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vin_ann
post Jan 1 2009, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(attahun @ Jan 1 2009, 02:06 PM)
yes its good that streamyx bill can claim for exemption..

by having exemption, of course it is your expenses, but that expenses will not be taxed, which means if total income RM2.5K/month = RM30K/year, only exemption if 11% KWSP and RM8K yearly expenses, your total tax would be RM86.00

but if streamyx bill is allowed for exemption, using same example as above and streamyx bill RM100/month = RM1.2K/year, your total tax would only be RM50.00; that's quite a difference right, especially when it helps to lower your tax bracket.


Added on January 1, 2009, 2:17 pm
hehe sorry again, i still dont get u... tongue.gif total income per year of more than RM2500 (after deductions) is taxable, in this case only 1% = RM25. but with rebate RM350, it may seem that it is not taxable. but this rebate might be increased,reduced or taken away by the government so it doesn't mean that the income is not taxable. u have to declare your income if you have monthly salary.

and again based on my previous example, after minus rebate and deductions, a person having salary of at least RM2300/month =  RM27,600 would have to pay tax..lower than that is covered by the personal rebate.

if yearly salary is RM24,907 don't have to pay any tax as it is covered by the rebate. please correct me if i'm wrong.

p/s: ok i done a bit more of calculations, if your salary is RM2233.33/month = RM26,800 / year, kwsp 11% and RM8K relief, your income tax would be RM0.59 tongue.gif
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so, the streamyx exemption in your example will become realised? or have to wait for ruling to come out in more details?
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post Jan 2 2009, 10:25 AM

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Wondering whether Car and Housing allowance can fall under the category "Petrol and traveling allowance" and "Subsides for interests for house and motor vehicles..."
attahun
post Jan 2 2009, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Jan 1 2009, 06:29 PM)
so, the streamyx exemption in your example will become realised? or have to wait for ruling to come out in more details?
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hehe..of course have to wait for government ruling. am actually waiting for sample of BE2008 from LHDN to update my income tax calculator. tongue.gif
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post Jan 3 2009, 10:28 PM

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Tax relief for sports and fitness equipment still valid for year 2009 assessment?

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post Jan 4 2009, 02:11 PM

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All these apply to foreigner too?? so called expat
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post Jan 4 2009, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 3 2009, 10:28 PM)
Tax relief for sports and fitness equipment still valid for year 2009 assessment?
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Should be. As far as I know, the G didn't say that it was only for a year.

QUOTE(T_flash @ Jan 4 2009, 02:11 PM)
All these apply to foreigner too?? so called expat
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Expats working in malaysia, who does not fulfill the tax residence condition is taxable at a flat rate of 28%. They do not have any personal relief to claim. But then they have to work for at least 3 months to be taxable (if im not mistaken).

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post Jan 4 2009, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(attahun @ Jan 1 2009, 02:06 PM)
yes its good that streamyx bill can claim for exemption..

by having exemption, of course it is your expenses, but that expenses will not be taxed, which means if total income RM2.5K/month = RM30K/year, only exemption if 11% KWSP and RM8K yearly expenses, your total tax would be RM86.00

but if streamyx bill is allowed for exemption, using same example as above and streamyx bill RM100/month = RM1.2K/year, your total tax would only be RM50.00; that's quite a difference right, especially when it helps to lower your tax bracket.
You are wrong man.
You can only claim streamyx IF ONLY your employer provides such benefit for you.


QUOTE(andy_lhc @ Jan 1 2009, 02:38 PM)
hmm.gif does anyone know what would be the maximum amount we can claim for internet subscription ?

n looking at the attachment, does it mean we can only claim if our phone bills exceed RM300?
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bro, those are the benefits provided by your employer.
You cannot claim it if it is not provided by your employer.


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To encourage employers to provide more benefits to their employees and
to assist in reducing cost of living, it is proposed that employees be given tax
exemption on allowances, benefits in kind and perquisites received from
employers as follows:
i. petrol card or petrol allowance or travel allowance between the
home and work place up to RM2,400 a year;
ii. petrol card or petrol allowance or travel allowance and toll card for
official duties up to RM6,000 a year;
iii. allowance or fees for parking;
iv. meal allowance;
v. allowance or subsidies for childcare of up to RM2,400 a year;
vi. telephone and mobile phone, telephone bills, pager, personal data
assistant (PDA) and internet subscription;
vii. employers’ own goods provided free of charge or at discounted
value where the value of the discount does not exceed RM1,000 a
year;
viii. employers’ own services provided free or at a discount provided
such benefits are not transferable;
ix. subsidies on interest on loans totaling up to RM300,000 for
housing, passenger motor vehicles and education. The exemption
be given to existing and new loans;
x. medical benefits exempted from tax be extended to include
expenses on maternity and traditional medicines such as ayurvedic
and acupuncture; and
xi. existing perquisites be extended to awards related to innovation,
productivity and efficiency such as the Six Sigma Award and the
exemption be increased from RM1,000 to RM2,000 a year.
The above exemptions are not extended to directors of controlled
companies, sole proprietors and partnerships.
Expenses on allowance, benefits in kind and perquisites provided by
employers be given full deduction even though such benefits are not stipulated in
the service contract of the employee.
All the above proposals are effective from year of assessment 2008
except for proposal (i) which is effective from year of assessment 2008 to year of
assessment 2010.


Well explained in Budget 2009
Refer here (APPENDIX 3 page 6-7)

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post Jan 4 2009, 06:05 PM

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@roy918 - I think I got it now..Thanks... biggrin.gif

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attahun
post Jan 5 2009, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(roy918 @ Jan 4 2009, 04:34 PM)
You are wrong man.
You can only claim streamyx IF ONLY your employer provides such benefit for you.
sorry bro, dont see where i am wrong.. tongue.gif i just said its good IF streamyx can get exemption.. cheers! blush.gif
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post Jan 6 2009, 10:50 AM

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anyone know which column to fill in for sports equipment ?

http://www.hasil.org.my/cP/upload/Form/Nya...orangBE2007.pdf

http://www.hasil.org.my/cP/upload/Form/Nyata/NotaBE2007.pdf

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post Jan 6 2009, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(clsiluf @ Jan 6 2009, 10:50 AM)
That's for the year 2007 right? I don't see BE form for 2008 posted on LHDN website yet. Anyone know roughly when it'll be available?
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post Jan 6 2009, 12:15 PM

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Usually February like that...
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post Jan 6 2009, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 1 2009, 09:21 AM)
3. Those claiming for medical benefits could also enjoy tax relief for maternity expenses and buying and seeking traditional medicines and services respectively. They include ayurvedic and acupuncture treatments.
How does this work ?
If my wife gives birth, can I claim under maternity expenses ?
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post Jan 6 2009, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(attahun @ Jan 5 2009, 08:53 AM)
sorry bro, dont see where i am wrong.. tongue.gif  i just said its good IF streamyx can get exemption.. cheers!  blush.gif
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Opss...sorry man, didn't see the "IF" tongue.gif tongue.gif

QUOTE(ronnie @ Jan 6 2009, 04:07 PM)
How does this work ?
If my wife gives birth, can I claim under maternity expenses  ?
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Refer my previous reply - item x (remember to read 1st sentence in the quote).
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post Jan 7 2009, 10:47 AM

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Fitness equipment .. unsure.gif

Does that apply for monthly gym membership ?


Added on January 7, 2009, 11:09 am
QUOTE(attahun @ Dec 31 2008, 05:12 PM)
sorry don't quite get u..do u mean RM24,907/year is taxable then? i calculate base on my calculator so might be my mistake so just want to clarify..

anyway should register and declare even though no tax for the year...reason is to save u from trouble when they audit you and suddenly realized you never declare your salary, then 'kena' because of not declaring your salary...so income tax must still be filed.

Another reason is that when you start to get PCB (potongan cukai berjadual) and sometimes you are over-deducted, you can only claim back the extra deductions if your past tax declaration is settled, so u don't want to end up having problem in this.
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Still quite blur on the tax thingy lol. rclxub.gif

Relief = Reduce my taxable income & claim those magazines, books, pc etc etc

Rebate = ??

Example my gross income is 35k, and after minus EPF 11% = my total nett income is RM31,150 (w/o tax)

During the 12 months period, I pay tax every month except maybe few months...

So how to count is, RM31150 - RM8000(relief) = RM23150 (taxable income)

From this 23150, how I calculate what is the total tax amount I should pay ? And how to compare from my payslip whether I overpay or not ?

After calculate that, Then i claim the relief for my magazines etc etc using receipt right ?

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post Jan 7 2009, 11:29 AM

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Have tested with your calculator bro. Make life easier

From the summary at bottom, total we have to pay ... don't we already pay by deducted salary each month ?


I wonder does many of you guys put exactly information on your income ... cos if income high, have to pay more tax ...
or you guys just simply put low salary and exclude the allowances


How about the relief like mag etc ?

and do many of you guys overpaid or underpaid your tax to gov ?
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post Jan 7 2009, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(J'Daniel @ Jan 7 2009, 11:29 AM)
@attahun

Have tested with your calculator bro. Make life easier

From the summary at bottom, total we have to pay ... don't we already pay by deducted salary each month ?
I wonder does many of you guys put exactly information on your income ... cos if income high, have to pay more tax ...
or you guys just simply put low salary and exclude the allowances
How about the relief like mag etc ?

and do many of you guys overpaid or underpaid your tax to gov ?
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You cannot put low salary and exclude the allowance. You have to put exactly as what your Borang EA states (as given by your employer), unless the Borang EA states income exempted...
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QUOTE(J'Daniel @ Jan 7 2009, 11:29 AM)
@attahun

Have tested with your calculator bro. Make life easier

From the summary at bottom, total we have to pay ... don't we already pay by deducted salary each month ?
I wonder does many of you guys put exactly information on your income ... cos if income high, have to pay more tax ...
or you guys just simply put low salary and exclude the allowances
How about the relief like mag etc ?

and do many of you guys overpaid or underpaid your tax to gov ?
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J'Daniel, thanx for trying out the calc, let me know if u find any errors or mistakes..since u've tried it, i guess don't need to answer your earlier questions.

For the monthly deductions, that is not yet the final amount of your tax, is called PCB (potongan cukai berjadual), u should put that under item F2 in my calculator. So from there u can see if you have been overdeducted or underdeducted. If you have "cukai terlebih bayar", then u can claim that back from LHDN.

As for the tax declaration, it must be backed-up by proof, which is the EA statement your company comes up with. For other exemptions/relief, also must have receipts and proof. Under the new system (sistem taksir sendiri STS), you must keep all receipts for a maximum duration of 7 years. If you are audited within the said period, you have to show them your proof of claims. If you are unable to show, they will fine you for 'mis'-declaring your tax.

after reading a bit i found out that if you do not declare your tax (regardless if you are taxable or not), you can be fined a certain amount, 1 guy actually was fined RM50 + interest.. Another story was an old pensioner who wanted to bring out his EPF money was audited by LHDN and was fined quite a certain amount from his EPF money due to no salary declaration..so be wary.. tongue.gif
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post Jan 7 2009, 06:09 PM

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i heard those like reimbursement like parking from company can be relieved as well, is it true ?
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QUOTE(DarReNz @ Jan 7 2009, 06:09 PM)
i heard those like reimbursement like parking from company can be relieved as well, is it true ?
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Reimbursement of parking fee on business purposes shouldn't be taxed at the first place, that's not source of income, unless you enjoy the parking... hmm.gif

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