Transporting amphibious force isn't the same as transporting container.

Washington decided to send F-15Cs way before the shoot down of SU-24. So how is additional F-15Cs justifiable to fight ISIS? Has someone not just said ISIS doesn't have airforce?? How is F-15C helpful in the event of a down aircraft? How is additional F-15Cs affected by the deployment of S400, especially when the decision to send additional F-15Cs was made before he deployment of S400??

Washington sent F-15C in early November immediately after first incursion (that was publicly announced) by Russian fighters into Turkey airspace. Given that its not difficult to avoid another country's airspace, not like Syria very kecik and cramped, what's the point behind Russia's intrusion seems to be the better question.

S400 changes the game because its Russia's most advanced SAM and no aircraft has a counter against SAM other than ejecting flares and hoping it misses. The only way is to destroy the SAM with bombs and as you say, F-15C doesn't do air to ground. Its literally a gun against which there is no defence. You like walking around with a gun pointed at you, trusting that the user won't make *another* MH17 mistake?

It like waiting for pig for fly with current financial situation.

Impossible to get  not to mention  sgpv batch 3 which is also said to be in plan

That still doesn't explain your earlier post relating S400 to the stationing of F-15Cs. Now you yourself said F-15Cs were sent in early November. So again, how is the deployment of S400 affect or cause Washington's decision to deploy additional F-15Cs?

Actually sgpv originally plan to have s100 uav.
They even tested it on the French gowind ship.
Later malaysia did not proceed as it might go above budget.
There are some rumors it might some sponsor for uav system.
So many twist and turn. 

Is Washington deploying "additional" F-15Cs?

MOSCOW, December 1. /TASS/. Reports claiming that a Turkish submarine appeared near a Russian ship in the Dardanelles Strait on Tuesday on purpose are far-fetched, because shipping in this area is very busy and the submarine’s encounter with a Russian naval ship was purely accidental, a military-diplomatic source told TASS.

Earlier, Turkey’s daily Milliyet said that a Turkish submarine earlier in the day encountered a large cargo and passenger transport ship of the Russian Navy - The Yauza - when it was passing through the Dardanelles Strait from the Aegean Sea to the Sea of Marmara. The Russian ship was escorted by a Turkish coast guard boat, just as the protocols require. The Turkish submarine appeared near it at the exit to the Sea of Marmara. The submarine was on the move in a surface position. It passed by the Russian transport ship several hundred meters away in the opposite direction, towards the Aegean Sea, the daily said.

"This is an absolutely far-fetched speculation. The strait is a two-way street. It was sheer coincidence that a submarine sailed past a Russian transport ship. Naval ships and ships of other fleets pass through the strait in either direction, too. According to the law of the sea any submarines are obliged to move in the surface position. And it is only natural that various civilian ships may be coming their way," the source said.

The ships move past each other in accordance with the international convention regarding the regime of the straits (the Montreux Convention). In such complex situations for navigation submarines will never accompany other ships.

S400 changes the game because its Russia's most advanced SAM and no aircraft has a counter against SAM other than ejecting flares and hoping it misses. The only way is to destroy the SAM with bombs and as you say, F-15C doesn't do air to ground. Its literally a gun against which there is no defence. You like walking around with a gun pointed at you, trusting that the user won't make *another* MH17 mistake?

Flares only work against IR-guided missiles, which are usually used by MANPADS or short-range AA missiles like AIM-9 Sidewinder. S-400 is radar guided, flares would do diddly squat against it. What you do is you could try to trick its radar by active countermeasures (ECM pod) or passive countermeasures (Chaff & decoy dispenser).

Also, When suppressing enemy air defenses, attackers usually aim at the radar system. Very rarely do 'Wild Weasel'-type SEAD mission aim at the missiles or AA guns themselves. Air defense radars are more fragile and transmit powerful emissions that can be targeted from long-range by Anti-Radiation missiles like AGM-88 HARM missile. After the radar is down, then only you have the option to used bombs against the now-disabled SAM missiles, although this can be a dangerous option, as sometimes the battery still has MANPADS or optically aimed missiles & AA guns for short range work.

No1 talk rumors about US offering m109 sph to malaysia?
I heard it was quite cheaps as well for 30units.

2nd hand or new? And for how much for all 30?

No1 talk rumors about US offering m109 sph to malaysia?
I heard it was quite cheaps as well for 30units.

Oto Melara 76mm Super Rapid Gun with stealth cupola finally installed on the Indonesian Navy first Sigma PKR 10514.



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