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AVFAN
post Jul 19 2015, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jul 19 2015, 06:00 PM)
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don't "mark" la...

come join us, tell us what u hv as "retirement" funds.

i am just starting, like to hear from u. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 20 2015, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 19 2015, 01:37 AM)
Agree... energy and materials been lagging.  Same goes for Gold and Silver.  nod.gif
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u said it! biggrin.gif

Gold hits 5-year low as bets mount on Fed hike

can expect crude to follow suit...

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post Jul 20 2015, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jul 20 2015, 04:47 PM)
Alright,... I am more into trusts and REITs wgich provide income. Currentluy in energy, finance, healthcare and consumer goods sectors. All doing well in terms of cap gain(good margin-of-safety) except for the energy trust. The energy trust suffered pricing-wise, but still giving out an acceptable yield, ie still giving out DPU.. am thnking hard of averaging down further, but still cant decide on the entry price yet.

Guys,... when the Iran sanctions are lifted, there will be more supply of crude into the world mkts. MOre supply,... can go below USD50 per bbl ?  sad.gif
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thanks for sharing... can u name a couple of reits for me to check on?
also, div tax of 30% does not bother you?

crude <50? it might get there this week! tongue.gif
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post Jul 20 2015, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 20 2015, 07:16 PM)
I think what's going to happen is when the actual rate is raised, Dollar will drop, commodities like gold, oil, copper will reverse course.  tongue.gif
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that's precisely what i think will happen - "overshoot" or "buy on the rumur, sell on the fact" syndrome.

be prepared to take profits when it comes. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(ILoveLalat.net @ Jul 20 2015, 07:26 PM)
Looks like Morgan Stanley just top their estimates and with Apple reporting tomorrow and the recent case with Google and Netflix topping the charts, looks like the earnings report is just the beginning.

By the way, any suggestion if the SPY is a perfect indicator for how the market will react at the open?
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i hv watached aapl for the last 2 qtrs earnings reporting euphoria. one was boom-boom the other was zzz... laugh.gif

SPY is s&p500/10 in usd. dunno what else!
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post Jul 20 2015, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jul 20 2015, 08:45 PM)
oh if you plan to take profit on rate hike syndrome, you should start selling now since the drop could be fast as the rally been fast.  biggrin.gif
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oh no, not now.

i watch every move yellen makes. laugh.gif

actually... can watch many things for signs... gold, crude, euro, heck, even rm! tongue.gif
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post Jul 20 2015, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(ILoveLalat.net @ Jul 20 2015, 09:06 PM)
Because there was this one time that I always suggest to follow SPY as the opening indicator than futures and one of the mentioned it is unreliable but I find it the most accurate indicator of all. sweat.gif
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i am more use to djia but think same - just indices... one heavyweights, one broader market. not detached from each other.



tonite, aapl big winner. thumbup.gif

big loser - oil/energy, as expected. think more pain coming...
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post Jul 21 2015, 02:33 AM

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aapl surprisingly fiery, looks like wanting to set new high.

and crude struggles to stay above 50...

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post Jul 21 2015, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(davidcch07 @ Jul 20 2015, 07:15 PM)
Found some of the US REITs that come with 10%+ div.... i also concern about the tax of 30% (non us citizen).... maybe buy in huge batch and hold for long term.... ? Please advice on this Sifu  notworthy.gif
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i hv no exp with us reits, know nothing! biggrin.gif
will stick to sg reits/div stocks which hv been excellent so far.

QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 21 2015, 09:57 AM)
I'm still holding the new batch (aapl)... just wish I went all in last week.. but heck, can't be greedy right.  tongue.gif
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can never get it all.
i'm quite happy to have added at 122. wink.gif

still holding xle? i dumped all oil/energy last week.
took losses but compensated partly by earnings from a series of crude shorts.
think crude will go lower still.
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post Jul 21 2015, 10:34 PM

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dem...!

talked too long on the phone just now, missed shorting at 51.30! tongue.gif

august futures expiry today, so u know...
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post Jul 22 2015, 01:43 AM

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aapl earnings report due after hours at 4.35am.

now down 0.95 at 131.12.

let's hope what happened after last report doesn't repeat. sweat.gif
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post Jul 22 2015, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jul 22 2015, 04:01 AM)
what is your wish? good fruit or bad fruit results?  tongue.gif

crazy bear in fruit after market...hohoho..... drool.gif
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aapl after hours close at 121.80, -7.8%. shocking.gif
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post Jul 22 2015, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(ILoveLalat.net @ Jul 22 2015, 11:41 AM)
GPRO surged more than 6% from the its 11am low. Anyone who did that is definitely lucky.
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gpro and its supplier, amba...
i have traded them a few times.
very volatile, quite common to see 5-8% range for day trades.
too chicken to keep long term. tongue.gif

QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 22 2015, 11:22 AM)
WTF.. oh frack..who shook the apple tree?  mad.gif
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it seems to be repeating what was seen in last qtr.
rammed up before earnings report, then dive upon the data.
recover a bit the day after, then drift lower, lower...
repeat after 3 months, next qtr.
will hv to consider selling when it returns to 130ish... hmm.gif
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post Jul 22 2015, 07:44 PM

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futures improving... coke and boeing earnings beat estimates.

still, the fruit will weigh.

plus crude falling, falling...



think i'll look at fxi and fxp tonite. laugh.gif
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post Jul 22 2015, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 22 2015, 09:38 PM)
Crude still hanging on to $50 so far.. but the floor shaky..  sweat.gif
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broken... heading for 47, i think! laugh.gif
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post Jul 22 2015, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jul 22 2015, 10:32 PM)
oil may retest previous low....not looking good for short term.
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oil will be cheap until sometime in 2016, no escape.

china can use cheap oil; i just took some fxi.

will hunt hk 02828 tmrw. wink.gif
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post Jul 23 2015, 02:28 AM

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anyone watching crude dive?

cruel... shocking.gif
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post Jul 23 2015, 08:14 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 23 2015, 06:43 AM)
Waah.. you're super bearish.   sweat.gif

Oil at 40'sh is like in 2009.. during recession.  But, heck, where's recession now?
Everyone happy go lucky.
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it was around 44 at end jan and mid mar 2015.

44 is possible as a triple bottom.

but more likely to hang around 47.50.

i see still plenty of chance to play crude/energy short and inverse. tongue.gif

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post Jul 23 2015, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 23 2015, 10:27 AM)
Hey.. whatca know. The fruit is at good support here at 125 after so called wall street "disappointment" about their outlook.
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here's the thing i dun quite follow.

so much already returned to shareholders via buyback?

yet the price have not improved since buyback announcement made in apr.

what would happen if the buyback is reduced or halted? hmm.gif

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Apple is also seeking to return more of its growing cash hoard to investors. In April, the company unveiled plans to boost capital return program by $70 billion, increasing a share-buyback authorization by $50 billion and increasing dividends by 11 percent. At the end of June quarter, the company had returned $126 billion of its $200 billion program, including $90 billion in share repurchases, Chief Financial officer Luca Maestri told analysts on Tuesday.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...h-held-overseas

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post Jul 23 2015, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 23 2015, 11:19 AM)
Not just AAPL, lots of other companies (INTC, WFC, XOM, GILD)  are doing this to pump up their EPS.
I think buy back won't stop because they got tons of cash and no where to go.
Eventually, price will improve because of the reduction of shares in market and earnings continue to improve.
Maybe even more volatile too.
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futures now showing aapl 126.14, up 0.73%.

looks ok for now. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 23 2015, 10:58 PM

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tonight looks peaceful and calm... biggrin.gif


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