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post Sep 14 2015, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(alpha33 @ Sep 12 2015, 10:42 AM)
as per topic, how do i get big and round shoulder if i have shoulder problem?(Ball joint not smooth enough to move)

i am struggling even with a 4kg dumbbell doing raises. Be it front or side or whatsoever.

is there any way i can train my shoulder without feeling my shoulder gonna pop off?
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If you're a beginner, you wanna go very light on lateral raises. You may think that 4KG is very light (which is true for some people) but it could be too heavy for some. I used to do lateral raises with 5KG dumbbell at home and I injured my rotator cuff.

I need to lay off that movement for a long long time and did a lot of strengthening movements. I did face pulls, shoulder internal and external rotations. These movements will strengthen your rotator cuffs. At least it did for my case. I'm now doing one arm 14kg leaning lateral raises for reps.

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So stop doing weighted lateral raises for now and focus on strengthening your rotator cuffs first. Once you're strong enough then only start doing it.

Also, I read a some readings and some established programs did not include lateral raise as some believe that it doesn't really add mass. Most programs utilizes massive compound pushing movements as their staple exercise to add mass. Such as OHP/DB shoulder presses.

Also genetics lol.

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post Sep 14 2015, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(alpha33 @ Sep 14 2015, 04:16 PM)
nice advice!
tonite i will go to try out the movement and see if i can do it.

whats a face pull?
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And for the strengthening movements that I mentioned, really try them with LIGHT weights. Best to try without any weights first. Then maybe 1kg or 2kg dumbbells...
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post Sep 14 2015, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(alpha33 @ Sep 14 2015, 04:41 PM)
eh????this one i can do. no pain wor.
can go up to like 50kg without any discomfort. But, i cant do push  up. the moment i position myself, the shoulder already pain. n oneed to go down also.
tats why i havent been working out the shoulders and its lagging way behind.
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so i just avoid anything that give that pain.
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If you are consistently getting the same pain, visit a doctor that is familiar with sports injury. If you're already feeling pain by positioning your shoulders for pushing movements, then it could be something serious. But most of us here is not educated enough to really prescribe you with anything.

You should seek professional help that has the know how to assess your condition.

You can test it yourself with some help...
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post Sep 15 2015, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(alpha33 @ Sep 14 2015, 09:46 PM)
thanks for the concern guys. but really, i dun wan go under the knife. yet i still wan nice shoulder.
i am worried that the doctor will tell me,"U cant lift bro!". then i kena be a fatass liao..

or if i change my objective to bruce lee kind of body instead?just go skinny ripped instead of arnold kind?
will it be better?
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It's funny that you think that Bruce didn't lift.

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post Sep 15 2015, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(alpha33 @ Sep 15 2015, 08:51 AM)
Sry bro. Do u even read?
Its mentioned several times i have seen specialists.
And they are the one who ask me go operate Without guarantee it will fix my problem.
I thought he only practice kungfu till his body like that.
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Weight lifting is part of most sports. A lot of them has great carry over to their performance in the sport. biggrin.gif

Seriously, get it looked up. Not just to get buff or not, think about it in the long run... do you want this injury to haunt you as you get older? Imagine not being to lift your arm up to scratch your head.......
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post Sep 29 2015, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(theCrab @ Sep 29 2015, 11:47 AM)
Shoulder is very much on genetics . If you have a narrow clavicles with high traps peak ,you going to have a hard time to develop those canon deltoid muscles .Also the insertion play a big role .

Raise that actually hits the medial delts directly and raise > press

Look at Larry Scott you will understand how i mean .Larry scott was born narrow and high peak traps .if you also noticed ,Arnold have the sloopy look .Having a body structure like this will have a hard time to look broad and wide .But the good side ,we have good traps peak .

Myself did tonnes of raise
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How do you do your raises? reps, sets, progression?
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post Oct 5 2015, 08:32 PM

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Have you guys tried one arm standing dumbbell shoulder press?
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