Purpose : Mostly gaming, watching movies, some video editing

Hardwares that will be re-used : Casing (giant raidmax agusta  shocking.gif ) and monitor

Games and softwares : Mostly FPS and third person game.. adobe premier

Personal preference : Intel if possible.. AMD is still okay provided if I can run my games in high, if not ultra setting

Location : East malaysia.. I am going to buy all the parts via online purchase, so dealer/seller who has lelong.com page will be very much preferable.
Thank you sifus thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 875
MSI B150M Bazooka D4 - RM 409
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 289
Zotac GTX960 2GB GDDR5 ZT-90306-10M - RM 840
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
Superflower Leadex 550W SF-550F14M PSU - RM 299

Total: RM 2937 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

If you want keep below < 2.9k, you can downgrade the GPU to reference card (RM 799) or swap the PSU to non modular unit like FSP Hexa+ 550W (RM 189).
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QUOTE(Shin86 @ Nov 2 2015, 03:22 PM)
Thank you very much.. so am I good with only the stock cooler ?
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Totally fine, add more casing fans or get 3rd party cooler only if you are not satisfied with the temperature or when you think the stock cooler is just too noisy for you.
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QUOTE(Guenhwyvar @ Nov 2 2015, 05:24 PM)
Hi terence_nwb,

What do you think of this setup? Any cons if I go for AMD instead of Intel? It was recommended by another shop.

AMD Atlon X4 860K processor
Asus A68HM-E
Corsair 8GB DDR3 RAM
WD 1TB HDD
Sapphire AMD Radeon R9 384 2GB DDR5 (PCIE-3.0)
Crossair VS550PSU
Kingston 120GB SSD
Cooler Master Elite N200

Many thanks!  biggrin.gif
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X4 860K is tier 3 CPU for now, you will have better performance with Intel Core i3 (tier 2) at about the same price.
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QUOTE(mothangel @ Nov 2 2015, 06:17 PM)
[Budget] 3k

[Purpose] Gaming + Freelance Video Editing

[Hardwares that will be re-use] WD 1TB Black / PSU / Monitor

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Most of the adobes / Final Cut Pro 7 & X / Various genres of games from dota, dayz, arma, h1z1, team fortress 2, fallout

[Personal preferences] Need no OC. Regarding GPU dont think 2gb VRAM is enough nowadays ?

Nvidia + Intel please. Air con room.

[Location] Selangor
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QUOTE(mothangel @ Nov 2 2015, 09:14 PM)
Silverstone ST70EF.
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Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 875
MSI B150M Bazooka D4 - RM 409
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 289
Zotac GTX970 4GB GDDR5 Reference - RM 1350
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 139

Total: RM 3062 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

You can top up another RM 130 to get a non-reference GTX970 (Zotac is the cheapest from Techview) which runs cooler than reference card.
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QUOTE(st4Lk3rz @ Nov 2 2015, 11:05 PM)
hey terence, thanks for your suggestion. can you suggest me something for 3k without the monitor?
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Can fit Skylake with 3K budget without monitor but SSD has to be dropped out, else will over budget.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 875
MSI B150M Bazooka D4 - RM 409
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 289
Zotac GTX960 2GB GDDR5 ZT-90306-10M - RM 840
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 139

Total: RM 2966 (Techview price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(joscmh90 @ Nov 2 2015, 11:13 PM)
Sifu-sifu,

Wanted to upgrade my CPU & Mobo.

I'm currently using as below, and the CPU is bottlenecking my GPU (GTX 670) manage to OC till 3.8Ghz but the bottleneck is still there. Any suggestions ?

MSI MS7599 870-G45
Phenom II X4 955BE with HYPER 212+

Would really loved to use my CPU long-term (So that its still suitable for better GPUs in the future)

Budget around 1 - 1.5k, should I get an aftermarket cooler as well ?
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If you want to adopt to latest Intel Skylake DDR4 platform,

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 875
MSI B150M Bazooka D4 - RM 409
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR4 2400MHz RAM - RM 289

Total: RM 1573 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

Stock cooler runs fine, if temperature is not satisfied, only get 3rd party cooler.

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