QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 7 2015, 05:15 PM)
USD/MYR drop, V2
USD/MYR drop, V2
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Oct 7 2015, 05:31 PM
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Oct 7 2015, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 7 2015, 05:23 PM) bnm 5pm official closing: good enuf for today usd 4.2150/4.2250 sgd 2.9780/2.9861 aud 3.0323/3.0412 gbp 6.4473/6.4651 http://www.bnm.gov.my/?tpl=exchangerates good enough or not? |
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Oct 7 2015, 05:59 PM
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Oct 7 2015, 06:01 PM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 7 2015, 05:23 PM) bnm 5pm official closing: One word, wonderful usd 4.2150/4.2250 sgd 2.9780/2.9861 aud 3.0323/3.0412 gbp 6.4473/6.4651 http://www.bnm.gov.my/?tpl=exchangerates good enough or not? |
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Oct 7 2015, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 7 2015, 05:19 PM) what now? QUOTE The international reserves of Bank Negara Malaysia amounted to RM415.1 billion (equivalent to USD93.3 billion) as at 30 September 2015. The decline in reserves level in USD terms as at 30 September 2015 was mainly due to the quarterly adjustment for foreign exchange revaluation changes. The reserves position is sufficient to finance 8.6 months of retained imports and is 1.2 times the short-term external debt[1]. |
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Oct 7 2015, 06:21 PM
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Oct 7 2015, 07:02 PM
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30/9/2015 4.3955
1/10/2015 4.4005 2/10/2015 4.4140 5/10/2015 4.3808 6/10/2015 4.3745 7/10/2015 4.2200 USD/MYR have appreciated close to 4% now from 30/9 |
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Oct 7 2015, 08:00 PM
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come on MYR, dont let me down tomorrow.
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Oct 7 2015, 08:53 PM
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Herd mentality may drive appreciation of MYR...
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Oct 7 2015, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 7 2015, 06:21 PM) meaning "usd reserves" are not in usd but in rm->usd at old exchange rate.e.g. if i bought 1kusd at 3.5 but rate went to 4.0 at end of qtr, my "usd reserves" is still reported at 1kusd in the meantime but becomes usd875 at the end of the qtr. QUOTE Based on released numbers, the exchange rate of the ringgit against the US dollar was 4.45 for September compared with 3.78 previously. - See more at: http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...h.dgCJ5C0P.dpuf This post has been edited by AVFAN: Oct 7 2015, 08:59 PM |
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Oct 7 2015, 09:01 PM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 7 2015, 08:58 PM) meaning "usd reserves" are not in usd but in rm->usd at old exchange rate. Dun understande.g. if i bought 1kusd at 3.5 but rate went to 4.0 at end of qtr, my "usd reserves" is still reported at 1kusd in the meantime but becomes usd875 at the end of the qtr. Did they make a mistake or inadvertently overlook? |
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Oct 7 2015, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 7 2015, 09:01 PM) opps... i think i got it wrong...i think it means the "reserves" are actually in rm. so when the rate goes unfavorable, the rm becomes less in usd. but this is strange... if i buy 1kusd at 3.5, my reserves is 1kusd and when rate goes to 4., i still hv 1kusd and gets bloated to 4k rm, right? we are missing something here... "fx reserves" are in rm and subject to rate changes? |
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Oct 7 2015, 09:14 PM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 7 2015, 09:09 PM) opps... i think i got it wrong... AVFAN,i think it means the "reserves" are actually in rm. so when the rate goes unfavorable, the rm becomes less in usd. but this is strange... if i buy 1kusd at 3.5, my reserves is 1kusd and when rate goes to 4., i still hv 1kusd and gets bloated to 4k rm, right? we are missing something here... "fx reserves" are in rm and subject to rate changes? <<"fx reserves" are in rm and subject to rate changes?>> Come on.. Just count the FX reserve in USD and you will not be confused. People are playing game with the number aka quoting in RM to confuse people. It is VERY SIMPLE The FX reserve is down USD $2 billions. Dreamer |
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Oct 7 2015, 09:16 PM
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http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/busine...pp/2172728.html
Folks, My gut feeling tell me that USD will stay weak while awaiting TPPA to be approved by Asian countries. So, let's see whether this comes true... Enjoy the show!! Dreamer This post has been edited by dreamer101: Oct 7 2015, 09:56 PM |
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Oct 7 2015, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 7 2015, 09:09 PM) opps... i think i got it wrong... My view:-i think it means the "reserves" are actually in rm. so when the rate goes unfavorable, the rm becomes less in usd. but this is strange... if i buy 1kusd at 3.5, my reserves is 1kusd and when rate goes to 4., i still hv 1kusd and gets bloated to 4k rm, right? we are missing something here... "fx reserves" are in rm and subject to rate changes? 1. 5 mths import pymt : Now can finance 8.6 mths -v- 7.3 mths. Tis means lower import in 2nd half Sep 15? 2. Short term external debt : Now 1.2x -v- 1.1x. Tis means repymt of debt took place in 2nd half Sep 15? |
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Oct 7 2015, 09:32 PM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 7 2015, 09:09 PM) opps... i think i got it wrong... The US$ reserve is the base point.i think it means the "reserves" are actually in rm. so when the rate goes unfavorable, the rm becomes less in usd. but this is strange... if i buy 1kusd at 3.5, my reserves is 1kusd and when rate goes to 4., i still hv 1kusd and gets bloated to 4k rm, right? we are missing something here... "fx reserves" are in rm and subject to rate changes? The reserve has decreased from US$94.7b in Aug to US$93.3b in Sept (down US$1.4b) BNM has been using forex rate of around 3.77xx previously --> 94.7 x 3.777 = RM357.7b Now BNM revised the forex rate to 4.449 --> 93.3 x 4.449 = RM415.1b So, in effect, our reserve decreased by US$1.4b There is a download of all the months' reserve in this link since year 2010 . Go to "International Reserves" line somewhere in 3/4 page and click the "download" http://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=statistic_nsdp&uc=2 |
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Oct 7 2015, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 7 2015, 09:09 PM) opps... i think i got it wrong... You don't measure foreign currency reserves in RM, as it is primary USD denominated.i think it means the "reserves" are actually in rm. so when the rate goes unfavorable, the rm becomes less in usd. but this is strange... if i buy 1kusd at 3.5, my reserves is 1kusd and when rate goes to 4., i still hv 1kusd and gets bloated to 4k rm, right? we are missing something here... "fx reserves" are in rm and subject to rate changes? Those USD reserves is essential for any money outflow and repayment of foreign debt that is in USD denominated. Yes, if RM depreciated, means less USD needed for every RM outflow. Eg. If there is RM 4.4 billion money want to flow out, at exchange rate 4.40, BNM only needs to fork out USD 1 bil. While if exchange rate is at 4, if there is RM4.4 bil want to exchange to USD, BNM needs to fork out USD 1.1 bil. If the foreign currency reserves drop USD 2 bil, means there is equivalent USD 2 bil of RM are exchanged with BNM that, which could be outflow already or stay in foreign currency account in domestic bank. So if rate was Rm4.40 means RM8.8 bil was being changed to USD in this period of time. That's why analysts or BNM published how much foreign currency reserves in USD. Because if you have 100 bil USD, it will stay forever as 100 bil USD, as this is what you have. Just like if you have Sgd 100 in hand, you know you have Sgd 100, not RM310 last week or Rm297 today. |
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Oct 7 2015, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 7 2015, 09:28 PM) My view:- 1. Import figure starts to shrink recently.1. 5 mths import pymt : Now can finance 8.6 mths -v- 7.3 mths. Tis means lower import in 2nd half Sep 15? 2. Short term external debt : Now 1.2x -v- 1.1x. Tis means repymt of debt took place in 2nd half Sep 15? 2. Yes, some debt may be due and already being paid off. A lower reserves figure, but have higher coverage from 1.1x to 1.2x, means short term debt figure become less. |
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Oct 7 2015, 09:47 PM
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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Oct 7 2015, 09:32 PM) ok, ok...forget the rm. usd reserves is down 1.4b, that's it. QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 7 2015, 09:28 PM) My view:- must be...1. 5 mths import pymt : Now can finance 8.6 mths -v- 7.3 mths. Tis means lower import in 2nd half Sep 15? so expensive... all importers pulled brakes! hope no shortage of any goods... This post has been edited by AVFAN: Oct 7 2015, 09:47 PM |
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Oct 7 2015, 09:55 PM
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so the conclusion is our reserve has decreased USD 1.4b!
nothing else matters |
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