Hmm, what are the physio stuff have you done? Or rather what have you done so far to rectify your pain?

If you are consistently getting the same pain, visit a doctor that is familiar with sports injury. If you're already feeling pain by positioning your shoulders for pushing movements, then it could be something serious. But most of us here is not educated enough to really prescribe you with anything.

You should seek professional help that has the know how to assess your condition.

You can test it yourself with some help...

i didnt actually go to a proper physio. I only practice/exercise to the advise given by the doctor.(some hand movements and bend overs)
mostly i was on pain killer back then. but i found out painkillers actually slowdown muscle growth, i stopped taking it.

go home will watch the video. but from the thumbnail, i think the doctor did it to me always.
hold out my hands straight, then try to circle it etc, at one point i will scream. cos its fuken pain!!!!

Okay I really think you shouldn't be lifting at all. Get it fix first man

Yep, go see a specialist doctor like an orto and spend the next few months getting this 100% fixed. Only then start building round shoulders once pain free.

Sorry to be rude but please fking go visit a specialist doctor. Even doctor can't fix your problem online. You knew your shoulder can't grow because your shoulder pain when pressing heavy. So you are expecting forumers to give you solution to your shoulder pain?

Healthy shoulder >>> big shoulder.

thanks for the concern guys. but really, i dun wan go under the knife. yet i still wan nice shoulder.
i am worried that the doctor will tell me,"U cant lift bro!". then i kena be a fatass liao..

or if i change my objective to bruce lee kind of body instead?just go skinny ripped instead of arnold kind?
will it be better?

Why u keep repeat that "dun wan go under the knife" thing even when you havent seen a specialist and have no idea exactly what's wrong with your shoulder?
Even if you have some serious problem and have to go under the knife, and that knife fixes the problem... then what's wrong? It's for the good.

It's not like the orto will suddenly stab you with anesthesia, forcefully bind you to the bed, and start doing the surgery on you.

It's funny that you think that Bruce didn't lift.

Sry bro. Do u even read?
Its mentioned several times i have seen specialists.
And they are the one who ask me go operate Without guarantee it will fix my problem.

I thought he only practice kungfu till his body like that.

Weight lifting is part of most sports. A lot of them has great carry over to their performance in the sport.

Seriously, get it looked up. Not just to get buff or not, think about it in the long run... do you want this injury to haunt you as you get older? Imagine not being to lift your arm up to scratch your head.......

alright!
after much advices received here and out there, i will get it fixed asap.

i am getting older, and yes the pain got worst.
dayumz!!~

Sorry, saw at one point you did MRI. Honestly, the doctors u saw were like super weird.
The MRI seriously cannot see the problem? Normally MRI pinpoints it.

If it's 90% confirmed the pain is coming from pinched nerve, and you know you didn't tear your rotator cuff, you can see those super pro Chinese chiro sifus. I know 1 you can pm me ask.

first thing first, why not try and go for alternative approach i.e. seeing a chiropractor?

second, building muscle takes time. its all about progressive overload. if 4 kg's the max you can lift for now, then lift the 4 kg. its better than just complaining that you can't lift. if the 4 kg hurts, then lift 2 kg. if you're at a point that you can't even lift that weight, then you should not even do any sort of weight lifting and should focus on recovering properly first.

Shoulder is very much on genetics . If you have a narrow clavicles with high traps peak ,you going to have a hard time to develop those canon deltoid muscles .Also the insertion play a big role .

Raise that actually hits the medial delts directly and raise > press

Look at Larry Scott you will understand how i mean .Larry scott was born narrow and high peak traps .if you also noticed ,Arnold have the sloopy look .Having a body structure like this will have a hard time to look broad and wide .But the good side ,we have good traps peak .

Myself did tonnes of raise

How do you do your raises? reps, sets, progression?

instead of weights and risking the injury hit the pull up bar.... you will chisel the best proportionate shoulders , core , chest.

I'm gonna assume you have some form of impingement based on your "ball joint not smooth enough".

There are a few things that I would suggest you to do.

1) See a specialist and get a scan, not an ortho. Probably a sports physio or a good chiropractor(they dont just deal with the spine). Confirm there isn't any structural damage or tearing.
2) Once (1)'s done, if it's a form of impingement/lack of mobility, there's plenty of self help videos by Kelly Starrett. He even has a book "Becoming a Supple Leopard" that deals with problems that most lifters have.
3) This is purely optional, I have very bad impingement on my right shoulder from a car accident. I realize I aggravate it IF I sleep on it badly (so I sleep on a good pillow and stack it so my head and shoulder is perpendicular to each other) and I take a good amount of fish oil daily.

TLDR version,
1) Confirm with specialist no tearing and not a structural issue
2) Google Kelly Starrett Shoulder Impingement
3) Sleep properly

Disclaimer:- None of us are qualified doctors/specialists except 1 that I know of. So always work with a specialist instead.

3 times per week ,lean on a bench and start doing them .
12 reps .focus much on the pump .

Generally 5 sets above per workout .my body response to high volume.trying to bring them up .

This post has been edited by theCrab: Sep 30 2015, 12:17 AM

I hv the same problem on my right delts.so i substitute presses movement with wide grip upright row.u can go heavy with it.