Maintainance office require RM1900 for renovation deposit, and RM100 is Managment fee.
So total is RM2000.

Why they need RM100 for the fee? What's the point we pay monthly maintanance fee?

My unit is townhouse type ( no lift )
Another building with lift ( in same garden) 10. Floor

They calculate the lift maintanance all together. My townhouse no life and I have to pay monthly lift maintainance.
I complaint about this issue, they said the lift is common facility, even I didn't use it.

Where should I complaint both this problem?which society ?


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Sounds logic if its a mixed development area.

management scare the debris leave over and damage done by your contractor.

You cann't expect equal charge by other unit.

sounds ok to me... deposit is fair n square. rm100 is very little compared to the dust and noise ur reno will cost... the maintenance fees issue, well, you should have known before buying.

This post has been edited by HarpArtist: Aug 20 2015, 05:47 PM

I will pay the RM1900 for renovation deposit, buy why they still ask all the buyer for extra RM100 .

RM1900 ( refundable)
RM100 ( not refund, must give)

Before sales person said townhouse unit maintainance is cheaper because no lift.
So....and then...another story.....

Its called processing fees. Whether its legal or not its very debatable.

Anyhow, if its a new property and management is incharged by developer then u are pretty screwed.
If its Joint Management, well raise it in AGM and get enough vote to abolish the rule

My sister got 1 unit in I city, Shah Alam .
Renovation deposit RM1000 only , no processing fee. Fully refund

is there a separate billing item for "lift maintenance"? or is it justa fixed management fund based on your share value?

i believe it's a management & sinking fund. in which case you have to pay regardless you use the lift or not.

because if you say you don't want to pay due to not using lift, others on the top floor of a 33 storey tower can also say they don't want to pay for fumigation & mosquito control fees since their top floor unit less mosquito. or don't want to pay landscaping fee because they hardly enjoy the view of the garden.

but i agree the salesperson should have had more training and product knowledge.

as for the 100RM processing fee, you can bring up the matter in the next AGM. or speak to the chairman of your MC if you know him.

This post has been edited by corleone74: Aug 20 2015, 06:22 PM

sigh so sorry to hear you got wrong info from agents , it happened to me b4 too... malaysia shld really clamp down on bad prop agents, they're everywhr like flies!

unfortunately i think the reno deposit and fee is reasonable IMHO and i doubt thr is much u can do to change it. bear in mind the cleaners who hv to clean up after ur reno guys, and the neighbours who put up with the dust n noise.

every dev is diff la, basically tho nobody likes to pay more, a higher maintenance and reno deposit etcetc ensures ur committee is richer and has funds to fix problems etcetc in future. very important when ur place becomes 10+yrs old.

my opinion is reno deposit yes, processing fee, debatable. 100RM for what?

i did reno before in my sgp condo, no such fee. in m'sia every blardy ting got fee. now got fee and gst some more.
bank clear my cheque 10 sen fee, 1 sen gst. hello!! 1 sen of 10sen gst, isn't that 10% GST????

This post has been edited by corleone74: Aug 20 2015, 06:25 PM

agreed debatable...

TS u should be happy just 2k deposit and rm100 for whatsoever things.

My Reno deposit is rm5k ( refundable ) not major Reno. If major deposit rm10k. And rm200 ( non refundable ) as rubbish fees .

Feel happy for u.

Boss kayu balak stay in high class property. Sure no problem ma!

Refer back to ur DMC and house rules to see any written there. If not, call MC/JMC chairman to seek clarification.
If he/she can't provide acceptable response. Take the chairman post and U SET THE RULES! Ok bo?

which condo is that?

1) RM100 if for them approved your reno, inspection after reno.

2) As for lift maintenance, they explaining it wrongly to u now. As per Strata Management Act, all strata developments now will be divided by the term "shared unit". Developer will hire a licensed surveyor to do land survey measured in meter sq. Then subdivided it as per formula in the act. Example, say your unit + parking = 200 shared units after using formula to calculate. Then maintenance is set by considering the overall budget for your development divide the total shared units. Say u end up with RM2 per shared unit. So your maintenance fee is 200 x RM2 = rm400. As for the lift, the land surveyor will calculated your shared unit based on a table in act showing with lift or not lift as well as aircond lobby or not. Your shared unit will later be submitted to land office to be shown in your Title.

Also, take note when u have more accessory parcel such parking lots, your maintenance fee is higher as it will be added to your total shared units.

Renovation cleaning fee or whatever name of RM100 is very reasonable.

As during renovation, there is potential of debris, damage to common property, scratches done on life etc, which required management to rectify which may be costly more than Rm100.

If the property is under one strata property, then all the maintenance fee incurred need to be shared across proprietor owners (based on share unit), whether you use it or not doesn't matter.

As joint owner of strata property, all equal share the burden of the maintenance fee needed.

There is no such thing of lift maintenance fee actually (so that no confusion occurs), all should be lump sum into monthly maintenance fee.
Management doesn't or shouldn't list out details like maintenance fee for life or others, just need to state monthly maintenance fee invoice is RMxxx.

By then MC only use the fund inside the maintenance fee account to pay off the life maintenance expenses.

You can't say you don't use it, then refuse to pay.
Imagine,
some never use swimming pool, then don't want to pay swimming pool upkeep expenses.
Then another one live on second floor, never use lift, then don't want to pay for lift maintenance expenses.
How can?

It is the duty of proprietor owner to pay the maintenance fee required for the strata property so that it is enough to cover all expenses, which is stated clearly in the strata title act.

Maintenance fee is catered for paying common property expenses and upkeep on it.
Renovation is another matter, whereby MC has the right to impose such deposit or minimal fee.

Living in a strata property, need to have a strata property mindset, as it is like living in a big community instead alone.
You need to follow individual house rules set by the management or MC.

This post has been edited by cherroy: Aug 20 2015, 09:53 PM

I'm the owner of Skyridge Penang. I'm so sad that the management just eat money. They asked us to pay for RM 5000 deposit and RM 300 for rubbish. If not, use their contractor,quote us around 8k...I heard they hire samseng to control over ...So some people scared to use outsider..Which department that I can complain?

congrats.. they look you very up, charge you atas price.

on a serious note, call PDRM.

This post has been edited by warrenbuffett: Aug 15 2022, 03:31 PM

if i only install grill and aircon, no other renovation , do i need to apply renovation permit from management office?

Can I know who sets the Reno deposit? Is it based on any law?

Better to check with the management. You don't want to see the contractor being barred from entering on that day.

installing grill and air con is quite a major one, so yeah you will need to apply for reno permit.

unless you are talking about easier task like installing water heater, fans/light, that will be easier to hide as you can just bring the contractor in yourself.