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danmooncake
post Jul 28 2015, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 28 2015, 10:22 AM)
oil goes below 47, shanghai slumps another 5%.
got any fxp or not? laugh.gif
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Just a bit only.. from last week. let see if this time can break above 42 or not.
Last time, I cabut a bit early.. but also lucky because china bulls (the govt) can turn it around anytime. sweat.gif
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post Jul 28 2015, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 28 2015, 10:25 AM)
Just a bit only.. from last week. let see if this time can break above 42 or not.
Last time, I cabut a bit early.. but also lucky because china bulls (the govt) can turn it around anytime.  sweat.gif
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some analyst...
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Analyst Who Predicted Bottom for Shanghai Stocks Sees Further 14% Plunge
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...-1929-u-s-crash


QUOTE(mikehwy @ Jul 28 2015, 12:26 AM)
Huh! been away for awhile and back to my screen now. seeing loads of sheets of dirt cheap stuff. the prices are getting a bit alien to me atm as i have not seen these low prices for a while. my watchlist s are bleeding.
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maybe rm 4.05 will help... tongue.gif
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"You can try to stabilise the ringgit, but ultimately I don't think it can stand the correction," said Chua Hak Bin, Singapore-based head of emerging Asia economics at Bank of America Merrill Lynch. "The ringgit will have to adjust to whatever new equilibrium... we are forecasting the ringgit to weaken to 3.86 by end-2015 and 4.05 by end-2016 against the dollar."
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/07/27/m...N1042T820150727

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post Jul 28 2015, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 28 2015, 09:17 AM)
it only took a few hours to get there.
oil shorts? may be premature!?
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SP500 ultra Vix short. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 28 2015, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jul 28 2015, 01:47 PM)
SP500 ultra Vix short.  biggrin.gif
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uvxy?

i hv little idea on this one, stick to the easier ones... biggrin.gif
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post Jul 29 2015, 03:48 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 28 2015, 04:19 PM)
uvxy?

i hv little idea on this one, stick to the easier ones... biggrin.gif
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stick to those you familiar. biggrin.gif

very nice today bull, "lucky" i sold all my shorts yesterday. laugh.gif

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post Jul 29 2015, 07:08 AM

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Groupers!!! It's works again.. buying that sp500 (calls and 3x bull shares) when it touches 200ma. drool.gif
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Did you guys read this story?

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/07/28/chinese-far...ost-it-all.html

Uncle farmer invested entire savings of US164K equivalent (convert in RMB, that's like over mln),
then leverage up to 1 mln usd margin (6.2 mln RMB) and buy ONE stock?

And he bought when the SHCOMP index over 4000, because of govt propaganda urging everyone to play..

Everyone will SELL whenever there is a pop opportunity to get their money back.
The institutional players will eat these people alive knowing them have bought on margin.

No wonder China market will crash... with tons of clueless people like this in the market. shakehead.gif

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post Jul 29 2015, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jul 29 2015, 03:48 AM)
stick to those you familiar.  biggrin.gif

very nice today bull, "lucky" i sold all my shorts yesterday.  laugh.gif
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good job! thumbup.gif

i stick to crude. enough fun to play with coins, sometimes can catch a grouper or two. tongue.gif

here's one view for the coming days:
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-“Near term, crude is declining within an extremely steep channel. The market is so weak that the latest bounce couldn’t even make it to channel resistance. 44.60 (close of the 3/18 low day) is a level that could end up providing support for a bounce.” The low for the move so far is 46.66 (close of the low week in March is 46.44). Crude made an outside reversal day today (7/28) at a 17 year trendline today as well. This is a good way (outside reversal) and place (trendline) to form some kind of low.
http://www.dailyfx.com/forex/technical/ell...tWaves_oil.html
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no future for big oil?
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post Jul 29 2015, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 29 2015, 09:30 AM)
Did you guys read this story?

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/07/28/chinese-far...ost-it-all.html

Uncle farmer invested entire savings of US164K equivalent (convert in RMB, that's like over mln),
then leverage up to 1 mln usd margin (6.2 mln RMB) and buy ONE stock?

And he bought when the SHCOMP index over 4000, because of govt propaganda urging everyone to play..

Everyone will SELL whenever there is a pop opportunity to get their money back.
The institutional players will eat these people alive knowing them have bought on margin.

No wonder China market will crash... with tons of clueless people like this in the market.  shakehead.gif
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poor gamblers.
but still, we can't feel pityful for gamblers, can we? They are gamblers. If there is no margin from bank to buy stocks, well, maybe they borrowed from dark market and go Genting to gamble. Not much difference, I think.
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post Jul 29 2015, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 29 2015, 11:12 AM)
good job! thumbup.gif

i stick to crude. enough fun to play with coins, sometimes can catch a grouper or two. tongue.gif

here's one view for the coming days:
no future for big oil?
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I think we can start averaging down already for this commodity. Don't pour in the whole bucket yet, but start to buy in slowly. My TA,...
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post Jul 29 2015, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jul 29 2015, 05:53 PM)
I think we can start averaging down already for this commodity. Don't pour in the whole bucket yet, but start to buy in slowly. My TA,...
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i will wait a bit. it will take time for a few hundred bil capex cancelled to be approved again for big oil spending.


futures now +40.

crude bulls and bears battling it for 3rd round in 3 days at 47.50-47.80.

yellen statement at 2am will be referee who's gonna win... tongue.gif

prepare yr late supper. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 29 2015, 09:11 PM

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damn. twtr is to be short down tonight.
lucky my new stable fb is pushed !!!

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post Jul 29 2015, 10:35 PM

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latest ...

oil inventory :-

17/7 +2.7m barrels
24/7 -2.4m

this causing a knee jerk + oil price atm ....

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post Jul 30 2015, 01:02 AM

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can bear bear return? all in the hands of the most powerful woman in the world, Yellen. tongue.gif
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post Jul 30 2015, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Jul 29 2015, 10:35 PM)
latest ...

oil inventory :-

17/7 +2.7m barrels
24/7 -2.4m

this causing a knee jerk + oil price atm ....
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nice rebound. wish it could continue....it's not good for world economy if oil price too depressing. nod.gif
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wti is up 2.5%, brent only 1.2%.

doesn't look like it will hold to me.

we'll see what effect fed statement will have in 20 mins time...
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post Jul 30 2015, 01:52 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 30 2015, 01:42 AM)
wti is up 2.5%, brent only 1.2%.

doesn't look like it will hold to me.

we'll see what effect fed statement will have in 20 mins time...
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ya. i am also negative on oil price for short term... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jul 30 2015, 01:52 AM)
ya. i am also negative on oil price for short term... hmm.gif
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like gold... too much supply, not much demand... biggrin.gif

maybe now summer, more driving, consumption a bit higher, inventories dropped...?

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post Jul 30 2015, 02:31 AM

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yellen said all good woh....so how? want new high? tongue.gif
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post Jul 30 2015, 02:38 AM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jul 30 2015, 02:31 AM)
yellen said all good woh....so how? want new high?  tongue.gif
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no rate hike until dec, i think.

goota do at least one hike, save face. biggrin.gif

yeah, let market may rally a bit more!

oil... looks like it will soften again...

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