Heat / Sound Insulation for All Car, Insulflex, Superlon..................
Heat / Sound Insulation for All Car, Insulflex, Superlon..................
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Oct 7 2007, 09:59 AM
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mind to share roughly how much is the insuflex thingy? might want to buy it
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Oct 7 2007, 10:14 AM
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15,182 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Damansara Heights |
Nice work, engine bay also you put...
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Oct 7 2007, 12:27 PM
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784 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Gombak | Taiping @ Looking Through |
nice work there,bro!btw, how u put those insuflex at the engine bay??for my car,very hard ma...even plotong s/c don't wat to help wif it.haha...
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Oct 7 2007, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(mooscar @ Oct 7 2007, 09:59 AM) i got it from syarikat perniagaan acr sdn. bhd.they are at 97, jalan 20/7, paramount garden, 46300 petaling jaya u can give them a call 0378740254 78740258 78769521 so far these guys are the most reasonable price wise the 1/4inch sheet (4feet by 5feet) was 10.50 a piece for the 3/8inch sheet i paid rm143 for 1 roll (30feet by i think 4feet) 30 feet can do about 1.5 cars or thereabouts correction about the glue price...i said it was 10bucks a tin i actually got it for 14 a tin hehe sory my bad Added on October 7, 2007, 12:33 pm QUOTE(aizad02 @ Oct 7 2007, 12:27 PM) nice work there,bro!btw, how u put those insuflex at the engine bay??for my car,very hard ma...even plotong s/c don't wat to help wif it.haha... plotong s/c?wazat? for the engine firewall u have to unbolt everything thats attached to it then just let everything hang there (i didnt take out the brake servo coz that was messy...so i worked around it) everything else i unscrewed then once the firewall is clear,...then can start to trace the shape Added on October 7, 2007, 12:43 pm QUOTE(howiechoo @ Nov 25 2006, 01:35 AM) for low budget, better use bitumen strip....according to some dampening product seller, they may say bitumen are made for roof leaking purpose....but actually the bitumen will work...cant say 100% like dampening product..but at least it will make it 70-80% for the same thickness with much low cost......so if got budget then go for real dampening product while low budget, go for replacement product. about the tar roofing compound, u cant use it in a carinsuflex and superlon from same manufacturer? i not sure...but as i know some insulation are made in china and the weight are very light.....usually those material are harder and u can have a feel tat it will crack sometime... for bonnet, best if u use self adhesive...easier and more durable.....dunlop glue wont last long in such a hhigh temp area..... btw, y not save ur hassle by buying the self adhesive 1? don't u think dunlop glue will messup ur car and the smell is............... for floor, the best place to do is the center console area, wheel arch area and the boot area..... there are special tar strips made for cars (which i tot u were talking about jusnow the roofing compound melts in the heat if u use it in the door panels or roof...or anywhere where gravity plays a roll...when it gets hot, the tar will soften n it will slowly detach from the door panel after a while the proper tar strips can be gotten from the factory in nilai its about 400bucks a box of 20 pieces that can do 3 iswaras (4 doors each)...with some small pieces leftover This post has been edited by neosaint99: Oct 8 2007, 12:54 AM |
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Oct 7 2007, 04:27 PM
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If I can buy the tar strips from you can?
I used the tar strips under the bonnet too underneath the stock soundproof pad...it doesn't drop I think should be OK...try to get the tar strips for roofing purpose made in USA..difference not much compare to cheaper strips.. Thanks A LOT for the contact...that's damn cheap!! Insuflex or superlon? Added on October 7, 2007, 4:30 pm QUOTE(aizad02 @ Oct 7 2007, 12:27 PM) nice work there,bro!btw, how u put those insuflex at the engine bay??for my car,very hard ma...even plotong s/c don't wat to help wif it.haha... Do you think they want to help you out of nothing? Give them cigarettes or drinks la funny if you ask an authorised sc to do this kind of stuff..there should be some plastic clips to be removed to take out the stock padding under the bonnet.This post has been edited by hypermount: Oct 7 2007, 04:30 PM |
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Oct 7 2007, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(hypermount @ Oct 7 2007, 04:27 PM) If I can buy the tar strips from you can? sory broI used the tar strips under the bonnet too underneath the stock soundproof pad...it doesn't drop I think should be OK...try to get the tar strips for roofing purpose made in USA..difference not much compare to cheaper strips.. Thanks A LOT for the contact...that's damn cheap!! Insuflex or superlon? Added on October 7, 2007, 4:30 pm Do you think they want to help you out of nothing? Give them cigarettes or drinks la funny if you ask an authorised sc to do this kind of stuff..there should be some plastic clips to be removed to take out the stock padding under the bonnet. i finished up the tar strips d did my dad's, my bro's n my car ngam ngam i'll try to dig up the contact for you not sure who is holding the recipt the contact i gave is for selling the insuflex dont worry its lasts as mentioned...my dad's car almost 10years n its still flexible granted,...its not like brand new lar (the engine bay wan) but then its not crumbling or anything u can still like rub it or knock it n all n it will be fine just can feel that the surface has become abit harder i think its coz if all the dirt its exposed to in the engine bay coz the one in the booth still not prob nice n soft |
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Oct 7 2007, 07:16 PM
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neosaint99 - good job there i also done all except the firewall
for the floor why u didnt use 10mm thick insuflex? for the picture, i assume is 6mm rite? |
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Oct 8 2007, 12:36 AM
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QUOTE(feralee @ Oct 7 2007, 07:16 PM) neosaint99 - good job there i also done all except the firewall erm...i used 3/8inch for the floorfor the floor why u didnt use 10mm thick insuflex? for the picture, i assume is 6mm rite? that works out to about 9.53mm so i guess its the same as 10? u got any pics or ur work? would like to see other ppl's diy too can share experience here |
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Oct 9 2007, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Oct 7 2007, 12:31 PM) i got it from syarikat perniagaan acr sdn. bhd. Wau... that's cheap, i remember i buy 1 pcs of 1/4inch sheet b4, he charge me RM15 for that. think i should try urs. wonder is it still selling at the same price. hehehe....they are at 97, jalan 20/7, paramount garden, 46300 petaling jaya u can give them a call 0378740254 78740258 78769521 so far these guys are the most reasonable price wise the 1/4inch sheet (4feet by 5feet) was 10.50 a piece for the 3/8inch sheet i paid rm143 for 1 roll (30feet by i think 4feet) 30 feet can do about 1.5 cars or thereabouts |
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Oct 9 2007, 07:46 PM
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QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Oct 8 2007, 12:36 AM) erm...i used 3/8inch for the floor ahahahthat works out to about 9.53mm so i guess its the same as 10? u got any pics or ur work? would like to see other ppl's diy too can share experience here no digi cam actually the rough surface u should face down for better sound Absorption |
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Oct 9 2007, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE(feralee @ Oct 9 2007, 07:46 PM) this is what i read up and also from logical deduction:the rough surface should always face up CA is a 'contact adhesive' it needs surface area the rough surface will not stick well as there isnt as much surface area if it does,...then ALOT of glue was used coz it will need enough to fill the surface cells moisture retention will also be an issue should water ever get in i know its a closed cell system but a rough surface dries much slower than a smooth one coupled with the fact that it wont stick as uniformly as a smooth surface...the results isnt that good and about damping, i think u r basing it on a sound room for jamming concept perhaps? as far as sound waves go, the diff of the surface finish is too negligible to create diff damping effects the surface would have to be very irregular to have a significant diff this kind of sound insulation is not for sound wave absorption (i.e. vibrating air particles...which is wat a sound room wall does...deflects sound waves at off angles and also absorbing the kenetic energy of the air particles....thus dispersing them and as a result there is no echo and sound waves do not 'sustain' in the room as they dissipate very fast) this insulation is actually vibrational damping...i.e. it damps the vibration of the metal surface itself which inherently acts like the diaphram of a speaker....oscillating up n down thus transfering kenetic energy to the adjacent air particles thus creating sound waves....the insulation damps this vibration....thus creating weaker sound waves...and the result is ofcourse less noise.... This post has been edited by neosaint99: Oct 9 2007, 10:45 PM |
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Dec 26 2009, 04:49 PM
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Good job!! Great skills in handling the DIY ...
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Sep 12 2010, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Oct 3 2007, 04:24 PM) glass wool is hazardous to the respiratory system Bro, hope you still around..I must say it is a very impressive works, congrats. Do you mind to share is this kind of treatment (full soundproofing) is effective against the LMST sporty and very noisy muffler? I am still suing LMST which comes with the sporty exhaust and wanted to do something to make inside the car quite because to accommodate new born baby. Thanksu should use insuflex or superlon superlon is just basically the 'branded' version i'm not sure y ppl say insuflex is harder n can crack n all used it on my dad's car its been like almost 10 years still no prob just installed it on my car my bro helped me DIY all if do urself very cheap whole car less than 300 for bonnet, firewall, roof, entire floor, booth, and also including tar strips for the door panels i used 3/8inch for everything except my roof...which was 1/4 the 3/8 comes in a roll...4feet by how long u want the 1/4 comes in sheets....4x5feet here r some pics of wat i did i forgot to take pics of the roof by the time remembered i had fixed back the cover d didnt want to open it up just for the sake of taking a photo...hahaha and bonnet n firewall forgot to take too will take it soon n upload since its all still visible |
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