Hi Broz..may i know what is the major difference on kia cerato k3 1.6sx vs 2.0L

the price diff was almost 20k...???

offer that i got it for 1.6sx was RM6,580 but 2.0L is RM4,000 only??

Any k3 members here can answer my question please?

which one you all prefer?

well, bigger CC engine... off course more expensive...

http://www.nazakia.com.my/models/cerato/

been using cerato 1.6sx k3. all same except for engine, seat & sunroof

http://www.nazakia.com.my/models/cerato/#D-Specifications

very detailed specification between these 2 models

i also realize that just a leather seats, engine and sunroof, and rear lid..

20k difference..worth it?

Depends on whether you want power or save money. Sunroof in Malaysia is pointless. Leather seats you can do yourself for ~rm2K. Test drive both and decide.

I have test drive both.

1.6 kinda under power while 2.0 ok. if normal smooth use, then should be no problem.
both from stop to go got a little bit delay but 2.0 got power, so no problem.

SA offer 2.0L (coz I was looking for 2.0L)
1.) 4K + free tint voucher (worth RM800) + full tank + 1M4U no plate
2.) 2.7K + body kits + free tint voucher (worth RM800) + full tank + 1M4U no plate

i just done my test drive on 1.6sx..de power for me is ok..with full load of 5pax
SA offer 5k + tinted but another SA can give me better offer up to RM6,250..
2.0L only can rebate max 4k only..so diff will be 20k gap..
both also no free boykit n no free upgrade on leather seats...

the leather seats upgrade is just simply wrap on the existing fabric seats or whole new leather seat?

The spec difference between the 1.6 and 2.0 as follows :

1) Leather Seat with AC ventilation
(note that 1.6 does not come with seat ventilation)
2) Sun roof
3) HID Head lamp
4) Rear Spoiler
5) TFT Coloured LCD cluster Meter
6) 2.0 Engine of course

While I can't comment what other sources are giving, my leather seat package involves re-upholstering the entire seat and not just a wrapped-on leather cover. Attached is a photo of the finished product. Cheers.



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What I mean is do the leather seats outside after getting your car. Of course you can specify the quality of leather you want and how you want it to be done.

If you feel the power is enough go for the 1.6SX. RM20K is a lot of money and with interest can become RM24K. The few differences in features not worth that much.

When people say underpowered it can be very subjective as it depends on personal expectation. Some also say 2.0L Sonata is very underpowered but when I drive it it's fine.

This post has been edited by KennyKB: Aug 10 2015, 03:21 PM

1.6 = tarik lembu..
But I don't see much diff of Hp and torque for the 20k you spent on 2.0, so pandai pandai lah.

Cerato 1.6 is probably the most powerful NA 1.6 litre car in Msia. It doesn't feel underpowered until you reach a certain speed of course.

The 2.0 is obviously more powerful but if you feel the 1.6 is underpowered, maybe you're not driving it right or your expectation is too high.

The differences between the 2 are not worth 20k IMO. But clearly, if you need the power and do a lot of long highway journeys, the 2.0 will be a better choice.

of course if offering bodykit & leather seat , the discount will less .
some ppl prefer discount , some will choose gift package as no need to pening kepala to finding the sources to install .

usually i will offer both package for customer choose .

Have you tried a toyota 4AGE engine or a VTEC B16A or B16B engine? Above 165hp stock.

You will surprised if you think cerato 1.6 is the most powerful NA 1.6 litre car.

Sorry for my ignorance sir. Pls enlighten me which new cars have these engines so that I can go for a test drive.

I hope you are not talking about ancient cars which can only be bought 2nd hand since this is not the topic being discussed currently. Perhaps I should have added more caveats to what I said, but I do believe its correct in the context of the current discussion.

As far as I know, both Honda & Toyota don't sell 1.6 cars in Msia currently. I would be happy to stand corrected.



This post has been edited by jdgobio: Aug 11 2015, 09:22 AM

If I put the Cerato 1.6l in a scania truck, it is still a powerful 1.6l, but can it haul container trailers?

Consider the application, not just paper figures.

This post has been edited by dares: Aug 11 2015, 10:37 AM

change the cerato kx rear light to the 2.0..kx punya ugly la..

Don't be a dumbfuck. I said most powerful 1.6L car not engine. The application is to drive the car. Taking out the engine to put in a truck and saying that it's underpowered is not the intended application.

My conclusion is based on actual application not paper figures. But your rhetoric is really idiotic.

Try to educate yourself what is power-to-weight ratio before calling people names mmkay? Because apparently you did not understand what I mean by "consider the application"

Calling the Cerato the most power 1.6l new car currently on the market makes me laugh.

I am well aware of power-to-wait ratios. Your statement is still dumb and out of context. Did the TS say he wants to take out the Cerato's engine and put it in his Scania truck? Or do you seriously think that the Cerato is too big a car for a 1.6L engine? If you think so, you are making a wrong assumption.

Pls enlighten me then on what 1.6L car is more powerful than the Cerato in the same segment? I would be happy to stand corrected. Context here is very important. I am talking about the car as it is against other cars available in the same segment.

Apologies if my earlier comment sounded harsh, but the absurdity of what you said in the context of this discussion is really phenomenal.

You said all 1.6 na cars in Malaysia, didn't mention old or new car.

This topic is comparing cerato 1.6 to cerato 2.0.

And for new cars, I believe saga 1.6 is more powerful power to weight ratio wise.

Or how about we turn thing around, and ask yourself why other manufacturers that produce the same segment car yet mostly using 1.8?

Think off the most popular c segs sedans in bolehland, both altis and civic offers minimum 1.8

That should mean something, isn't it?

The Scania rhetoric is an exaggerated example to illustrate the factor of power-to-weight ratio.

Unfortunately, the only other 1.6NA C-segment in M'sia are Preve and Elantra, so that's not saying a lot. Other C-segments are at least 1.8l and above.

As mentioned above, in the same segment (C segment), it has one of the weakest engine.

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Yea the 1.6l Gamma is one of the most powerful new 1.6NA engines in M'sia, but it means nothing when it is made to haul a heavy car. There is a reason why so few C-segments in M'sia uses a 1.6NA engine.

Notwithstanding the fact that you said "most powerful 1.6NA car" earlier, instead of "most powerful 1.6NA C-segment", Cerato is:

Most powerful C-segment - NO
Most powerful 1.6NA car - NO
Most powerful 1.6NA C-segment - YES

Let's face it, 130PS pushing 1.3 tonnes is nothing to shout about.

This post has been edited by dares: Aug 11 2015, 01:13 PM

Don't worry bro... I agree with your point.
Too many people trolling here though.
btw, I've had read some reviews in 'carbase'. Some people mentioned about dashboard quality...
izzit quite bad?

to be honest how bad is the 1.6? let say compare it with preve 1.6 NA, persona 1.6, or maybe we can pick vios 1.5 and honda city 1.5.
i never had an esp with 1.6 na..the only 1.6 i drive is prince thp which is out of the context.

Whether underpowered or not depends on the expectation of the driver. If 2.0L engine can power a D-segment car it should be possible for 1.6L engine to power a C-segment car comfortably. Of course some will say a 2.0L D-segment car is underpowered but buyers of these cars will disagree. Paper spec may not mean much when what's really important is the torque curve and not a single figure on paper.

http://www.carbase.my/car-comparison?id=7i...JaBa,4ajCyc3sKd,

a quick glance, Preve and Cerato is among the heaviest, both around 1300kg.

Given Preve have 107hp only, will make it the worst, 82hp per tonne.

Cerato : 100hp per tonne
City: 107hp per tonne
Vios: 97hp per tonne


On the other hand, some extreme examples:
Myvi : 109 hp per tonne
Fiesta EB : 110hp per tonne
Swift Sport: 122 hp per tonne

I think now most powerful 1.6NA new car you can buy in malaysia is probably suzuki swift sport which even have manual and 12k discount at the moment but it's not what we are discussing in this topic

yep..the car is a good example of fun without so much power.

No idea about the dashboard quality. At that price point and level of equipment I can't say there is much to complain about.

The 2.0 liter where it is price squarely in competition with the likes of Mazda3, Civic, Focus etc...suddenly it doesn't seem to be value for money like it's 1.6l sibling. Not to mention, when I enquired about it, they do not offer any bonuses ie free service for the 2.0l. It almost seems like Naza is not keen to sell the 2.0l Cerato.

For daily driving it is fine. I test drove the 1.6l Cerato in urban roads and I have no complaints.

My beef is with claims like below

1.6cc road tax rm90
2.0cc road tax rm 300+

2.0cc better more power