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kaiserreich
post Aug 22 2015, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(sai86 @ Aug 22 2015, 07:36 AM)
how do you guys clean the keycaps? rendam it in a normal soap water?
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Rendam in denture tabs. Tesco brand or Polident is good.
Cleans the keycaps up without needing you to rub or anything
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post Aug 22 2015, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(sai86 @ Aug 22 2015, 07:36 AM)
how do you guys clean the keycaps? rendam it in a normal soap water?
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I rendam in 3/4 hot water plus tap water with 2 Polident tablet,then leave it for like one hour laugh.gif drying takes a long time
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post Aug 22 2015, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(weilizxx @ Aug 22 2015, 01:42 AM)
anyone using deck? looks nice and tough
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I think just few people got Deck here.

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post Aug 22 2015, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(quadcube @ Aug 22 2015, 09:25 AM)
I rendam in 3/4 hot water plus tap water with 2 Polident tablet,then leave it for like one hour laugh.gif drying takes a long time
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Careful of the hot water. Once it is over 80C, ABS starts to warp a bit.
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post Aug 22 2015, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Aug 22 2015, 10:05 AM)
Careful of the hot water. Once it is over 80C, ABS starts to warp a bit.
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It's PBT,dare not try on my stock filco Keycaps yet laugh.gif
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post Aug 22 2015, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Aug 21 2015, 07:00 PM)
theres a chart here for chemical resistance for these plastic types
http://www2.ulprospector.com/resources/pla...-resistance.asp

obviously you wouldn't use something too strong that would harm it  smile.gif
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Wow I see I see, definitely won't use those man.. and hey, u haven't explain what's metal backplate to me xD

QUOTE(quadcube @ Aug 22 2015, 12:55 AM)
done cleaning and changing all the keys sweat.gif
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Wow looks so cool man.. is the keycaps the one from massdrop? I bought a set of black ones.. PBT.. haha

This post has been edited by wyncent911203: Aug 22 2015, 10:26 AM
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post Aug 22 2015, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(wyncent911203 @ Aug 22 2015, 10:24 AM)
Wow I see I see, definitely won't use those man.. and hey, u haven't explain what's metal backplate to me xD
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the backplate is this metalic partition to separate the switch stubs from the actual pcb on the otherside.

this makes cleaning up dust or other gunk from the backplate, rather than the pcb (which is not good to mess with directly for the obvious reasons laugh.gif )

spilt drinks is another story rolleyes.gif


pcb mounted looks something like this
user posted image


harder to clean....


QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Aug 22 2015, 09:14 AM)
Rendam in denture tabs. Tesco brand or Polident is good.
Cleans the keycaps up without needing you to rub or anything
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i'll try this next time smile.gif

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Aug 22 2015, 11:18 AM
quadcube
post Aug 22 2015, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(wyncent911203 @ Aug 22 2015, 10:24 AM)
Wow looks so cool man.. is the keycaps the one from massdrop? I bought a set of black ones.. PBT.. haha
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nope,all from taobao laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Aug 22 2015, 12:49 PM

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Somehow i like the texture of PBT caps,ABS would be a little too slippery,double shot caps are also as slippery as normal ABS caps?
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QUOTE(quadcube @ Aug 22 2015, 12:49 PM)
Somehow i like the texture of PBT caps,ABS would be a little too slippery,double shot caps are also as slippery as normal ABS caps?
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You seem to be a bit confuse...

Double Shot, Dye-Sublimated, Laser-Latched, etc are PRINTING TECHNIQUES of making the "FONT" on the keycaps. NOT THE MATERIALS used to make the keycaps. (You can imagine this as painting style, like cute style, realistic style, abstract, etc)

PBT, ABS, POM, Zinc, Stainless Steel, Aluminium, etc are MATERIALS used for the keycaps. (You can imagine these are choices of painting medium choices, like color pencils, oil paint, water color, acrylic paint, etc)

So, DO NOT MIX them up.

Not all ABS keycaps are slippery. But, most of them are(which commonly found).
ABS keycaps can be NON-SLIPPERY too if it's SANDBLASTED by default and using very good quality ABS materials.
Usually, ABS Keycaps surface will get oily or shiny after sometime. But, if they're sandblasted, they'll last longer than non-sandblasted.

PBT keycaps are mainly chalky by nature and more durable.

Which means, you can have Double Shot PBT Keycaps and also Double Shot ABS Keycaps on the market. Because, Double Shot is a PRINTING TECHNIQUE, NOT materials.

This post has been edited by DarkSilver: Aug 22 2015, 04:06 PM
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post Aug 22 2015, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(DarkSilver @ Aug 22 2015, 03:51 PM)
You seem to be a bit confuse...

Double Shot, Dye-Sublimated, Laser-Latched, etc are PRINTING TECHNIQUES of making the "FONT" on the keycaps. NOT THE MATERIALS used to make the keycaps. (You can imagine this as painting style, like cute style, realistic style, abstract, etc)

PBT, ABS, POM, Zinc, Stainless Steel, Aluminium, etc are MATERIALS used for the keycaps. (You can imagine these are choices of painting medium choices, like color pencils, oil paint, water color, acrylic paint, etc)

So, DO NOT MIX them up.

Not all ABS keycaps are slippery. But, most of them are(which commonly found).
ABS keycaps can be NON-SLIPPERY too if it's SANDBLASTED by default and using very good quality ABS materials.
Usually, ABS Keycaps surface will get oily or shiny after sometime. But, if they're sandblasted, they'll last longer than non-sandblasted.

PBT keycaps are mainly chalky by nature and more durable.

Which means, you can have Double Shot PBT Keycaps and also Double Shot ABS Keycaps on the market. Because, Double Shot is a PRINTING TECHNIQUE, NOT materials.
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thumbup.gif thanks for the explanation..didn't know there were sandblasted ones and double shot PBT,i tot double shot are all ABS sweat.gif
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post Aug 22 2015, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(quadcube @ Aug 22 2015, 07:35 PM)
thumbup.gif thanks for the explanation..didn't know there were sandblasted ones and double shot PBT,i tot double shot are all ABS sweat.gif
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Double Shots Injection Techniques are available for both PBT and ABS, yes.
Usually, double shots keycaps(for both ABS and PBT) are sandblasted by default.

Non-sandblasted ABS keycaps(LED backlite), they'll get shinny and oily very easily,
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Sandblasted Double Shot ABS keycaps(LED backlite), won't get oily and shiny very fast and the fonts on it can last forever due to double shot injections,
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This post has been edited by DarkSilver: Aug 22 2015, 08:05 PM
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Hi, is there a place in Malaysia where I can try out keyboards with different switches? I am planning to get a Filco.
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post Aug 23 2015, 02:25 AM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Aug 22 2015, 11:16 AM)
user posted image

user posted image
the backplate is this metalic partition to separate the switch stubs from the actual pcb on the otherside.

this makes cleaning up dust or other gunk from the backplate, rather than the pcb (which is not good to mess with directly for the obvious reasons  laugh.gif  )

spilt drinks is another story  rolleyes.gif
pcb mounted looks something like this
user posted image
harder to clean....
i'll try this next time  smile.gif
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i see i see, can we install the metal backplate into filco keyboards? but when u do the cleaning job, u will have to remove all the switches to clean the metal plate? doesnt it seems more complicated? blink.gif blink.gif
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post Aug 23 2015, 02:41 AM

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QUOTE(wyncent911203 @ Aug 23 2015, 02:25 AM)
i see i see, can we install the metal backplate into filco keyboards? but when u do the cleaning job, u will have to remove all the switches to clean the metal plate? doesnt it seems more complicated?  blink.gif  blink.gif
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Filco is plate mounted by default, in other words, there's already metal plate.

As for cleaning, removing the keycaps (all preferably, if you not confident with large modifier keys like Enter, spacebar and so on, leave them untouched). Turn the keyboard upside down on your lap then start shaking/slapping it. Then use tiny brush or air blower to blow off the remaining dusts/dandruff/pieces of food. That should be clean enough but if you are despo, get a cloth and alchohol then start wiping them before reinstall everything.
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post Aug 23 2015, 03:29 AM

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QUOTE(wyncent911203 @ Aug 23 2015, 02:25 AM)
i see i see, can we install the metal backplate into filco keyboards? but when u do the cleaning job, u will have to remove all the switches to clean the metal plate? doesnt it seems more complicated?  blink.gif  blink.gif
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nah just removing keycaps is enough. then just clean the backplate while it's still attached to the switches.

i'm not confident enough i could fully dissasemble/reassemble sweat.gif
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post Aug 23 2015, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(karthyhu @ Aug 22 2015, 09:07 AM)
E-Element RGB Keyboard how good is this kyb ?
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https://www.massdrop.com/buy/e-element-rgb-keyboard

anybody?
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post Aug 23 2015, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(karthyhu @ Aug 23 2015, 08:36 AM)
i getting direct from china ...wanna come ?
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post Aug 23 2015, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(megadisc @ Aug 23 2015, 10:20 AM)
i getting direct from china ...wanna come ?
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beli, jangan tak beli thumbup.gif
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post Aug 23 2015, 06:32 PM

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Hi all,

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The last payment due date for this gb is 31Aug.
Those interested, and want to support MMKB T-Shirt GB..
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