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post Jan 9 2008, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(dotcom @ Jan 9 2008, 10:50 AM)
N95 is using Carl Z lens rite?
what is the diff Carl Z n CCD lens? which is better?
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Carl Z is the lens.
CCD is the sensor.
These two are different things.
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post Jan 9 2008, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(lokewh @ Jan 9 2008, 08:00 AM)
I wonder why all photos taken by this camera phone is at Aperture f2.8 and ISO 50.  Is it a standard exif they can show?
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I did experience diffferent Aperture biggrin.gif
F/5.6 smile.gif
I think this is the 1st camera phone that the aperture can be changed automatically.

QUOTE(shockk @ Jan 9 2008, 09:53 AM)
The 902 is using variable aperture. It will pre-set to F2.8 and F5.6. F5.6 mostly during bright environment, etc.
But the ISO setting is rather problematic. I also keep experiencing it showing ISO 50 on the EXIF all the time even when I manually adjust the ISO.
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post Jan 9 2008, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(lokewh @ Jan 9 2008, 10:58 AM)
Carl Z is the lens.
CCD is the sensor.
These two are different things.
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Yup imagine wearing carl zeiss glasses and your eyes are CCD... brows.gif Then can capture picture anytime.... brows.gif

My father still haven't decide which one to get, a cheapo Nokia phone (cause he always use Nokia and so used to it) or this 902. He said he need big phonebook ler, 500 still limited...Can this phone view sim card phonebook and built in phonebook at the same time? hmm.gif
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post Jan 9 2008, 01:45 PM

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Yes, it can. But I'm not sure your father is a very patient fellow. This phone sometimes will annoy people laugh.gif as the UI is quite slow.
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post Jan 9 2008, 01:52 PM

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ohh...carl Z is the lens... okie i got it...
how bout N95 they use ccd or cmos sensor?
and 902 using wat type of lens?
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post Jan 9 2008, 02:12 PM

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I-Mobile using Sony lens but not Carl Zeiss lens.
N95 using CMOS sensor.
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post Jan 9 2008, 02:13 PM

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902 using normal lens. correct me if wrong.

N95 is CMOS sensor. so far only phone I-mobile 902 and SE S700i using CCD sensor.
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post Jan 9 2008, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(nicks @ Jan 9 2008, 02:13 PM)
902 using normal lens. correct me if wrong.

N95 is CMOS sensor. so far only phone I-mobile 902 and SE S700i using CCD sensor.
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902 using Sony lens.

CCD sensor also available in Sharp 903sh mate smile.gif
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post Jan 9 2008, 02:24 PM

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hohoho, not really "love" 903sh, maybe is hard to find it? biggrin.gif

btw, thanks for the info.
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post Jan 9 2008, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Jan 9 2008, 01:45 PM)
Yes, it can. But I'm not sure your father is a very patient fellow. This phone sometimes will annoy people laugh.gif as the UI is quite slow.
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Thanks for the info! biggrin.gif

He's quite businessman type but main use phone to call and sms only, seldom use other functions, moreover he's OK with Nokia 2630 kind of function (which is also slow, haven't got it yet so it's either 902 or Nokia 2630) so apart from phonebook size the i902 is pretty much a plus for him. Slow is OK as long as call can jalan then ok le. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(nicks @ Jan 9 2008, 12:54 AM)
^ i think ur pic is overexposed. try reduce EV to -0.3
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i think they are just right tho...
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QUOTE(xtorm @ Jan 9 2008, 04:36 PM)
i think they are just right tho...
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Yup, I think they're OK. If fancy editing with Photoshop, a little more contrast will do, and ever so slightly little more brightness. smile.gif
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post Jan 9 2008, 05:16 PM

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can the 904sh n 911T camera beat this 902 ? laugh.gif
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post Jan 9 2008, 08:25 PM

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okay... i got good news and bad news.

the good news is my supplier able to supply few units, as per claim by him.

the bad news is,
-- only limited to 3 units
-- price quoted to me is RM820nett
-- stock is unofficial; he might not able to get stock. Its only quoted to my by imobile.

How?? anyone find any cheaper??? where to get RM7xx ones???

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post Jan 9 2008, 09:16 PM

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laugh.gif RM 820. Go ahead. The stock is limited. Take it or you gonna feel sad if you can't get 1 in hand tongue.gif


Added on January 9, 2008, 10:06 pmMore photos to poison everyone whistling.gif

Nothing to do at home yawn.gif

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Something block the view. Take again.

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Tail light shot again. Handheld but hand stick to wall tongue.gif

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I like this very much biggrin.gif

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The Almighty 902 tongue.gif
All photos taken under very low light or totally dark condition with night mode and EV +2.0

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post Jan 9 2008, 10:21 PM

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Very nice pictures KTCY!

What's the exposure time on all these photos? I think need very steady hands right? Did you try ISO200 with EV-0.5~-1 (or even -2)? Should have the shutter operate in shorter time although noisier, I'm curious about the ISO performance as CCD normally has lower noise than CMOS. hmm.gif

I didn't go hunt for the phone today as I only go Pavilion to play around with the Nokia set I'm looking at for my father, see which one is better. Going to hunt tomorrow at sg wang or lowyat hopefully some shop got la... sad.gif

EDIT: Just check the EXIF, 4 sec on ISO50, obviously ISO50 has very low noise but is it more than 4 sec shutter time? hmm.gif Maybe you should try combination of ISO100 without EV or ISO200 with EV negative value as mentioned above? hmm.gif

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post Jan 9 2008, 10:22 PM

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u make me feel like selling off my p1i and get this lol
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QUOTE(lowyatguy @ Jan 9 2008, 10:22 PM)
u make me feel like selling off my p1i and get this lol
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That is exchanging smartphone feature for super camera woh...Unless you don't use any smartphone features at all? hmm.gif
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post Jan 9 2008, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(pigcat @ Jan 9 2008, 10:21 PM)
Very nice pictures KTCY!

What's the exposure time on all these photos? I think need very steady hands right? Did you try ISO200 with EV-0.5~-1 (or even -2)? Should have the shutter operate in shorter time although noisier, I'm curious about the ISO performance as CCD normally has lower noise than CMOS. hmm.gif

I didn't go hunt for the phone today as I only go Pavilion to play around with the Nokia set I'm looking at for my father, see which one is better. Going to hunt tomorrow at sg wang or lowyat hopefully some shop got la... sad.gif

EDIT: Just check the EXIF, 4 sec on ISO50, obviously ISO50 has very low noise but is it more than 4 sec shutter time? hmm.gif Maybe you should try combination of ISO100 without EV or ISO200 with EV negative value as mentioned above? hmm.gif
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Will try when I free. smile.gif

QUOTE(lowyatguy @ Jan 9 2008, 10:22 PM)
u make me feel like selling off my p1i and get this lol
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Sell sell, get this babes tongue.gif

More poison photos tongue.gif

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Purposely do want tongue.gif
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post Jan 9 2008, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(pigcat @ Jan 9 2008, 10:25 PM)
That is exchanging smartphone feature for super camera woh...Unless you don't use any smartphone features at all? hmm.gif
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Well, i dont really like smartphone, i only like PDA phone with windows OS, but hey , this phone is really cheap, with RM800 u can get a uber camera on hand!!! tongue.gif

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