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post Sep 20 2015, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(patt_sue @ Sep 19 2015, 08:04 PM)
Repelling between PLAN heli and KD Kelantan....

Btw, what type of heli is this? almost similar to heli owned by mmea
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Pakistan, China in pact to keep JF-17 tech away from US, India: report

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China and Pakistan have a pact to keep the technology of their jointly developed JF-17 Thunder multirole combat aircraft away from the United States and India because of its superiority to America's F-16 fighter jet, claims the Beijing-based Sina Military Network.

The Block II variation of the JF-17, known as the FC-1 Xiaolong by China, recently entered into service for the "Minhas" No. 2 squadron of the Pakistan Air Force (PAF). The new and improved configuration of the lightweight fighter jet is said to include improved avionics and better software, as well as a fixed air-to-air refueling probe.

Minhas is the third PAF squadron to be upgraded to the JF-17, which is expected to replace the F-7P, a Chinese-made fighter that can be equipped with C-802A anti-ship missiles.

The JF-17 features an aerodynamic shape similar to the US Navy's F/A-18 and is powered by a high fuel efficiency Russian RD-93 afterburning turbofan. The aircraft's flight performance is said to be far superior to that of second-generation fighters, with its climb rate, maneuvering speed and acceleration making up for a relatively low top speed of Mach 1.6.

While the RD-93 is not regarded as advanced given it was originally developed for the Soviet MiG-29 fighter, the engine is considered stable and reliable, with PAF air commodore Khalid Mahmood, head of the JF-17 sales and marketing team, adding that they have never experienced any problems with it after more than 7,000 hours of use.

Chinese engineers are reportedly continuing to look for ways to lighten the weight and streamline the aircraft. One new advancement is pairing an RD-93 with a so-called divergent supersonic air intake, which is said to be lighter, easier to maintain, and minimizes the JF-17's already low radar signals.

Recent photos of the JF-17 show the jet carrying two CM-400AKG high-speed air-to-surface missiles. Mahmood notes that the aircraft features flexible weapons stations that enables the JF-17 to be equipped with any weapon purchased on the open market.

Though the JF-17 can carry up to four SD-10 radar-guided air-to-air missiles, Mahmood states that the preference of the PAF is to use the space and weight for additional fuel tanks. The standard configuration of the JF-17 is therefore currently two SD-10s and two to three 1,000-liter external fuel tanks in addition to the 800-liter tank in the abdomen of the aircraft, he added.

According to the Sina Military report, expert comparisons between the JF-17 and the US F-16 have the Chinese-Pakistani aircraft dominating, adding that it is akin to a featherweight knocking out a heavyweight. The US has tried to get its hands on the JF-17 to analyze why that is the case but has been turned down by Pakistan because of a deal with China to never share the jet's technology with the US or India, the report added.

http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subclas...01&MainCatID=11
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post Sep 20 2015, 06:14 PM

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Depend on the type of armor and type of gun. K9 use steel armor, while Primus use aluminium armor. Some SPG like PzH 2000 carry a heavier 52 caliber gun instead of usual 39 caliber like most SPH.
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Although aluminium is lighter than steel, at the same time you need 3x the thickness of a steel plate to have the same level of protection. Dunno how much exactly does aluminium armor is worth it in terms of manufacturing capability and costs in contrast to steel armor. Also heard aluminium armor more vulnerable to HEAT warhead too, something have to do with having a lower temperature threshold making it easier for the plasma jetstream to puncture through.
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4 Kazakh soldiers drown during military exercise

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4 of 6 Kazakhstan Army BTR-80 APCs with 52 soldiers sank during an amphibious training exercise on Sept 18. Luckily they were close to shore so most of the soldiers were rescued. 4 drowned.

Kazakhstan's Defense Ministry says at least four soldiers drowned when four armored vehicles sank during a military exercise on the Caspian coast.

The ministry said in a statement that the accident occurred Friday as the nation's military forces were practicing a landing near the Caspian city of Aktau. During the exercise, four BTR-80 armored personnel carriers were swept by a high waves and sank.

Kazakhstan's Defense Minister Imangali Tasmagambetov ordered a probe.


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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Sep 20 2015, 06:14 PM)
Although aluminium is lighter than steel, at the same time you need 3x the thickness of a steel plate to have the same level of protection. Dunno how much exactly does aluminium armor is worth it in terms of manufacturing capability and costs in contrast to steel armor. Also heard aluminium armor more vulnerable to HEAT warhead too, something have to do with having a lower temperature threshold making it easier for the plasma jetstream to puncture through.
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aluminium alone is very weak against rpg and I doubt it can withstand HE shells either, deswai modern aluminium armor now comes with another layer ceramic armor

something to think about as rpg equipped infantry section is becoming a norm nowadays, including ours


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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Sep 20 2015, 09:22 PM)
aluminium alone is very weak against rpg and I doubt it can withstand HE shells either, deswai modern aluminium armor now comes with another layer ceramic armor

something to think about as rpg equipped infantry section is becoming a norm nowadays, including ours
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if your artillery is under RPG fire you're doing something wrong! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Sep 20 2015, 10:05 PM)
if your artillery is under RPG fire you're doing something wrong! biggrin.gif
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Counter-battery fire is also a concern for artillery units. Having decent protection is important in SPG design, if not you only have is an artillery gun on tracks.
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Sep 20 2015, 10:31 PM)
Counter-battery fire is also a concern for artillery units. Having decent protection is important in SPG design, if not you only have is an artillery gun on tracks.
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Yeah I know. The joke is about other kinds of fire.
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Sep 20 2015, 10:36 PM)
Yeah I know. The joke is about other kinds of fire.
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Not really a joke though, infiltration units like SF or irregular units can knock out artillery units with hit-and-run raids, especially field artillery not inside the protection of an FOB.

Assault on Brecourt manor on D-day by 101st airborne is a good example.
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Milestone for Gripen fighters in Thailand: 5000 flight hours

IN BUSINESS NEWS, SWEDEN, THAILAND / BY JOAKIM PERSSON / ON SEPTEMBER 20, 2015 AT 23:14 /

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The first batch of Gripen fighters for the Royal Thai Air Force (RTAF) was delivered in February 2011, reports SAAB Defense. Since then, the Gripen squadron at Wing 7 in Surat Thani has been up in the air a lot and employed at a number of different missions. In mid September 2015 a great milestone was reached when they passed 5000 flight hours with their twelve Gripen. It is an achievement made possible by a combination of many factors.

“I’m proud of our personnel competency and very satisfied with the jets. Our personnel at the squadron, both pilots and technicians, have contributed a lot to make this happen. The fact that everyone is still new to the system means that we have to stop operating and spend some time for education as well. Another important factor is of course the aircraft availability to fly every day. Ever since we received the jets, we have been able to maintain a high serviceability of the fleet. Personally, I think we could have been flying even more than this but we have to keep the hours within the service contract,” says Group Captain Chareon Watanasrimongkol, Chief of Staff Wing 7.

The 5000-hour milestone was celebrated on September 10 with a ceremony at Wing 7 where the Thai Gripen fighters are based. Air Marshal AmpholImbua, Commander Directorate of Logistics, RTAF and Head of RTAF Gripen Project Procurement Administrative Office, together with a delegation from the Saab office in Bangkok and other invited guests joined the ceremony, which included a spectacular Gripen air display.

“I’ve said it many times to many people that Gripen is a pilot friendly aircraft. The flexibility in changing from one mission to another is just a matter of one click of switch. For RTAF, I think Gripen has what it takes regarding our needs and requirements. We’ve conducted various types of missions and the outcome has been highly satisfied. It has also been done with minimum fuzz, which would not have been the case with the old platforms,” says Chareon Watanasrimongkol.

RTAF Gripen’s recent deployments include a reconnaissance mission in the Andaman Sea to locate any illegal migrations. RTAF Gripen and Saab 340 Erieye AEW&C have been a part of this mission since June this year.

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“Our task has been to find suspicious ships in our designated Area of Operations (AOR) and then report their location, the heading, the speed and the time of detection to the appointed operations center who will take necessary actions. It has been very simple for us to perform our tasks since the aircraft are very flexible, or I should say very capable of adaptation,” says Chareon Watanasrimongkol.


http://scandasia.com/milestone-for-gripen-...0-flight-hours/

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Sep 20 2015, 10:53 PM)
Not really a joke though, infiltration units like SF or irregular units can knock out artillery units with hit-and-run raids, especially field artillery not inside the protection of an FOB.

Assault on Brecourt manor on D-day by 101st airborne is a good example.
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if that's the case armor n lightly armored makes not much of a diff
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Sep 21 2015, 11:01 AM)
if that's the case armor n lightly armored makes not much of a diff
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Thats true, and thats for the army to assess the risk, perhaps balancing against factors like transportability, magazine size, etc.

The bit about SF infiltrators is actually quite relevant. Some countries plan to deploy SF units via air assault ahead of their army to cause trouble behind enemy lines. Artillery, supplies and depots would make great targets. Maybe thats why these countries also take care to armour their SPGs well.

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