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Investment O'HAKO @ PUCHONG (Ver 2) [OWNERS' THREAD], Japan Developer Enters Malaysia
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dobson
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Jan 5 2016, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE(Bel2016 @ Jan 5 2016, 09:42 AM) I have friends stay @ koi kinrara. Go thru the forum more negative comment than positive. Tt y i wish to know is there any buyer, real buyer beside me. Anyone have idea how to track developer past projects beside their website as all in Japanese. I go thru Indonesia sub, they oni doing service apartment management, china project unable to track the project mentioned. Cemetery direction if looking on Google map is not direct facing, is ok for me then. Traffic may b the main concern. Hopefully would able to cater once all complete. For indah water my fren from koi saw tt they closing 1 of the pond now. May observe time to time. Any1 signing snp? Quite worry as other project a lot owner set up community.... bt here.... dont be misled! indonesian & china direct under marimo japan. this is lead by a different kepala. hence different end product. beware! many of us here are waiting for marimo japan to step in
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dobson
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Jan 5 2016, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(Newbee2016 @ Jan 4 2016, 05:49 AM) May i know if cancel booking, how much will be charged? insist on full refund! under hda laws, they are not supposed to forfeit even a single cent! dont be conned.
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dobson
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Jan 5 2016, 04:28 PM
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CODE Can developers collect booking fee or deposit?
The sale and purchase agreement (Schedule G, H, I or J) as prescribed by the Housing Development (Control and Licensing) Regulations, 1989 (the Housing Regulations) provides very clearly how the purchase price is to be paid. The first 10% is payable immediately upon the signing of the sale and purchase agreement (SPA), not before.
No collection of any payment is allowed before the SPA is signed. Deposit, booking fee, advance payment, administration charges are just some of terms used by some devious developers in their vain attempts to circumvent or contract out of the Housing Regulations and to confuse, mislead and convince naïve house buyers especially the first-timers.
Collection of any payment by a housing developer before the signing of the SPA is an offence. This is very clear under the Housing Regulations and it does not matter what the developer calls it.
The Housing Regulation 11(2) stated: “No housing developer shall collect any payment by whatever name called except as prescribed by the contract of sale”. (In this context’ contract of sale means the SPA)
Commission of such an offence under the Housing Regulations means that the developer in question can be prosecuted, fined and/or even imprisoned under Regulations 13. Even those persons who knowingly and willfully aids, abets, counsel, procures or commands the commission of such an offence shall be liable to be punished.
Prosecution, however, is in the hands of the public prosecutor whose action or non-action the house buyers are not able to dictate. House buyers and indeed the general public are of course at liberty to lodge a complaint against any developer in breach of any housing laws. Such complaints can be lodged with the Enforcement Division of the Ministry of Housing and Local Government: www.kpkt.gov.my
The law as regards non-payment before the signing of the SPA is very clear and house buyers are strongly urged to understand the law and not be misled by some cunning, unscrupulous developers or their smooth talking sales representatives who either do not know the law or simply do not care about the law.
Profit orientated developers care about nothing but profit. The more they sell the more they gain. They engage marketing commission agents and sales representatives whose only mission is to sell. In their quest to sell their products, some unprincipled commission agents (secondary markets included), who are untruthful will not hesitate to mislead, conveniently telling “white lies” and make empty promises to make a quick buck. Some are so well trained in the art of selling they can probably sell sand to the man in the desert.
Ever wondered why the sales office told you there are only five units left but three months later there are more than 10 units still available? Did the developer’s office tell you the unit you want is already booked but called you two days later to congratulate you because the same unit has just become available? Ever gone to a developer’s office in the hope of getting the “Early Bird Discount” advertised the day before only to find that the project was launched more than a year ago?
Filing a claim for refund
Free gifts, rebates, and waivers of this or that are also fairly commonly seen and are often stated to be for a limited time only. House buyers hurry to meet the deadline. Three months later the same advertisement appears, again for a limited time only or perhaps extended due to popular demand. Gimmicks of “Free legal fees” offer but you must use the developer’s panel lawyers are commonly marketed.
The list of marketing ploys used by developers and their marketing alliance goes on and unscrupulous developers and real estate agents are not likely to stop trying to exploit vulnerable house buyers any time soon. House buyers must therefore be very wary and not be easily swayed by promises made by the developer’s office.
House buyers who are already caught in tussles with housing developers over refund of booking fee or deposit are at liberty to file their claims at the Tribunal for Homebuyer Claims (the Housing Tribunal). The Housing Tribunal was set up as an alternative forum for house buyers to save them the costs and hassle of fighting with housing developers in the civil courts.
The filing fee is only RM10; no lawyers are required and hearings are normally fixed within a month. The Housing Tribunal is empowered to hear disputes between house buyers and licensed housing developers even though the SPA is yet to be signed but the claims must be filed within the time frames provided under section 16N of the Housing Development (Control & Licensing) Act 1966 (the HDA). Check out the link: www.kpkt.gov.my – TTPR
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dobson
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Jan 8 2016, 12:48 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 8 2016, 12:30 AM) Confirm developer gonna build the bridge?  I got feel it's 50/50 only  of course developer is not going to build the bridge! CODE don't even have money to commence piling, how to build bridge?
bridge to be built by municipial council, i forgot if its mbbj or mbsj. cost shared by developers in the vicinity
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dobson
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Jan 8 2016, 12:50 PM
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QUOTE(xyber6 @ Jan 7 2016, 09:27 AM) Not to bash. To inform only. I nearly wanted to buy, until I found out about the plant nearby. i agree with you xyber6. sharing tidak salah
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dobson
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Jan 8 2016, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE(jinsailoo @ Jan 7 2016, 09:38 AM) marimo land really attract a lot of new member to join LYN, just for this project new members join lyn? u mean just to read or tokok tambah the comments? or pretend to be buyers? ahem
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dobson
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Jan 8 2016, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE(thecaterpillar @ Jan 7 2016, 11:33 PM) Sounds like u r very defensive even though my statement is not provocative. Well, I think the value will increase once the bridge is there, but the traffic condition might be bad throughout the day, not only during peak hours. so it might not be a desired outcome for residents too. he has always been defensive. purchaser la.. wht u expect? if project lingkup, his money also tapau. of course he has to try his best to help boost the sales etc!!! besides, if u dah dapat habuan.. do u think u will keep quiet and just sit there? senarai purchaser --- kelvin foolmelon serene30 instanttravel (still skeptical though) i believe there are few others but cant recall their nicknames
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dobson
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Jan 8 2016, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 8 2016, 12:54 PM) okay. My bad  chilll
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dobson
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Jan 8 2016, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE(PenangLaksa @ Jan 7 2016, 08:38 PM) Here we go again.... For the benefit of all, this thread might as well be closed so No one can say any more bad things about it wah, because of a few negative comments.. u want this thread to be closed? ahem. i smell canine again... damnnn... at the end of the day, it is up to the potential purchaser to verify and validate whatever that is mentioned here. if something is really good, no amount of bad comments/reviews will affect its reputation / status.
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dobson
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Jan 8 2016, 01:00 PM
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always remember :- CODE Tiada ASAP tanpa API This post has been edited by dobson: Jan 8 2016, 01:00 PM
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dobson
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Jan 8 2016, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE(Bel2016 @ Jan 5 2016, 06:37 PM) u sure u still need details u claim to be a buyer  hehe
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dobson
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Jan 8 2016, 01:05 PM
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QUOTE(love5306 @ Jan 6 2016, 06:04 PM) Went to sales gallery earlier today and just share what the agent told me: 1. The bridge CONFIRM will build. Dev ady contibuted RM2mil to local council. (But then he tell me developer will build the bridge lah, so I not really know what hes trying to say) 2. Agent say the Islam cemetery is at the sunway side, no affect at all. (But when I show him the pic from forum, he go ntg to say.) 3. The agent were saying he can stop his customer to not trust this forum  , but I dunno why he cant convien me 4. He was saying this is THE BEST PROJECT IN TOWN Oh well.. I think is a waste for visiting thier sales gallery.  those idiots duno what they are talking. they are just trying their luck to con anyone who walks in. commission tinggi, mesti lah. nowadays with the power of the internet, how are you going to hide facts! for now, we can only pray hard for the involvement of marimo japan in the o'hako project.
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dobson
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Jan 8 2016, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE(tutuyao @ Jan 5 2016, 02:58 PM) Until today really no progression @ ohako weh.. Buyers takut x? i guess they are takut. either that or they do not know what is going on. just buy, pay money and wait. at the end of the day, wait for LAD to kick in after 48 months. my friends who bought are just praying hard for the parent company to step in and take over this ailing project. This post has been edited by dobson: Jan 8 2016, 01:11 PM
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dobson
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Jan 8 2016, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE(Kelvin0685 @ Jan 8 2016, 02:07 PM) Funny again...I think he should ask u back... dobson...are u spy or agent as u made it too obvious.... If not...den must be something wrong.... me spy? i thought i made it very clear? i was one of them who placed the rm5k booking and cancelled after finding out about the cemetery myself, not via marimo land sdn. bhd.
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dobson
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Jan 8 2016, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE(Kelvin0685 @ Jan 8 2016, 02:10 PM) U think u are god ar...know what marimo wanna do... dunno den dun be just simply say nia... Make ppl think that u are talking nonsense ... Funny again when did i say i know what marimo wanna do? i said purchasers are praying hard for marimo japan to take over. read properly la, i know you koyak but did not know you have problem with your eye sight as well
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dobson
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Jan 8 2016, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE(Kelvin0685 @ Jan 8 2016, 02:09 PM) I think what marimo land wana do is non of ur business ... They are under same group marimo so what they wanna do...who are u...need to get ur permission or opinion kah... funny under same group? know your facts first before replying leh again, did i say have to get my permission or opinion? read properly!
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dobson
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Jan 8 2016, 02:21 PM
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not meant for your eyes then thanks!
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dobson
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Jan 8 2016, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE(Kelvin0685 @ Jan 8 2016, 02:23 PM) Ald said what marimo land or marimo japan...is it any problem... marimo japan founder is Mr Taro ' father... so who do or handle is it any issue...we just wanna see end product ...weird person hahaha gotcha! You just said it yourself, all of you only want to see END-PRODUCT That is what I was waiting from you.
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dobson
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Jan 8 2016, 04:50 PM
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*thumbs up*
yay!
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