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Trevor Keegan
post Apr 17 2009, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(exshige @ Apr 17 2009, 10:13 AM)
why is it not affecting the employees' tax? the item G suppose to be exempted allowances figure of the employee. without it, our taxable income is higher.
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Hi,

Section G is there only to declare the fact that the amount is exempt....and does not affect your income. It basically saves you from having to provide additional documentation to prove that it is exempted.

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For your information, the IRB allows companies who have difficulties to calculate the tax-exempt income (Item G of the EA Form) to use the old formst of Form EA (without Item G). These companies are required to submit to the IRB the details of Item G by 30 May 2009. Since it does not affect the employees' tax, this information need not be disclosed to the employees.

Gtchye, You are right and I had stated earlier that the use of the new EA form was optional. However, what I was trying to say (but didn't do it very well), was:
1. The Company must disclose the full amount of the allowance (including travel allowance) in the eluan-eluan in the EA (irrespective of whether you are using the new EA form or the old EA form)
2. If the old EA form is used, then the LHDN provides the HK-2 for the taxpayer to workout the taxable employment income.

Example:
Person A receives RM10,000 in Travel Allowance during the year. Section 2 in the EA for would show RM10,000 (and if the new EA was used) would be shown there. If the new EA form is used, then the exempted portion will be shown in section G.

However, please note that the EA form does not show the income with the exempted amount removed! This means that if you are taking the income directly from the EA form.....you may be declaring your income as being higher than it should be.

TAXSAYA, automatically takes the section G (if you have it in the EA form, otherwise you need to be able to prove that the amount is exempted) into account, so that you do not need to worry about recalculating things in the HK2.

Hope that helps.

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post Apr 17 2009, 03:46 PM

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If you get travelling allowances RM6000 and your company add that figure to your total PENGGAJIAN...that's totally WRONG !!!
Either put in Section G or don't add to PENGGAJIAN

Tell your HR to fix it

This post has been edited by ronnie: Apr 17 2009, 05:51 PM
Trevor Keegan
post Apr 17 2009, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Apr 17 2009, 03:46 PM)
If you get travelling allowances RM6000 and your company add that figure to your total PENGGAJIAN...that's totally WRONG !!!
Either put in Section G or don't add to PENGGAJIAN

Tell you HR to fix it
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RONNIE IS CORRECT! I stand corrected on my earlier post, which was regretably due to some miscommunication with our advisors.

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post Apr 18 2009, 02:38 PM

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Hi...
I've a question on dividends received on shares and REITS.

Assuming that we are already in a tax bracket that is higher than the rate deducted as source. eg.

- REIT distribution has been deducted 15% at source but our tax bracket is 20%, do we need to declare the REIT dividend as taxable income?

- shares dividend has been deducted 25% at source but our tax bracket is 27%, do we still need to declared the dividend as taxable income?

Appreciate any advice on this... thanka a million
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post Apr 19 2009, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(low_yater @ Apr 18 2009, 02:38 PM)
Hi...
I've a question on dividends received on shares and REITS.

Assuming that we are already in a tax bracket that is higher than the rate deducted as source. eg.

- REIT distribution has been deducted  15% at source but our tax bracket is 20%, do we need to declare the REIT dividend as taxable income?

- shares dividend has been deducted 25% at source but our tax bracket is 27%, do we still need to declared the dividend as taxable income?

Appreciate any advice on this... thanka a million
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REIT is treated as FINAL tax therefore no need to declare as taxable income and no refunds will be paid back.

For dividends from shares either 25/26% you will have to declare it and can claim back refund if aplicable. If you are at 27% then you will have to pay the extra 2 or 1%. REmenber if did not declare and later detected at audit then penalty is at minimum 45% of tax.
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post Apr 19 2009, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Apr 17 2009, 03:46 PM)
If you get travelling allowances RM6000 and your company add that figure to your total PENGGAJIAN...that's totally WRONG !!!
Either put in Section G or don't add to PENGGAJIAN

Tell your HR to fix it
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i thought once an item is taxable, it consider as earning ?
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post Apr 19 2009, 06:32 PM

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too many pages here, i am sorry if i ask the double question as TS did asked b4.

as received an article mentioned that the stamp duty can be exemption for buying house with less than RM250k, but however in either E-filing or manual Borang eB i couldnt find the column for me to fill in this.

anyone has the idea?
cos i only able to found an similar article from below source, but no mentioned where to fill in the column.

Stamp Duty Exemption Order dan Explanation
http://www.hasil.org.my/english/eng_dutisetem.asp
http://www.hasil.org.my/cP/upload/News/pengecualianno6.pdf
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post Apr 19 2009, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(ohho_poon @ Apr 19 2009, 06:32 PM)
too many pages here, i am sorry if i ask the double question as TS did asked b4.

as received an article mentioned that the stamp duty can be exemption for buying house with less than RM250k, but however in either E-filing or manual Borang eB i couldnt find the column for me to fill in this.

anyone has the idea?
cos i only able to found an similar article from below source, but no mentioned where to fill in the column.

Stamp Duty Exemption Order dan Explanation
http://www.hasil.org.my/english/eng_dutisetem.asp
http://www.hasil.org.my/cP/upload/News/pengecualianno6.pdf
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The stamp duty is paid when your S&P agreement is sent for stamping. If you engaged a lawyer for the S&P the stamp duty is paid to the lawyer and the lawyer will pay the duty on your behalf to the stamp office.

You will not need to pay the stamp duty for the S&P to your lawyer if it is exempted.


This post has been edited by gilabola: Apr 19 2009, 07:36 PM
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post Apr 19 2009, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(gilabola @ Apr 19 2009, 07:33 PM)
The stamp duty is paid when your S&P agreement is sent for stamping.  If you engaged a lawyer for the S&P the stamp duty is paid to the lawyer and the lawyer will pay the duty on your behalf to the stamp office.

You will not need to pay the stamp duty for the S&P to your lawyer if it is exempted.
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sorry, i am noob on that, in such case do i need to fill in anything in the eB form?
and how do i really exempted from there?
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post Apr 19 2009, 10:19 PM

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Hi guys, just wondering the personal relief of 8000rm, what's the content of this???? Or does everyone automatically gets this without any receipts???

Also can clarify that, for a single guy, bascially the most common things to claim is : computer for 3000rm (or 3500rm?), and 1000rm for magazines, and 300rm for sports shoes, and maybe that personal relief of 8000rm if I didn't misunderstand it.
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QUOTE(T_flash @ Apr 19 2009, 10:19 PM)
Hi guys, just wondering the personal relief of 8000rm, what's the content of this???? Or does everyone automatically gets this without any receipts???

Also can clarify that, for a single guy, bascially the most common things to claim is : computer for 3000rm (or 3500rm?), and 1000rm for magazines, and 300rm for sports shoes, and maybe that personal relief of 8000rm if I didn't misunderstand it.
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very much dependent on yrself... normally ppl will claim for parents medical, personal insurance etc....
you should make it into more details to save back yr money
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post Apr 19 2009, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(penangmee @ Apr 19 2009, 11:35 AM)

For dividends from shares either 25/26% you will have to declare it and can claim back refund if aplicable. If you are at 27% then you will have to pay the extra 2 or 1%. REmenber if did not declare and later detected at audit then penalty is at minimum 45% of tax.
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Is it true that all dividends have to be declared? Someone did tell me that I do not need to declare the dividends if I've no intention of claiming a refund or when dividend is taxed the same rate as my tax bracket. Can someone clarify this?

Also, on sporting equpment tax relief, are racquets included? One article did say that only 'consumables', i.e. balls, shuttlecocks, etc, is claimable whereas 'long lasting' equipment such as racquet is not included.

Thanks
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post Apr 20 2009, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(T_flash @ Apr 19 2009, 10:19 PM)
Hi guys, just wondering the personal relief of 8000rm, what's the content of this???? Or does everyone automatically gets this without any receipts???

Also can clarify that, for a single guy, bascially the most common things to claim is : computer for 3000rm (or 3500rm?), and 1000rm for magazines, and 300rm for sports shoes, and maybe that personal relief of 8000rm if I didn't misunderstand it.
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yes rm8000 is automatically given to everyone as personal relief...

as for the rest, exemption is given provided with receipt which means if you buy a PC for RM2,000 you can only claim RM2,000 and not max rm3,000.. same goes with the other exemptions such as magazine, parents and sport equipments (shoes does not count as equipment and not exempted)..

basically for a single guy, you are relieved of that personal RM8,000 and EPF own contributions..the rest is dependent on your actual purchases..
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post Apr 20 2009, 10:08 AM

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Here's the difference in terms

1. Tax exempted amount means you don't need to put in the Borang BE/B.
2. Tax relief amount only need to put in borang BE/B.
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post Apr 20 2009, 12:10 PM

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I was referring to the situation when lack of receipts really.
1.Personal relief
2.Computer 3000rm
3. Sports equipment 300rm or 350rm?
4. Parents insurance ? max 5000rm?

what are other common things to claim, as a single guy.

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post Apr 20 2009, 01:24 PM

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if dun have receipt, pls dun cheat ... later spend few years in jail ...

you can do donation and health screening. sports is rm300
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post Apr 20 2009, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(T_flash @ Apr 20 2009, 12:10 PM)
I was referring to the situation when lack of receipts really.
1.Personal relief
2.Computer 3000rm
3. Sports equipment 300rm or 350rm?
4. Parents insurance ? max 5000rm?

what are other common things to claim, as a single guy.
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1. Personal relief - don't need receipt
2. Computer - need receipt for the year of assessment.
3. Sports equipment - RM300 also need receipt
4. Parents medical - max RM5000

All receipts must be kept for 7 years.

You can buy more medical insurance to claim up to RM3,000
Do donation
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post Apr 20 2009, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(T_flash @ Apr 20 2009, 12:10 PM)
I was referring to the situation when lack of receipts really.
1.Personal relief
2.Computer 3000rm
3. Sports equipment 300rm or 350rm?
4. Parents insurance ? max 5000rm?

what are other common things to claim, as a single guy.
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parents insurance? does that count under parents medical? hmm.. hmm.gif
Trevor Keegan
post Apr 20 2009, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(attahun @ Apr 20 2009, 02:43 PM)
parents insurance? does that count under parents medical? hmm.. hmm.gif
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No. Parents medical can only be claimed if it is from a certified Medical Practitioner.

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post Apr 20 2009, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(cheezels21 @ Apr 19 2009, 11:18 PM)
Is it true that all dividends have to be declared? Someone did tell me that I do not need to declare the dividends if I've no intention of claiming a refund or when dividend is taxed the same rate as my tax bracket. Can someone clarify this?

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I have the same question also. Dividend do we need to include HK3?
I am having problem because some voucher dont have warrant numbers.

I only know REIT no need to declare.

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