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Discussion best captain in EPL?, who do you think?
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kobe8byrant
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 Nov 9 2006, 03:02 PM
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QUOTE(uNeVErwaLkaloNe @ Nov 9 2006, 02:54 PM) workrate does count when it comes to striker, midfielder or defender become a captain, this is what we call led by example. gk have their own workrate as well, just that it wasnt about running here and there. i voted for gerrard and had JT as my 2nd choice. gerrard performance at times just pure inspiring while JT led a group of superstar and consistently perform well. yeah well when i heard ppl saying that so and so is heaven on earth because of wonderful goals and such is just not right. gerrard is a great captain in his own right and we all remember Olympiakos 3-3 and AC Milan as well as West Ham but that just goes to show he is a special player not a special leader. big players for big games. ronaldinho and messi are special players but they arent leaders IMO. |
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heeren
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Nov 9 2006, 03:06 PM
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cantona - for his very charisma...his skills...an eye to score wonderful goals...his aura and yeah his explosive aggression (as seen during the fight with a Crystal Palace fan)...his is an ingenious captain...
keano - almost as alike as cantona...his aggression and motivations on center of the field is felt by everyone playing for the club...u don't play well then u get screwing from him...
gary neville - hmmm he is alright...u can't doubt his feelings for United...he will do his level best for United although he is just too quiet and resolute for my liking at times...he is a too cool captain but u know he is an important figure in there...
terry - he leads by example...he doesn't go out there n fight like a mad cow like how cantona or keano did...he simply leads them out there and organize things well enough...
gerrard - he is a pure inspiration and simply fantastic when he is on fire...when he plays well...usually liverpool will go on to win...he can be a match winner at times...no doubt! he drives liverpool!
scott parker - i guess he is the only person capable enough to lead newcastle...i dun see any players can lead the team...tat's y he was chose to be the captain...he has the leadership qualities but not the best to lead the top teams...
henry - well he is tot to be Arsenal all time best player ever even in EPL history maybe? his lovely skills and consistent eye for goal every season has see as an ideal person on the pitch for Arsenal to influence the rest of the players...but he lacks the true leadership that you can see on Terry and Gerrard...it's his aura when he is playing well that brings him out to be a captain...
gareth barry? - i would prefer scott parker over him then...he is jus too soft hearted at times for me...he is a true n true aston villa fan & player...u won't doubt his dedication for villa...a "production of the villa youth system" so no doubt he fits the bill...something like gary of united...
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khelben
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Nov 9 2006, 03:12 PM
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There's only one Keano! There's only one Keano! There's only one Keano! But he's not playing anymore  Right now I gotta say Terry's the best captain in the EPL. |
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Jedi
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Nov 9 2006, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE(heeren @ Nov 9 2006, 03:06 PM) henry - well he is tot to be Arsenal all time best player ever even in EPL history maybe? his lovely skills and consistent eye for goal every season has see as an ideal person on the pitch for Arsenal to influence the rest of the players...but he lacks the true leadership that you can see on Terry and Gerrard...it's his aura when he is playing well that brings him out to be a captain... well said. he dont have the leadership. they lack it since the departure of vieira maybe wenger do that to keep him at ars? who knows? |
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stsh90
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Nov 9 2006, 03:44 PM
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I choose Terry. although he's playing for chelsea but I still feel that he's the best captain. He has the charisma and the confidence to lead his team. his big size made the defence line of blues tough. and through his leadership, he led his team to raise the EPL trophy twice. he's a very good defender + an almost perfect captain  |
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fd_totti
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Nov 9 2006, 04:56 PM
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I choose gerard... Eventhough he is not in my EPL team but he do inspired player... I wonder why Steve McLaren didnt pick him as England captain.. well, he is the manager and I'm not....  |
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Cahill
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Nov 9 2006, 05:02 PM
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wow "G" is the clear favourite  even those not reds fan also supporting him. He should be england captain  |
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Duke Red
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Nov 9 2006, 05:08 PM
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Look at all my stars!!
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When picking a captain, I look at the following attributes:
1) He must be able to command his troops (which is why I would seldom go for goalkeepers. How often do they get upclose with their strikers?). A captain should essentially be an on-field manager. He should be able to read the game and dish out the appropriate instructions to those around him.
2) A captain has to be calm especially in competitive matches. He should always be the first to step into an argument when there is one, to difuse the situation. There's no point in confronting the opposition and getting yourself sent off.
3) A captain must lead by example. When the chips are down, players look to him for motivation and he by playing out of his skin, he can inadvertently inspire those around him.
Based on the above, I'd pick the following captains for each category.
1) Roy Keane
2) John Terry
3) Steven Gerrard
The closest person I've seen to having all 3 traits in recent memory is Alan Shearer, when it comes to the EPL anyway.
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fr4g*st3r
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Nov 9 2006, 05:26 PM
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I agree with Duke's comment (and his picks as well). |
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Edi8888
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Nov 9 2006, 05:27 PM
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Steven Gerrard (Liverpool)
he one man can bring up whole team
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Abangpedro
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Nov 9 2006, 06:32 PM
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I vote for TERRY FTW!!!!!
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vreis
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Nov 9 2006, 07:35 PM
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Stevie G as he inspire the team & hav the aura (which normally great capt have) that makes the team thick.  » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « From What I heard of from my coach during school times, a captain should be calm, & compose when under pressure, they need to strategically sound because a capt. need to organise team & gives out instructions.
Therefore the BEST position is central defender or midfielder as this position gives them opportunity to analyst the game from the back. Basically it offers them a chance to view the whole game & gives out instruction accordingly.
U may argued that goalkeeper & striker also position centrally, but a goalkeeper involvement in built up is very limited in the sense that he cant gives out instructions to outfield player efficiently & is confined to penalty box therefore limited his movement.
In the other hand, a striker is not viable as he plays further up the field, therefore comminication problems arose. Also it is difficult for striker to organise play & make space for himself in scoring position.
As a central defender, he can analyst the movement of team mates & opponents. Also he needs to organise the defence & midfielders only as usually striker wont need much organisation in terms of defending and built up play. Most of the teams in the old days used a centreback as captain.
This leaves us central midfield. As we all know this is the most crucial part in modern football, heart of the team if u like. It is a position that links defence & attacks, hence there'll be no much breakdown in communication. Same as central defender, he can analyst & built up play efficiently.
All said nowadays a capt. can be in any position. I'm from old school of thought so it will be central defender or midfielder for me.
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kobe8byrant
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Nov 9 2006, 07:42 PM
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to the post saying that captain material are calm.
remember roy keane horro tackle against the manc feck?
remember roy keane sent off after a few words from shearer?
remember cantona's whack against cyrstal palace fan>
remember gerrard's stamp during merseyside derby?
captain must be combative...willing to fight with a gut sticking out.
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vreis
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Nov 9 2006, 08:01 PM
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Dude thats an opinion only. If u wants to takes everything into accounts, then there is no more capt. Heck nowadays manager also gaduh  I'm only arguing the position & the trait that a Capt supposed to have. Can u deny that taking into account the above mention offence, they are not a great capt? Capt are also human & it is the fiery competitiveness that makes them great. If u want a nice guy for capt take Owen ( Michael that is). He is a great player no doubt but can he be a good captain? I dun think so |
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kobe8byrant
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Nov 9 2006, 08:14 PM
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QUOTE(vreis @ Nov 9 2006, 08:01 PM) Dude thats an opinion only. If u wants to takes everything into accounts, then there is no more capt. Heck nowadays manager also gaduh I'm only arguing the position & the trait that a Capt supposed to have. Can u deny that taking into account the above mention offence, they are not a great capt? Capt are also human & it is the fiery competitiveness that makes them great. If u want a nice guy for capt take Owen ( Michael that is). He is a great player no doubt but can he be a good captain? I dun think so i am all for fiery captains ok. i am disagreeing with the post saying that captain are supposed to be calm. |
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vreis
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Nov 9 2006, 08:20 PM
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If Capt not calm how are u making decision and analyst game on the spot? BTW I think couple of years down the road, Cesc will make a great Capt for the Gunners  |
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taor3n
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Nov 9 2006, 08:30 PM
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terry will b my pick....
his calm..everytime...look at the match wif..spurs...he did not argue..much....wad the raferee...decides...he noes....how 2 control everting...he does not need to argue....since when did u c..terry gets a card?....except..for spurs tat match i suppose....so my choice will b...terry ......2nd choice would b gerrard...
cheers
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williamlee_1985
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Nov 9 2006, 08:34 PM
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first choice would be gerrard. he saved liverpool countless of time, FA Cup final against westham, CL final against ac milan.
But the best captain of all time would be keano!!!
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emmeir
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Nov 9 2006, 08:45 PM
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Surely Terry. Double captain.
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maxizanc
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Nov 9 2006, 08:52 PM
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If got Roy Keane.. I choose him.. but best captain in EPL.. i say Steven Gerard even though i'm a United fan..
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