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Model Kits Gundam & Mecha modelling thread V37, Ver Revive
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Oct 8 2015, 12:31 AM
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Oct 8 2015, 07:27 AM
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Oct 8 2015, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE(IsaacLiew52 @ Oct 8 2015, 12:28 PM) this the trouble that got me headache, beciz I love the original shinning paint. The metallic is a bit dark compared to the original version. Btw, is there any other shining gold marker or paint? show us a pic before sanding.ok thanks for the suggestion, going to try it soon. Hope it's works |
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Oct 8 2015, 12:44 PM
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Fellow sifus and veterans, im looking to buy my 1st airbrush set and I'm not sure what I should be looking at. People tell me the compressor is 25psi but I searched the model online and it says Working pressure 2~15PSI. Is this enough? :\ What is the minimum working/maximum PSI I should be finding? And can anyone recommend me a compressor model?
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Oct 8 2015, 01:10 PM
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QUOTE(yijinchua @ Oct 8 2015, 12:44 PM) Fellow sifus and veterans, im looking to buy my 1st airbrush set and I'm not sure what I should be looking at. People tell me the compressor is 25psi but I searched the model online and it says Working pressure 2~15PSI. Is this enough? :\ What is the minimum working/maximum PSI I should be finding? And can anyone recommend me a compressor model? for me 1.5bar is enough, you will only require higher pressure to do some higher end air brushing or finer metallic paint finish.Thanks in advance. some japan made mini compressor even go lower than that. just go for mini compressors if you are not sure air brushing suits you but for the long term investment go for conventional compressors with air tank for smoother steady pressure air brushing... |
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Oct 8 2015, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE(heally82 @ Oct 8 2015, 01:10 PM) for me 1.5bar is enough, you will only require higher pressure to do some higher end air brushing or finer metallic paint finish. Thx for the response some japan made mini compressor even go lower than that. just go for mini compressors if you are not sure air brushing suits you but for the long term investment go for conventional compressors with air tank for smoother steady pressure air brushing... |
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Oct 8 2015, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE(yijinchua @ Oct 8 2015, 01:22 PM) should be all right, so here are some info on compressors might bore u some how but useful when you choose compressor.pressure always work inverse proportion with air flow, meaning higher air pressure cannot get high air flow for conventional design so our case has to be average pressure optimal 0.6 to 1.5bar, as for air flow roughly 10l/min actually more than enough unless you're trying to use it to paint your car. so dont be fooled by some specs shown long term consideration mini compressors usually either mini piston or majority are membrane diaphragm design, mine broken down recently and cant maintain pressure because of diaphragm teared, so dont believe motor spoiled crap coz usually motor will last rather longer than air your pumping areas. so mini compressor might be cheap but bare in mind only accept them if they provided 1 year warranty (mine broken less than a year) below are the pics for your references » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Oct 8 2015, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE(heally82 @ Oct 8 2015, 01:34 PM) should be all right, so here are some info on compressors might bore u some how but useful when you choose compressor. wow... tis didnt bore me at all to be honest. A lot of good information ^^ Well, even though I would like to get a big compressor, there are 3 things restricting me from getting them. pressure always work inverse proportion with air flow, meaning higher air pressure cannot get high air flow for conventional design so our case has to be average pressure optimal 0.6 to 1.5bar, as for air flow roughly 10l/min actually more than enough unless you're trying to use it to paint your car. so dont be fooled by some specs shown long term consideration mini compressors usually either mini piston or majority are membrane diaphragm design, mine broken down recently and cant maintain pressure because of diaphragm teared, so dont believe motor spoiled crap coz usually motor will last rather longer than air your pumping areas. so mini compressor might be cheap but bare in mind only accept them if they provided 1 year warranty (mine broken less than a year) below are the pics for your references » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 1) Room space, my room now is jam packed there's no place for me to put such a hugh compressor in my room right now. 2) Budget, I'm currently a student and have no income other than allowances from my parents (not really that much) so can't reli spend so much. 3) Interest, I have never ever airbrushed so I still don't know whether I would like it yet. So, spending so much on something that i'm still unsure of is kinda risky. But thanks for the advice. Glad to hear that the TK96 would be ok. Otw to buy it now |
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Oct 8 2015, 02:11 PM
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Oct 8 2015, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE(yijinchua @ Oct 8 2015, 01:50 PM) wow... tis didnt bore me at all to be honest. A lot of good information ^^ Well, even though I would like to get a big compressor, there are 3 things restricting me from getting them. ohh then would be quite big problem for you, let me elaborate...1) Room space, my room now is jam packed there's no place for me to put such a hugh compressor in my room right now. 2) Budget, I'm currently a student and have no income other than allowances from my parents (not really that much) so can't reli spend so much. 3) Interest, I have never ever airbrushed so I still don't know whether I would like it yet. So, spending so much on something that i'm still unsure of is kinda risky. But thanks for the advice. Glad to hear that the TK96 would be ok. Otw to buy it now air brushing paints will have acrylic, enamel and lacquer, for acrylic might suitable for you coz no strong smell and basically less hazardous for the last 2 you might need some air ventilation going to avoid being screwed by your roomies and also some paint mask to avoid health issues. the problem for acrylic is this, its quite expensive and come in small amount, might need others help to get cheaper source option like industrial grade acrylics like recently just found my replacement mgm top coat from a car paint supplier with many times cheaper. also if you considering painting outdoor, aside from power source you also restricted by weather issues (even wind direction can cause nuisance) so i might recommend you build a small air suction box (which we call it paint booth) from some small box with 4 to 5 inch computer fan and airway piping should be sufficient for you. below is a large version for your references: try look around taobao which might get you lots of these parts cheaper, use middle party like buy2taobao if these parts cant support international shipments to save money, diy and cheapskate china brand is the way to go... |
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Oct 8 2015, 05:21 PM
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Oct 8 2015, 10:34 PM
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QUOTE(heally82 @ Oct 8 2015, 02:12 PM) ohh then would be quite big problem for you, let me elaborate... thanks again for the noob-friendly advice air brushing paints will have acrylic, enamel and lacquer, for acrylic might suitable for you coz no strong smell and basically less hazardous for the last 2 you might need some air ventilation going to avoid being screwed by your roomies and also some paint mask to avoid health issues. the problem for acrylic is this, its quite expensive and come in small amount, might need others help to get cheaper source option like industrial grade acrylics like recently just found my replacement mgm top coat from a car paint supplier with many times cheaper. also if you considering painting outdoor, aside from power source you also restricted by weather issues (even wind direction can cause nuisance) so i might recommend you build a small air suction box (which we call it paint booth) from some small box with 4 to 5 inch computer fan and airway piping should be sufficient for you. below is a large version for your references: try look around taobao which might get you lots of these parts cheaper, use middle party like buy2taobao if these parts cant support international shipments to save money, diy and cheapskate china brand is the way to go... But if I want to do mirror chrome/candy coat, I have to use Lacquet no matter what rite? Since acrylics aren't that strong. Also, someone adviced me and said its better not to use the same airbrush for both acrylic and lacquer, instead get an airbrush for each. or else it'll spoil easily. I'm planning on doing a spray booth also |
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Oct 9 2015, 12:51 AM
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QUOTE(yijinchua @ Oct 8 2015, 10:34 PM) thanks again for the noob-friendly advice Actually that's not the case unless you have used epoxy type of top coat else the rest of the paint no matter acrylic or lacquer can be clean by soaking overnight, downside of doing that you might need to replace all the rubber o rings. But if you remain cleaning the airbrush everytime you change paint type or color you should be ok. General purpose thinner should be ok, I have been using all the while and it's cheap.But if I want to do mirror chrome/candy coat, I have to use Lacquet no matter what rite? Since acrylics aren't that strong. Also, someone adviced me and said its better not to use the same airbrush for both acrylic and lacquer, instead get an airbrush for each. or else it'll spoil easily. I'm planning on doing a spray booth also For the record, I purchase my mini compressor and air brush set for around rm180. You can skip the carrying bag, you can take mine if you want. |
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Oct 9 2015, 07:32 AM
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Oct 9 2015, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE(yijinchua @ Oct 8 2015, 01:50 PM) wow... tis didnt bore me at all to be honest. A lot of good information ^^ Well, even though I would like to get a big compressor, there are 3 things restricting me from getting them. my compressor is AC168, it's size of a small MG Gundam box, it can do more than 25psi and comes with a pressure regulator + water/dust filter & comes with auto cut once pressure reach the setting. but can be noisy tak tak tak tak if you plan to use it at night.1) Room space, my room now is jam packed there's no place for me to put such a hugh compressor in my room right now. 2) Budget, I'm currently a student and have no income other than allowances from my parents (not really that much) so can't reli spend so much. 3) Interest, I have never ever airbrushed so I still don't know whether I would like it yet. So, spending so much on something that i'm still unsure of is kinda risky. But thanks for the advice. Glad to hear that the TK96 would be ok. Otw to buy it now http://cnriptide.diytrade.com/sdp/427171/4...sor_AC-168.html i use Sparmax dual action 0.3D airbrush that can be bought around rm200++ from Hobbysearch. http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/search?typ1_c=10...archkey=sparmax you buy those cheap compact compressor you cannot run it for too long it will overheat, those tiny motor also won't last as long. you buy those cheap China airbrush, anytime the trigger spring can break. mine break just after using 3 sessions. if want buy at least buy a decent one. This post has been edited by advocado: Oct 9 2015, 12:35 PM |
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QUOTE(heally82 @ Oct 9 2015, 12:51 AM) Actually that's not the case unless you have used epoxy type of top coat else the rest of the paint no matter acrylic or lacquer can be clean by soaking overnight, downside of doing that you might need to replace all the rubber o rings. But if you remain cleaning the airbrush everytime you change paint type or color you should be ok. General purpose thinner should be ok, I have been using all the while and it's cheap. don't really need to soak overnight... just wipe the paint cup as clean as you can after washing with thinner and keep the airbrush spraying until it's clean, soak up any remnants at bottom of cup & spray thinner again and dip the head into a cup of thinner to clean the tip.For the record, I purchase my mini compressor and air brush set for around rm180. You can skip the carrying bag, you can take mine if you want. |
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Oct 9 2015, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(heally82 @ Oct 8 2015, 02:12 PM) ohh then would be quite big problem for you, let me elaborate... pic of your cheaper industrial grade acrylic to coat. comes with special thinner? price?air brushing paints will have acrylic, enamel and lacquer, for acrylic might suitable for you coz no strong smell and basically less hazardous for the last 2 you might need some air ventilation going to avoid being screwed by your roomies and also some paint mask to avoid health issues. the problem for acrylic is this, its quite expensive and come in small amount, might need others help to get cheaper source option like industrial grade acrylics like recently just found my replacement mgm top coat from a car paint supplier with many times cheaper. |
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QUOTE(advocado @ Oct 9 2015, 12:44 PM) It's industrial grade MGM top coat type paint, it's not acrylic but epoxy use for base coat or extra protection.Also i bought my mini compressor from cheap china brand also motor runs perfect just the diaphragm understandably breaks after certain running cycles. All compressor will have to service no matter what over certain cycles of running. Yes mini compressor will over heat due to lack of cooling fan unlike bigger compressor do. There's certain people dot know the air brushes can be salvage by thinner soaking due to lack of care and proper cleaning, mainly it's clog of paint over some time use. It's crucial to know how to take apart your air brushes and clean them. For starters better start with mini compressor with cheaper airbrush to get the hang of how air brush works. Unless you have spare cash to unload. So cheapest option is mini compressor with hd180 china made, I might be lucky coz no major breakdown until now. This post has been edited by heally82: Oct 9 2015, 03:02 PM |
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