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Investment O'HAKO @ PUCHONG (Ver 2) [OWNERS' THREAD], Japan Developer Enters Malaysia

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post Jan 14 2016, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(foolmelon @ Jan 14 2016, 10:27 AM)
your face skin ticker than wall.
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arigato foolmelon-san
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post Jan 14 2016, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jan 14 2016, 10:26 AM)
haha... from my initial post.... my fren told me its already in their sales kit... thats why i dunno what sort of cemetry they put in... maybe its like what you said....  tongue.gif  tongue.gif maybe you should put all the new issues as your signature apart of the cemetry... lol
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Please accept my apologies mr. aaron1717

I actually read it wrongly, I thought it was you who went to the sales gallery. Hehe

Then I suppose it is the same 'kit'

Not enough space in my signature leh, too many issues already.Apart from the current ones, there will be more.

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post Jan 14 2016, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(foolmelon @ Jan 14 2016, 10:33 AM)
nexona88, dobson mention a lot of time, he will keep repeat the cons daily, receive payment must do work. tongue.gif
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Haha

Alamak, you twisted my words leh mr. melon

I said, I will repeat but never once I receive payment.

Cakap baik2 sikit lah bang

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post Jan 14 2016, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(dobson @ Jan 14 2016, 10:34 AM)
Haha

Alamak, you twisted my words leh mr. melon

I said, I will repeat but never once I receive payment.

Cakap baik2 sikit lah bang

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The one who received payment was not me.

Ask that gentleman who got extra rebate/discounts/freebies.

Since you are a buyer too, maybe you should approach JT for that as well.

Tell him, you are doing a lot for O'hako in this forum.


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post Jan 14 2016, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(Latio @ Jan 14 2016, 10:35 AM)
payment from who?
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alamak!

see, now people salah faham me already.


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post Jan 14 2016, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(gugukrez @ Jan 14 2016, 10:35 AM)
Sorry i VISIT the sales gallery. If you want to know how they handle.. maybe you should VISIT they sales gallery..

Btw if your buyer and you already buy.. If you TERASA having a bad day after purchasing the unit.. then continue terasa la.. if the project it good.. then it good.. if it is bad.. doesn't matter you use how many of your wet tissue cover.. the fire truth still able to be reveal..

Other project no ppl bash.. but ohako kena bash.. why ah? with your reason double standard again? that your defends? or your defend is ask buyer go there survey and think, but actually go there and forget about this project.
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actually there is no need to terasa, do you know you can actually take back all your money?

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post Jan 14 2016, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(jinsailoo @ Jan 14 2016, 10:37 AM)
the SA marimo hire repesent marimo,
you cannot said your staff is doing wrong and none of your business right??

lesson to learn, please choice your agency carefully,
stupid SA will make your company image drop.
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Biasa lah, as I mentioned before.

BAPAK BOREK

ANAK RINTIK

what do u expect?

atas dah macam haram, anjing2 dia mesti haram gak.
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post Jan 14 2016, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(jinsailoo @ Jan 14 2016, 10:39 AM)
yes, you can take back all your money,
but we all know cari makan susah,

just take the 200 kopi money is fine from my POV
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no i meant, the money that you have paid. i m not referring to the booking fees only.

in fact they are not supposed to even forfeit any money according to HDA.

to any of you who has decided to place a booking, please make sure you do not bow down to that!
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post Jan 14 2016, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(gugukrez @ Jan 14 2016, 10:41 AM)
Maybe lemon + Kelvin already sign Bank loan and SPA.. so cannot patah balik..
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who says it is not possible =)
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post Jan 14 2016, 10:43 AM

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Can developers collect booking fee or deposit?

The sale and purchase agreement (Schedule G, H, I or J) as prescribed by the Housing Development (Control and Licensing) Regulations, 1989 (the Housing Regulations) provides very clearly how the purchase price is to be paid. The first 10% is payable immediately upon the signing of the sale and purchase agreement (SPA), not before.

No collection of any payment is allowed before the SPA is signed. Deposit, booking fee, advance payment, administration charges are just some of terms used by some devious developers in their vain attempts to circumvent or contract out of the Housing Regulations and to confuse, mislead and convince naïve house buyers especially the first-timers.

Collection of any payment by a housing developer before the signing of the SPA is an offence. This is very clear under the Housing Regulations and it does not matter what the developer calls it.

The Housing Regulation 11(2) stated: “No housing developer shall collect any payment by whatever name called except as prescribed by the contract of sale”. (In this context’ contract of sale means the SPA)

Commission of such an offence under the Housing Regulations means that the developer in question can be prosecuted, fined and/or even imprisoned under Regulations 13. Even those persons who knowingly and willfully aids, abets, counsel, procures or commands the commission of such an offence shall be liable to be punished.

Prosecution, however, is in the hands of the public prosecutor whose action or non-action the house buyers are not able to dictate. House buyers and indeed the general public are of course at liberty to lodge a complaint against any developer in breach of any housing laws. Such complaints can be lodged with the Enforcement Division of the Ministry of Housing and Local Government: www.kpkt.gov.my

The law as regards non-payment before the signing of the SPA is very clear and house buyers are strongly urged to understand the law and not be misled by some cunning, unscrupulous developers or their smooth talking sales representatives who either do not know the law or simply do not care about the law.

Profit orientated developers care about nothing but profit. The more they sell the more they gain. They engage marketing commission agents and sales representatives whose only mission is to sell. In their quest to sell their products, some unprincipled commission agents (secondary markets included), who are untruthful will not hesitate to mislead, conveniently telling “white lies” and make empty promises to make a quick buck. Some are so well trained in the art of selling they can probably sell sand to the man in the desert.

Ever wondered why the sales office told you there are only five units left but three months later there are more than 10 units still available? Did the developer’s office tell you the unit you want is already booked but called you two days later to congratulate you because the same unit has just become available? Ever gone to a developer’s office in the hope of getting the “Early Bird Discount” advertised the day before only to find that the project was launched more than a year ago?

Filing a claim for refund

Free gifts, rebates, and waivers of this or that are also fairly commonly seen and are often stated to be for a limited time only. House buyers hurry to meet the deadline. Three months later the same advertisement appears, again for a limited time only or perhaps extended due to popular demand. Gimmicks of “Free legal fees” offer but you must use the developer’s panel lawyers are commonly marketed.

The list of marketing ploys used by developers and their marketing alliance goes on and unscrupulous developers and real estate agents are not likely to stop trying to exploit vulnerable house buyers any time soon. House buyers must therefore be very wary and not be easily swayed by promises made by the developer’s office.

House buyers who are already caught in tussles with housing developers over refund of booking fee or deposit are at liberty to file their claims at the Tribunal for Homebuyer Claims (the Housing Tribunal). The Housing Tribunal was set up as an alternative forum for house buyers to save them the costs and hassle of fighting with housing developers in the civil courts.

The filing fee is only RM10; no lawyers are required and hearings are normally fixed within a month. The Housing Tribunal is empowered to hear disputes between house buyers and licensed housing developers even though the SPA is yet to be signed but the claims must be filed within the time frames provided under section 16N of the Housing Development (Control & Licensing) Act 1966 (the HDA). Check out the link: www.kpkt.gov.my – TTPR

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post Jan 14 2016, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(foolmelon @ Jan 14 2016, 10:48 AM)
The cons of the project been discussed since last year April, Lemon and Kelvin still signed the SPA mean they really want it.
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post Jan 14 2016, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(commander571 @ Jan 14 2016, 10:48 AM)
Here's the summary of this project, (FROM my point of view ya)

Density: Ok
Status: Freehold
Price:
1) Abit overpricing if compared to the existing projects like koi (380-400 psf), atmosfera (400 psf), zefer hill (~400psf)
2) IOI project offers similar PSF price but bigger built up
Environment:
1) Located at the end of Jalan Pipit, approximately 2km from the main road.
2) 4 pool shits nearby (2 were covered)
3) Cemetery (15 acres)
4) Metal recycling factory
5) Accessibility (one way in out)
6) Near Sunway and PJ , quite convenient to ppl who work in these two areas.

Design: Very nice, it looks like a mid-high end project

Risks:
First project in Malaysia (no track record)
Piling work not yet started
The proposed bridge might not be materialized in near future. Traffic jam can be a big issue for this area.
Rental game might face stiff competition from other projects nearby.

Personal opinion: Good for own stay, risky if it is for investment purpose.
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post Jan 14 2016, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(gugukrez @ Jan 14 2016, 10:53 AM)
Here's the summary of this project, (FROM Lemon + Kelvin point of view ya)

Density: Ok
Status: Freehold
Price:
1) Price Cheap
2) Ohako project offers bigger built up
Environment:
1) Located at the end of Jalan Pipit, approximately 2km from the main road.
2) 4 pool shits nearby (2 were covered) ( 2 no more ISSUE )
3) Cemetery (15 acres) ( no more ISSUE )
4) Metal recycling factory ( no more ISSUE )
5) Accessibility (one way in out) ( no more ISSUE )
6) Near Sunway and PJ , quite convenient to ppl who work in these two areas.

Design: Very nice, it looks like a mid-high end project

Risks:
No Risk

Personal opinion: Good for own stay, good for investment purpose.
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Haha

I think you are gonna kena shoot nicely for putting words in their mouth.

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post Jan 14 2016, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(tutuyao @ Jan 14 2016, 10:54 AM)
are you the new staff hired by John Taro then? Since you try so hard to counter dobson laugh.gif

ppl just stating the fact and you try so hard to counter him buat apa?

if ppl wouldn't mind cemetery, then they'll buy it. why u so takut?

but to me, cemetery is still a cemetery, i wouldn't want to stay near to there since one day, sooner or after i'll end up there. why so rush?  sweat.gif
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Good one mr.tutuyao

These two gentlemen are purchasers, that is why they are so pro-O'hako.

Money dumped in, of course there will be anxiety

Dream house sudah beli, dah tentu lepas 4 tahun mau duduk mah.

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post Jan 14 2016, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(commander571 @ Jan 14 2016, 10:48 AM)
Here's the summary of this project, (FROM my point of view ya)

Density: Ok
Status: Freehold
Price:
1) Abit overpricing if compared to the existing projects like koi (380-400 psf), atmosfera (400 psf), zefer hill (~400psf)
2) IOI project offers similar PSF price but bigger built up
Environment:
1) Located at the end of Jalan Pipit, approximately 2km from the main road.
2) 4 pool shits nearby (2 were covered)
3) Cemetery (15 acres)
4) Metal recycling factory
5) Accessibility (one way in out)
6) Near Sunway and PJ , quite convenient to ppl who work in these two areas.

Design: Very nice, it looks like a mid-high end project

Risks:
First project in Malaysia (no track record)
Piling work not yet started
The proposed bridge might not be materialized in near future. Traffic jam can be a big issue for this area.
Rental game might face stiff competition from other projects nearby.

Personal opinion: Good for own stay, risky if it is for investment purpose.
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Neutral assessment.

How come no Pros & Cons?

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post Jan 14 2016, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(foolmelon @ Jan 14 2016, 11:00 AM)
gugukrez tell the fact, you no need keep repeat. same payment, or count by post?
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no woh, not stated in my agree with heaven.

akhirat baru tau
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post Jan 14 2016, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(foolmelon @ Jan 14 2016, 11:02 AM)
For many buyer this is their first dream house, somehow any negative comments (not issue for buyer) keep iterating. E.g you married a wife with inner beautiful without much external beautiful, you neighbor who keep asking why you married such ugly women....how you feel?
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feel not nice kuahh...

like what was said, since u think and feel that your decision was the right one... why bother so much what other people say / think / do ?


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post Jan 14 2016, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(commander571 @ Jan 14 2016, 11:03 AM)
One man's meat is another man's poison  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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betul gak tu
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post Jan 14 2016, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(tutuyao @ Jan 14 2016, 11:02 AM)
eh brother Kelvin0685, how much Ohako paid you? Jom la we share 50:50, immediately I turn head come and support you ok?  icon_rolleyes.gif

oh wait, maybe you're the staff.. Nvm, any part time slot for LYN Keyboard Warrior? I si beh kuat one!  thumbup.gif  drool.gif  laugh.gif
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some people received extra benefits/rebates/discounts/freebies hence the extra oomph

we can compare the various purchasers that are lurking in this forum.

ahem

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post Jan 14 2016, 11:08 AM

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why bother what other ppl say / think unless you yourself realized you made a mistake?

decision made, deposit paid, agreements signed. unless after reading all these, you goyang.

sit, pray & wait patiently for 2019 to come biggrin.gif


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