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dzi921
post Sep 24 2007, 03:16 PM

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What a day. KLCI started so slow today, now turbo +7.23
I think the days of buying is over. Waiting to harvest smile.gif
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post Sep 25 2007, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Sep 25 2007, 08:31 AM)
Is it wise to have most of your money to invest in mutual fund?
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People say you should diversify your money into different kind of investment

For me, I think UT is the best for me now

The theory is simple. If you don't need the money then should be fine. Always have emegency fund on standby too
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post Sep 25 2007, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(kingkong81 @ Sep 25 2007, 08:05 AM)
NEW FUND LAUNCHING!

PUBLIC SOUTH-EAST ASIA SELECT FUND

Agressive Risk

Distribution ~ Incidental

Investing in selected markets in SEA. ASEAN country is one of the fastest growing region in the world. With an average GDP growth of 9.0% p.a. and combine population of 573 million.

Promotional Service Charge (during launching period)- 5.45%

Price at RM 0.2500 NAV

Launching Period - 2nd Oct ~ 22 Oct 2007

Direct Debit Campaign - Promo Service Charge of 5.45% for DDI made during launch period.

Bench mark Total Return - 3 years (83.9%) ; 5 years (155.7%)

Fund Size RM375Million, 1.5 billion units
PM me if you wish to know more about this fund  thumbup.gif
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So many new funds. How to choose...
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post Sep 25 2007, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(ejleemy @ Sep 25 2007, 08:41 AM)
Diversify ma. Put a bit outside of Msia, a bit in bonds, a bit of cash/FD depends on your risk profile.
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Diversify is good when money is a lot ma. If only small small diversify too much also won't affect much unsure.gif
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post Sep 25 2007, 05:51 PM

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EDIT: Wrong Thread sad.gif

This post has been edited by dzi921: Sep 25 2007, 06:19 PM
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post Sep 25 2007, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Sep 25 2007, 09:30 PM)
Investment Portfolio: FD = 46.34%, PFES = 12.25%, PAIF = 14.51%, PFEPRF = 8.5% , PSBF = 18.40%
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Wow. A lot of FD there smile.gif

Btw, if you keep track of your investment in Excel. It is much easier to use the formula to generate the line above smile.gif


Added on September 25, 2007, 9:39 pmHere is my Excel code:

="Investments (Valued On "&TEXT(C4,"dd/mm/yyyy")&"):- FD ("&TEXT(F10,"#0.00%")&"), PSMALLCAP ("&TEXT(F4,"#0.00%")&"), PIOF ("&TEXT(F5,"#0.00%")&"), PRSF ("&TEXT(F6,"#0.00%")&"), PGF ("&TEXT(F7,"#0.00%")&"), PIEBF ("&TEXT(F8,"#0.00%")&"), PISBF ("&TEXT(F9,"#0.00%")&") = 100% (Net Profit = "&TEXT(I12,"#0.00%")&")"

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post Sep 27 2007, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(Vieri777 @ Sep 27 2007, 01:14 AM)
It doesnt matter what px you bought...
what really matters is the px you sold !!  icon_rolleyes.gif
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It does matter what NAV you buy. Cause the higher the NAV, the chances of it going higher is lower
So when you buy when it is low (during correction or bear), then when bull time can sell at cheaper rate mar
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post Sep 27 2007, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Sep 27 2007, 10:16 PM)
Thanks for the reply, I do diversify my investment to stocks, FD, foreign FD, mutual funds, ASW and investment link funds ... since there are so many attractive, new and cheap mutual funds coming up every few months, im thnking whether i should buy more ... feeling my savings are getting lesser cause thrown most of my money into investment ...
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Just because they launch it at 0.25 doesn't mean it is cheap. Don't let your agent fool you


Added on September 27, 2007, 10:40 pmThe only different with newly launch fund is the discount during the introduction period, but that does not justify cheap during bull or when market is at it's peak

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post Sep 30 2007, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Sep 30 2007, 04:19 PM)
dear all,

I've been thinking of switching 18k unit of PAIF to PISBF (already reach my target, so want to lock profit). AFAIK, i will be charge RM25. Let say, after the switching i want to switch back the 18k unit from PISBF to PAIF, I will be charge RM25 rite? Is there any other fee? Still blur2.

Thanks for replying
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PAIF -> PISBF = RM25
PISBF -> PAIF = No Charge

I've done this type of switching recently
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post Sep 30 2007, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Sep 30 2007, 06:30 PM)
Meaning that, if I switch RM 5k worth of NAV from PAIF to PISBF i need to pay RM 25 and when I switch back RM 5k worth of NAV from PISBF to PAIF its free? Sorry coz asking so many question. Need to be clear in this.
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Yes, provided is the same loaded units
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post Oct 2 2007, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(lwb @ Oct 2 2007, 04:22 PM)
wait.. it's not free for switching to and fro..
remember.. you'll still have to fork out the $25 ticket each time you hop onto the switching bus..

so "free" is only on the perspective of sales commission/charges.

if only you manage to accumulate to a mutual gold status.. then each switching bus ride is free (for now)
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No. Switching from loaded bond into equity does not need to pay RM25. I have done this few times for the past few weeks
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post Oct 2 2007, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(lwb @ Oct 2 2007, 06:17 PM)
are you absolutely sure? (it's a rapid kl style..? round trip ticket?).. i'd like to confirm that the next time i make a call to pmutual.. (did you find out from the officially?)
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I am now outstation till weekend. I have left my statement at home. Will double confirm with you guys. But if memory and eye sight is right, it should be correct
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post Oct 3 2007, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(kingkong81 @ Oct 2 2007, 11:56 PM)
Here are the switching fees incur for different transactions:

1) FROM Equity/Balanced fund

    TO --> Equity/Balanced (At NAV + RM25)
    TO --> Bond Funds (At NAV + RM25)
    TO --> Money Market Fund (At NAV)

2) FROM Bond/MMF - with Loaded Units (units that incurred service charge of 5% or more during initial purchase)

    TO --> Equity/Balanced (At NAV + RM25)
    TO --> Bond Funds (At NAV + RM25)
    TO --> Money Market Fund (At NAV)

3) From Bond/MMF - with Low-load units (units that incurred service charge of 0.25% or less during initial purchase)

    TO --> Equity/Balanced (At NAV + Service Charge)
    TO --> Bond Funds (At NAV + RM25)
    TO --> Money Market Fund (At NAV)
I hope this can help u guys clear up a bit of the confusion  icon_rolleyes.gif

So only 2 types of switching will not incur RM25,
1st one is swicthing to MMF
2nd is Low load units fr Bond/MMF to Equity/balanced; but have to pay service charge of 6.5%

If you are Mutual Gold, switching is free (i.e. at NAV)
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Thanks to clear this up smile.gif

I'll check my statement. Maybe I overlook it... hmmm hmm.gif
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post Oct 3 2007, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(SK2 @ Oct 3 2007, 03:15 PM)
no,i ask this question because  i just plan wana buy the new fund that is aggresive, so if i buy now and put it as my saving fund without switch or top up any money in future and also keep it for 3 year , means till year 2010..is it risky?or i shud buy low risk or moderate risk fund as saving fund?

thanks for u ll replies..appreciate u all advice... notworthy.gif
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Buying now and keeping for 3 years... good smile.gif but...

If you want to invest now, the market is quite high in terms of index and past performance already. Many regional market is hitting new index high

So question is, do you think market will crash anytime soon? or how high can it go? No one can predict

To be safe, I think better keep your money in FD/savings for the next major correction. Or else buy Bond lor and switch into equity when market correction

Personally my money is all out in equity since the recent correction, and now saving up new bullets for next correction. I have decided to stop investing after index reached 1300 above


Added on October 3, 2007, 3:28 pmYou can choose to buy now, but IF the market crashes, the NAV you bought is expensive and the lost will be greater

So better wait and hold for next correction to enter. Remember to buy low and sell/switch during high ma. Don't rush in smile.gif

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post Oct 3 2007, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(SK2 @ Oct 3 2007, 03:38 PM)
REALLY 1000X thanks for your advice...
u are correct, i also wonder the market now is good and duno how high it can performs, who knows after it perform well, then will suddenly drop ...this is what i worry..

so is it good i buy the new fund that launch by PM now or only top up to my current PFEPRF ? Or act as you, saving up bullet and top up and buy a new fund for next correction?
hope to get ur advice.. notworthy.gif

p/s:now index already above 1300 lo..means u stop invest dy?
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Yes, I've stopped investing since it passed 1300 cause I feel a bit risky and the future is blur

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Based on the Diagram

A - Bull is running. People will advice you to buy using Dollar Cost Averaging. E.g. Shooting every month

B - Correction has calmed down. Bad news is cooling off. I think this is the best time to buy. Imagine if I have not buy every month in A and buy one shot during B. It will be gaining faster and more cause no DCA

C - Time to stop buying as Bull is nearing it's high (like our current market now). Save bullets for the next correction. Once target profit is reached, switch to bond for parking. Don't be greedy

I've used strategy A previously, but after this correction low I've noticed it is so much worth to buy during B time (this require quite a lot of monitoring and right timing with some luck)

PS: I'm not a pro. My advice might not be the best

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QUOTE(David83 @ Oct 3 2007, 07:36 PM)
It depends on how big is apetite. One investment style might not suit another. dzi921 is more to short term profit reaper.
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Just want to maximize profit by switching and buying low mar. I'm only 1 1/2 year old in UT, still learning which method is best for me

And yes, different people different appetite. So find your best satisfaction as long make money thumbup.gif
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post Oct 4 2007, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(Justmua @ Oct 4 2007, 10:16 AM)
Yes, everyone wants to maximize profit in shortest time possible. Just wondering what is your return so far, using your method. Has it been stressful?
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When stock market goes down where got no stressful one

My return was good till I recently made a big topup and the 6.5% service charge is quite heavy sad.gif
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post Oct 4 2007, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(ryansxs @ Oct 4 2007, 02:21 PM)
I would like to seek advice on Public Bank Growth Fund. According to my friend, we can just walk in to any Public bank to buy this fund.
Can anyone here advice me on the procedure of buying the fund in little detail?
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For PB fund series you can go any public bank to buy direct. The forms are there

For PM fund series you have to go PM branch to get form and have an agent. Form submission can be done at any public bank if u want to do yourself else ask your agent

If you were to give cash then better go open account yourself at the bank else issue cheque to agent
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post Oct 4 2007, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(clausman @ Oct 4 2007, 04:50 PM)
Can I go straight to their office instead (eg the one in Bangsar or Damansara?) ?
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If you are looking for PM agent. Try ask here, I think there are at least 3 or 4 agents here brows.gif
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post Oct 4 2007, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Oct 4 2007, 08:37 PM)
You need to take a qualifying exam for that. The exam isn't cheap too.
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And he needs to have time and commitment too

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