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carloz28
post Aug 10 2015, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(jacckl @ Aug 10 2015, 12:15 PM)
agree on ibe, markovic was getting chances on wing last season though he play more as wing back. if markovic still didnt improve this season, we gonna have another flop. i'm partially giving up on lallana, i thought he was suppose to have no problem integrate into the team but it seem his contribution is really insignificant. firminho 15 mins appearance make more impact than lallana.
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It's a Brit thing. Come in with a high price tag and showed little to justify. Won't rate him as a flop yet the signs are pointing at that route. He wasnt a bad player in his Soto days but not jaw droppin either but i guess one dont need to look far to understand why he is struggling.
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Aug 10 2015, 12:24 PM)
couth's price was 3 or 4 years ago when he was mostly unused sub while firmino makes his mark in his professional and national club. But ayam cukur we got 2 of them on our team. I was hoping for a german
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Yeah

That's why the forum will expect more of Firminho in a shorter return period! More crucifixion if he does not deliver soon! laugh.gif
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post Aug 10 2015, 12:30 PM

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i think BR needs to ease the pressure on Ibe to be the next Sterling. Give the boy time to develop.
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QUOTE(bmuu @ Aug 10 2015, 12:30 PM)
i think BR needs to ease the pressure on Ibe to be the next Sterling. Give the boy time to develop.
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i dont think there is any pressure on Ibe.
afterall, hes not guaranteed a start in every game...plus we got plenty of wingers who cost alot of money tongue.gif
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post Aug 10 2015, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 10 2015, 11:45 AM)
Gk launches high ball into opposition half, striker heads the ball, another striker chases down the second ball, and score. Simple and effective.
Not everytime, must tiki taka, pass, pass, pass, only can score.

It is a big loss if Benteke aerial power is not being effective used.

What is football about?
To score goal!
Whether it is aerial, long range thunderbolt, tap in, it doesn't matter as long as the team can consistently put the ball into the net.

The positive about yesterday is, fullback look pretty solid in defending with Clyne and Gomez at both flank.

Midfielder simply too crowded and narrow. Hendo, Milner, Coutino, Lallana all were playing more central, except Ibe.
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Well, hopefully last year (stupidity) arrogance thought him a lesson. Everyone knows he should have gotten the boot. I think he could count his blessings, given the shake up FSG allowed the rest to go and left Rodgers in his capacity.

The reality is as such, as much as we get doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif again and again at his kock & bull "technical brilliance", he was given a 2nd chance. Many of us may not like it, but we will have to live with it (for now).

The game we play is required to have some mixes in the game. Yes most successful managers have a tested and tried formula that they utilised to prepared them in ALL teams they manage, BUT they have back up plans. which at time work, sometimes not as successful.

Rodgers has zero successful strategy to begin with. (and those BR fans, stop bringing in the 2nd season where suarez & gerrard + SAS launch a good season) it masked all rodgers ineptness as a manager only for him to cock up 2 games towards the end. (0-2) chelsea & (3-3) crystal Palace. major kock-up. mad.gif


He didn't learn his lesson last season (thinking it was him that gave liverpoolfc 2nd place) and continued the clueless gameplan. FSG gave him a 2nd chance this season. We can only hope he realise and accepts that he needs to quickly adapt.

Like i said, it was lucky too that xavi allen got knacked out else he could have started last night. whistling.gif

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post Aug 10 2015, 01:04 PM

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Spyda, our pass completion rate has dropped exponentially without Xavi...this is critical, something needs to be done quick
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post Aug 10 2015, 01:12 PM

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Yeah the result is good. But the performance is totally off. If we don't fix it sooner rather than later we will be exposed and exploited... especially that we are facing big guns in coming games. So its worrying indeed.

Last season I agreed that the kpi for BR is Champions league spot. And he did not achieve that. If it is in my hand I will have him replaced with Rafa. But my focus is always on the team, the club. Coz we don't have any say on who's going to be the manager. FSG decided to stick with BR... so that's how it's gonna be. To me, it was never about pro-BR or anti-BR. It is always about supporting the team.

Btw I'm glad my prediction came true... cool.gif
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QUOTE(farisq @ Aug 10 2015, 01:12 PM)
Yeah the result is good. But the performance is totally off. If we don't fix it sooner rather than later we will be exposed and exploited... especially that we are facing big guns in coming games. So its worrying indeed.

Last season I agreed that the kpi for BR is Champions league spot. And he did not achieve that. If it is in my hand I will have him replaced with Rafa. But my focus is always on the team, the club. Coz we don't have any say on who's going to be the manager. FSG decided to stick with BR... so that's how it's gonna be. To me, it was never about pro-BR or anti-BR. It is always about supporting the team.

Btw I'm glad my prediction came true...  cool.gif
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post Aug 10 2015, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Aug 10 2015, 02:04 PM)
Spyda, our pass completion rate has dropped exponentially without Xavi...this is critical, something needs to be done quick
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as much as we hope allen recovers (but not too quickly whistling.gif , he needs a rest given the workload he carried liverpool time and again)


I really don't buy rodgers need to "school" opposition teams on how to play football (possession win games). Score goals (plenty) & don't concede goals as often as we have for the past 3 seasons. and as farisq mentioned the teams (LFc club) first.


The other day someone shared on FB how far we have fallen behind the other teams in club rankings (behind spurs!!), in europe too (Lfc is only ranked 33/34th) vmad.gif

We can share all the stats that we have good fan base & loyalty support, the reality is that rodgers liverpoolfc dropped in standings further behind since. Lower than LFc managed by houllier's, rafa & kenny daglish. vmad.gif
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post Aug 10 2015, 01:56 PM

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Logical player rating?

OK, i finally found one. This one make most sense of all.

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Paul Joyce: "Lucas left out of the squad entirely following a fall-out which presumably now promotes the prospect of a parting. He would need replacing."


babai lucas cry.gif
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QUOTE(leftist @ Aug 10 2015, 03:17 PM)
babai lucas cry.gif
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well, there is no reason to remain.

rodger is manager, he believes Xavi allen >>>>> Lucas Leiva. Its deflating to know how this exist in his mind even if we feel & think rodgers is completely wrong.

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post Aug 10 2015, 02:23 PM

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br had been trying to get rid of lucas from day 1...we do have decent replacement in Can. hopefully lucas will a deserved send off from the fans
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QUOTE(jacckl @ Aug 10 2015, 02:23 PM)
br had been trying to get rid of lucas from day 1...we do have decent replacement in Can. hopefully lucas will a deserved send off from the fans
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Can is good..but I think we need another CM juz to be safe...Allen is injury prone while Rossiter is still raw
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post Aug 10 2015, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(yeelong @ Aug 10 2015, 01:56 PM)
Logical player rating?

OK, i finally found one. This one make most sense of all.

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Mignolet should get 6.0, yes its a clean sheet game, but many times when the players run and look at Mignolet hoping him to distribute for a counter attack, he slowed down and wave the hand asking all the players to get the fuck off and take his own sweet time to slowly cross. This could be BR restricting him to do any sort of counter attack.

And Lallana should be getting 4.0 if Ibe got 5.0. Agree on all others.
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Can is more box2box midfielder than a defensive midfielder.
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post Aug 10 2015, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(farisq @ Aug 10 2015, 01:12 PM)
To me, it was never about pro-BR or anti-BR. It is always about supporting the team.

Btw I'm glad my prediction came true...  cool.gif
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Is BR part of the team?
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post Aug 10 2015, 05:03 PM

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“I was pleased with both the performance and result today,” he said. “I think we showed a different type of will and character than last time we were here.

“We defended really, really well with good organisation and we knew that if we could hold the game and stay tight, as the game wore on then obviously our quality could come through. And it worked perfectly for us and I thought the players were outstanding.”

Rodgers did concede, though, that there was an element of luck to Liverpool’s winning goal, with the Reds boss about to substitute Coutinho just seconds before his winner.

“He has only come back into the fold a lot later than the others,” Rodgers said. “We changed his positions, he started centrally, and you obviously want to keep him on the pitch for as long as possible.

“But we felt that maybe towards the end of the game Glen [Johnson] was going forward more - and he is good at getting forward - and we were losing out defensively on that side. And you try and leave it for as long as you can, as he has that magic.

“What a goal though – his body work to turn out Stevey Sidwell, who is a really strong player, and to get away and hit the strike at that late stage of the game, and the first game, was a wonderful, wonderful goal.”

The Liverpool coach also spoke highly of new £32.5m signing Christian Benteke after the Belgian’s competitive debut for the club, despite the striking not scoring.

“I thought Christian was outstanding,” said Rodgers. “He showed all the elements of his game today: his touch, hold-up play, movement in behind. He always really occupies a back four, on his own at times, and it is important to have that ability to be unpredictable.”

Rodgers, however, refused to get carried away with Liverpool’s victory, even though it came on a ground where they have traditionally tended to struggle in the Premier League era.

“We still have a lot of work to do with the new players coming in, but certainly today was a great start for us. It is only the first game of the season and there is still a hell of a long way to go,” he added.

“We had to come here and put on a performance and win. It is difficult to come to Stoke at any time and win, but to come on the back of where we were last season really shows you the character and personality now in the team.

Spot the keywords guys? rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Aug 10 2015, 05:03 PM)
“I was pleased with both the performance and result today,” he said. “I think we showed a different type of will and character than last time we were here.

“We defended really, really well with good organisation and we knew that if we could hold the game and stay tight, as the game wore on then obviously our quality could come through. And it worked perfectly for us and I thought the players were outstanding.”

Rodgers did concede, though, that there was an element of luck to Liverpool’s winning goal, with the Reds boss about to substitute Coutinho just seconds before his winner.

“He has only come back into the fold a lot later than the others,” Rodgers said. “We changed his positions, he started centrally, and you obviously want to keep him on the pitch for as long as possible.

“But we felt that maybe towards the end of the game Glen [Johnson] was going forward more - and he is good at getting forward - and we were losing out defensively on that side. And you try and leave it for as long as you can, as he has that magic.

“What a goal though – his body work to turn out Stevey Sidwell, who is a really strong player, and to get away and hit the strike at that late stage of the game, and the first game, was a wonderful, wonderful goal.”

The Liverpool coach also spoke highly of new £32.5m signing Christian Benteke after the Belgian’s competitive debut for the club, despite the striking not scoring.

“I thought Christian was outstanding,” said Rodgers. “He showed all the elements of his game today: his touch, hold-up play, movement in behind. He always really occupies a back four, on his own at times, and it is important to have that ability to be unpredictable.”

Rodgers, however, refused to get carried away with Liverpool’s victory, even though it came on a ground where they have traditionally tended to struggle in the Premier League era.

“We still have a lot of work to do with the new players coming in, but certainly today was a great start for us. It is only the first game of the season and there is still a hell of a long way to go,” he added.

“We had to come here and put on a performance and win. It is difficult to come to Stoke at any time and win, but to come on the back of where we were last season really shows you the character and personality now in the team.

Spot the keywords guys? rclxms.gif
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Spent 80mil to give a 0-1 revenge on Stoke who didnt spend at all? Owait they got Johnson lel
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post Aug 10 2015, 05:22 PM

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For some, the season is already over.

a) Spent 80 mil and got an away 1-0 win at Stoke.
b) Lousy play
c) BR won't make it to January
d) Benteke will flop. For the matter, most of them will.

Season's over. Bring in the next!

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