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Investment EKOCHERAS @ JALAN CHERAS (V4) [MRT PROPERTY] [OT], Where Cheras becomes Mont'Jiulai

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Jagalat
post Dec 10 2015, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Dec 9 2015, 11:04 PM)
Jagalat kor, may i suggest that u start a whatsapp discussion group and whoever want to join can pm their mobile no. to u.

Thank you Sir for your effort in helping all purchasers to keep track of the construction progress all the time!!
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There has been a Facebook group created for owners.
I try to avoid redundency of communication effort/platform...

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3021334/+1864

But if most buyers in this forum prefer to use whatapps chat group, then l can setup one.
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post Dec 10 2015, 12:14 PM

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Lol. Thousands High density development. Whatsapp group notification can finish up your phone battery.
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post Dec 10 2015, 12:51 PM

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We have 99 owners in Damansara Foresta whatsapp group now...max is 100

Everyone is enjoying themselves and benefiting from the information sharing...
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post Dec 10 2015, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Dec 9 2015, 09:57 PM)
Only heard of developer getting consent for land initially not charged but subsequently need to get loan which is a messy process

I think they not only need to get purchasers consent but maybe also the end financiers consent

Actually they should call a briefing session for all purchasers...
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EKC has already refinanced the land for a bigger loan sum with or wihout your consent. The letter is just a notification notice to the buyers. The refinancing has already been completed. Personally i am not too concerned if the project delays till 2018. The property mrk will still be in a doldrum till end of 2017 judging fr anecdotal observation which is largely contributed by oversupply of apartments, low oil price, inflation. Let the mrt run its course at the end of 2017 first b4 getting VP for this project. Also retailers are not having a good time now so best let Eko Mall launch in 2018. By then there maybe an upturn in the economy hopefully.
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post Dec 10 2015, 04:22 PM

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So if u guys wanna do a song & dance in front of the developer, leave me out of it..
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post Dec 10 2015, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(WTLW @ Dec 9 2015, 03:30 PM)
Im not a buyer of ekc. What i wan to say is that, when a corporation trying to refinance to other banks, it could be due to many reasons but not neccessarily bcoz of tight cash flow. It could be due to better interest rate / longer loan tenor offered by the bank OR is their corporate strategy to extend their banking relationship with other larger banks for future expansion OR maybe the land value has appreciated over the years that allow them to get higher loan margin to fund other projects. For individual like us, we may view an additional loan would caused us higher commitment, but for large corporation's view, additional borrowings may be their 'weapon'' to grow the biz and eventually turn better ROI. I believe big bank like CIMB has already evaluated eko biz performance b4 they lending out the $, especially if the loan amount involved few hundred millions RM or more. Just my 2cents
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ya there is this possibility, the land valuation chargee to Ambaxk could be ages old, refinance to cimb based on current value will give them a huge cash out for another projects.
the only good thing is cimb already approved means they have the ability to borrow such a huge amount based on paper.
Cimb so kiasi and bank wont do losing business, if ekovxt not good enough, why cimb want to lend them?

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post Dec 10 2015, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(ryan@chua @ Dec 10 2015, 12:14 PM)
Lol. Thousands High density development.  Whatsapp group notification can finish up your phone battery.
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you are the best! rclxms.gif
he borrow from ah long you also know thumbup.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
where you buy, i want to follow you notworthy.gif

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post Dec 10 2015, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(restful increase @ Dec 10 2015, 04:18 PM)
EKC has already refinanced the land for a bigger loan sum with or wihout your consent. The letter is just a notification notice to the buyers. The refinancing has already been completed. Personally i am not too concerned if the project delays till 2018. The property mrk will still be in a doldrum till end of 2017 judging fr anecdotal observation which is largely contributed by oversupply of apartments, low oil price, inflation. Let the mrt run its course at the end of 2017 first b4 getting VP for this project. Also retailers are not having a good time now so best let Eko Mall launch in 2018. By then there maybe an upturn in the economy hopefully.
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any source to verify this?
As per the SPA Sch H clause 2(1), it is clear that developer needs to get approval of purchasers, not notification. However, it seems nothing mention about refinancing of the land.
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post Dec 10 2015, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(MrHunter @ Dec 9 2015, 09:27 PM)
Likely need money for Bandar Malaysia project.
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i thought the money only can be used for ekocheras project.
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QUOTE(gks @ Dec 10 2015, 06:28 PM)
any source to verify this?
As per the SPA Sch H clause 2(1), it is clear that developer needs to get approval of purchasers, not notification. However, it seems nothing mention about refinancing of the land.
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got the information from ekovest staff.
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post Dec 10 2015, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(restful increase @ Dec 10 2015, 06:48 PM)
got the information from ekovest staff.
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If what ekovest staffs saying is true, then buyers can just ignore the letter since developer will go ahead with refinancing anyway.

Buyers lose nothing by not signing the letter..

However.... the content of the letter does suggest they need the approval from the buyers.


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post Dec 10 2015, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(Jagalat @ Dec 10 2015, 10:47 AM)
There has been a Facebook group created for owners.
I try to avoid redundency of communication effort/platform...

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3021334/+1864

But if most buyers in this forum prefer to use whatapps chat group, then l can setup one.
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Buyers, today, I had contacted the EKC owner's fb group admin, boss syong888.
He is aware of your PM.
Cheers...
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post Dec 13 2015, 03:43 PM

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BlkJ.... Taken last Sunday 6-Dec....
Starting to reveal wider B3 cement floor and a piece of B2 cement floor is also formed...
Can be a shading place when raining....
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post Dec 13 2015, 03:45 PM

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BlkJ... angle from left....6-Dec
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post Dec 13 2015, 03:46 PM

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The land linking BlkH and BlkJ is getting flatter and levelled between the two blocks....
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post Dec 13 2015, 03:48 PM

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BlkH ...Any difference from pictures previous weeks?
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post Dec 13 2015, 03:54 PM

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BlkN (Hotel)

Observed the number on the safety notice board(super zoom baru nampak) do roll each time l visit...
Salute them updating it...
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post Dec 13 2015, 04:32 PM

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All of the pictures above were taken last Sunday 6-Dec.

BlkH... best zoom after rain TODAY 13-Dec..... As the soil is wet, l can't walk to the 'island' to take picture.

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post Dec 13 2015, 04:32 PM

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BlkJ site, see the scaffolding of the ramp?
One may check with your B3/B2 parking map and visualize the actual width of BlkJ....
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That's all for today.....

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post Dec 13 2015, 06:12 PM

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Thanks Jagalat, great pictures. Despite all the recent negativity by some posters, I'm pleased to see that the project is still progressing. It may not be as quick as we all would like it to be but at least it is progressing (i.e. not redundant).

The recent pictures (6th and 13th December) seem to have more observable significant changes so I guess it was indeed time consuming to prep the foundation (happy that they took their time rather than doing a half-baked job). I would rather have a delayed project than to sacrifice quality.

I suspect it will progress much quicker going forward as it'll probably be easier to build above ground than to dig holes.

As for the project itself, I'm still confident with the concept and location of the project. The completion of this project will only make trips to Leisure Mall more enjoyable with more to do and see.

I've been living in London next to an overground station (not all London stations are underground) and I honestly love the convenience of being connected to all other parts of London at my door step. Unless I have the need for a bigger home (which makes it not very viable to live in an apartment), I'll go with properties next to a station any day be it for investment or own stay. This applies to KL as well.

In terms of the tenant profiles, because the project is linked to an MRT station, we don't just get potential tenants from the local area but other areas linked to an MRT as well. I see this as a plus point for properties linked to an MRT station.

Nevertheless, as with all investments, there's always risks involved. In the case of EkoCheras, typically these will be risks associated with an off-plan project. This is also the reason why the value will generally increase as the project's building gets more visible since the earlier buyers would have been compensated (well, theoretically this should be the case but not guaranteed wink.gif ) for the risk of non-completion. Say what you want, but having seen property prices in Australia, UK and Singapore, Malaysia still has one of the cheapest properties for international investors.

Keep up the good work with the updates Jagalat and those who have been sharing info and ideas / applying pressure to the developer when things don't look quite right. I know we have a facebook group but closer to project completion, it will be nice if we can formalise a group (eg. owner's committee or something) to represent the owners of EkoCheras. If we have a strong committee, then we will have a stronger voice which will then make it easier for us to make suggestions / apply pressure with regard to the management of the property post-completion. Given the size of the development, we could even consider having committees by blocks.

All the best to us.

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