hey guys, any suggestions on which camera olympus epl7, sony a6000, and sony rx100mk3 )is of better edge? all of those camera are of below rm2500 and i am not keen on big bulky dslr. semi pro is fine for me? or any further suggestions on other model are more than welcome. thanks

This post has been edited by isaac91: Aug 10 2015, 11:21 AM

What's your main usage of the camera? What's your expectation of the camera that you'll be buying?

for portability, mk3 then.
if you're the type of person that have spare money to buy lenses then a6000.
not sure on epl7 though.

Epl7 and a6000 will add another hundred to thousands to change lens. Interchangable allows better portrait, scenery, macro, all sorts possibilities but cost a lot.

If you primarily just point and shoot, rx100 is plenty good. Scenery shots as well as low light is great. But zoom is limiting and the portrait shot is meh.

that's the reason i downgraded to rx100 camera variant because i don't have spare money to buy good lenses,
rx100 took sharper images compared to kit lens on interchangeable camera

to be honest, i am just wondering between the mk3 and a6000 (with basic kit), would the outcome of picture taken differs alot? especially on colour

yep. the mk3 has a zeiss lens. very sharp and the colors are great

But if take a look at rx100 shot like in flickr, just feels very point and shoot....ky. Because of sensor size and short zoom there literally almost no subject separation from background. A6000, the kit is meh but paired up with 30 or 50mm prime will see big change.

But of course really just depends on your artistic style. A6000 is rather expensive piece of gear with subpar kit lens. Other alternative like sony a5100 or nx3300 which i belive <rm2000 can offer some experiment before jumping to serious photography and img quality more less the same as a6000 minus autofocus speed.

M4/3 is good as well but sensor size closer to rx100 1" you probably wont notice the bokeh much if you switch.

so as the verdict? which one would be a better choice in comparison of all the 3 cameras (with just its basic kit) . i had google the 30mm and 50mm lens that you have suggest and it come about 199usd.

You have not answered to my question above bro. Giving you advice blindly without knowing your needs is pointless.

This will give you a brief idea on how the rx100m3 is capable of.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/williamleong/tags/rx100m3/

This post has been edited by lwliam: Aug 10 2015, 05:49 PM

All depends. What the camera gonna used for? Sports? Scenery? Kids? Iphone replacement?

sorry for my blurness haha. i am looking for an all rounder but utmost it should be nice pic? haha the pictures in your flickr are so awesome!! i supposed it had gone through some editing? the other day i had went over to the sony center to test out this mk3 but it doesnt seems to be that "capable" . the interval between each shots is so long and also the stability as well.(do correct me if i am wrong)

i just need better pictures quality among this three camera? if possible comparisonvia the basic kit.

maybe you could consider new old model E-PL6 kit and add another 25mm f1.8 or 45mm f1.8 prime lens, it's still below RM2.5k.

A bit generic. I'm going to guess iphone upgrade. Then RX100mkiii suffice since iphone users tend not to fuss much on zoom.

If portability is not much problem and you "may" consider upgrade, interchangeable lens is definitely way to go. Sony cameras like a6000 gets much praise due to its advanced focusing system and more pro feature but their sony lens are expensive and much to be desire. I've seen sony kit lens review and tried out myself.....not very good but for everyday use it's ok.

Personally I may recommend samsung nx camera as starter as their prime lens are much cheaper <RM1k and offer quite top notch quality. Their 16-50pz kit lens also much better than sony kit lens. But samsung camera errr....quite limiting like lens, accessories and adapters as they r not popular model. But not a problem for me as I don't intend to be infected with Gear Acquisition Syndrom (GAS).

Going smaller would be the m4/3 realm like panasonic and olympus. Lens selection are superb (darn expensive though) but personally I still have issue with their smaller sensor and stuck at 16mp.

Last advice would be just to check out the images like via flikr. If you are interested in portrait, just search the camera model + lens+ portrait in their search database.

This post has been edited by DaddyO: Aug 10 2015, 06:24 PM

Can assure you there's no issue with burst. My best guess is that someone fiddled with the settings and enabled some on-board auto editing function. That will slow down the camera a bit. The optical stabilization is really doing its job, its either your testing camera was on a very low iso or the optical stabilization was turned off in the settings.

Yes, the photos went through my usual rounds of editing.

A6000: fastest autofocus of the list (provided user knows what they're doing), built in electronic viewfinder (useful outdoors on sunny days), can add external flash with hotshoe.
A5100: compromise from the A6000 with cheaper price and tad slower autofocus (just by a bit), adds selfie screen, can't add external flash.
RX100M3: small form factor, selfie screen, stuck with one lens system only, albeit a bloody excellent and sharp lens.(the other 2 above can change lenses, the kit lens is sub par). Also built in electronic viewfinder (useful outdoors on sunny days).

All cameras above have wifi capability

This post has been edited by lwliam: Aug 10 2015, 06:37 PM

1. LCD screen camera on the back does not translate to image on Desktop monitor. There's also difference between RAW and JPEG mode.
2. You need to up the shutter speed (select 'S' mode) to at least 1/100 if you got shaky hands.
3. If you went to sony centre, most likely someone tinker with the settings. I too was shocked until I realised the setting was left at very high ISO.

This post has been edited by DaddyO: Aug 10 2015, 06:39 PM

at your price point the rx100 is the only that fits your budget. if you're talking about capablity of course an interchangeable lens system will beat it. but out of the box the rx100 is the way to go. Plus you don't want to spend time to edit your photos. the rx100 has presets you can use.

bottomline is, if you're not planning on expanding your lens collection, go with the rx100. its the best of its class point and shoot camera. go for olympus for cheaper lenses. and the a6000 only if you're willing to shell out some hard cash. cuz the lenses are very expensive. a 50mm f/1.8 costs 900 bucks.

i concur

If you consider rx100, I think you can take a look for Panny Lx100 also, quite a nice camera also :-)