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post Jul 4 2015, 01:46 AM, updated 11y ago

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for those tenant/owners, who pays for the Indah Water bill/severage services?
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post Jul 4 2015, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(sgtrack @ Jul 4 2015, 01:46 AM)
for those tenant/owners, who pays for the Indah Water bill/severage services?
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There is no fixed rule on this. You can ask the tenant to pay all your bills that is... If the tenant agrees.

Generally speaking normally utilities that are commonly used by the tenant such as water and electricity are paid by tenant.

I think this question is also akin to, who should pay the fire insurance, maintenance fee etc...

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post Jul 4 2015, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(sgtrack @ Jul 4 2015, 01:46 AM)
for those tenant/owners, who pays for the Indah Water bill/severage services?
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normally tenant pay! icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 4 2015, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Jul 4 2015, 07:20 PM)
There is no fixed rule on this. You can ask the tenant to pay all your bills that is... If the tenant agrees.

Generally speaking normally utilities that are commonly used by the tenant such as water and electricity are paid by tenant.

I think this question is also akin to, who should pay the fire insurance, maintenance fee etc...
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Although there is no fixed rules on it, generally it is owner should be the one pay the fire insurance and maintenance fee, as those fee are for upkeep of the property.

While utilities bill consumed by tenants paid by tenant.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 4 2015, 09:51 PM)
Although there is no fixed rules on it, generally it is owner should be the one pay the fire insurance and maintenance fee, as those fee are for upkeep of the property.

While utilities bill consumed by tenants paid by tenant.
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I guess one has to distinguish between utilities that are directly consumed by tenant and cost incurred for the upkeep of the unit.
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post Jul 5 2015, 01:31 AM

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post Jul 7 2015, 12:04 PM

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amount not that much right.
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QUOTE(Mr.JJchampian @ Jul 7 2015, 12:04 PM)
amount not that much right.
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if the justification is "amount not that much right", why not the landlord pay for electricity or water?

constructive responses appreciated.

people rent for a reason.

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post Jul 7 2015, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Jul 7 2015, 12:18 PM)
if the justification is "amount not that much right", why not the landlord pay for electricity or water?

constructive responses appreciated.

people rent for a reason.
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some of the landlord are paying for utility bill .. its depend on what kind of contract u sign ...
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post Jul 7 2015, 12:21 PM

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Owner pay.
Tenant pay tnb. Water bill.
If indah water also tenant need to pay, how about assessment fee?
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post Jul 7 2015, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 4 2015, 09:51 PM)
Although there is no fixed rules on it, generally it is owner should be the one pay the fire insurance and maintenance fee, as those fee are for upkeep of the property.

While utilities bill consumed by tenants paid by tenant.
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i concur and agree.

anything with regards to the property is bourne by the owner while tenant is responsible for perishables and consumables.
eg. maintenance fees, sinking fees, insurance, assessment, quit rent - owner

the grey area for me is damages and repairs to the unit.
eg. faulty pipes, taps, lighting points, lights, etc.

for iwk, i automatically increased rm8 per month in their rental as iwk payment.
and i tell them i will collect and pay on behalf.

This post has been edited by kochin: Jul 7 2015, 12:22 PM
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post Jul 7 2015, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Jul 7 2015, 12:21 PM)
i concur and agree.

anything with regards to the property is bourne by the owner while tenant is responsible for perishables and consumables.
eg. maintenance fees, sinking fees, insurance, assessment, quit rent - owner

the grey area for me is damages and repairs to the unit.
eg. faulty pipes, taps, lighting points, lights, etc.

for iwk, i automatically increased rm8 per month in their rental as iwk payment.
and i tell them i will collect and pay on behalf.
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indirectly collect with you . pipes taps, light , somethings small normal i will handle myself . but if say about piping broke , leaking , we will ask owner to settle it ...
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post Jul 10 2015, 04:26 PM

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All these fixed fees shall be pay by owner.
Reason is to make sure all these are paid off.
To recover this costs, the owner shall adjust the rental fee accordingly.
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post Jul 12 2015, 11:54 AM

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Tenant: Water, electricity

Pros:
1. Water_electricity bill may be late, etc., so difficult to collect when tenant already left.
2. Tenant may also worry about if he/she end up paying for arrears of water/electricity bill of previous tenant

Cons:
1. Inconvenient for tenant to call and arrange for water_electricity bill to be turned on/off when moving in/out
2. Water/electricity may take some time to activate(?) so tenant need to do in advance?

Overall I think the Pros outweigh the Cons, let water/electricity company chase for debts instead of you/agent having to do this painful task.
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post Jul 14 2015, 01:32 PM

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tenant pays.
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post Jul 15 2015, 02:05 PM

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The tally as follows:-

Tenant pay - 5
Maybe the Tenant should pay (depends on contract) - 2
Landlord pay - 2
Off-topic -1 hahahahahaha...
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post Jul 15 2015, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(sgtrack @ Jul 4 2015, 01:46 AM)
for those tenant/owners, who pays for the Indah Water bill/severage services?
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post Jul 20 2015, 11:16 PM

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I believe that the tenant should pay for his/her usage. However it depends on your written agreement/contract. That is why it's always important to discuss this matter before committing to any leasing. Water/Electricity is mostly consumtion by tenant and you never know that some tenants might abuse this if it is bourne by owners.

Exisiting fixture/furniture/equipments(doors, washing machine/fridge) however should be handled by owner as this should be under maintenance fee. But smaller items like light bulbs, bedding etc should be bourne by tenants.

Best to clarify with owner before signing the contract to know what you are getting. And make sure to get everything LISTED on contract to avoid the "he said / she said" situation.
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post Jul 21 2015, 04:41 PM

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As a landlord, I would pay Indah Water bills, but the rental will raise it for another rm50.
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post Jul 21 2015, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Jul 15 2015, 02:05 PM)
The tally as follows:-

Tenant pay - 5
Maybe the Tenant should pay (depends on contract) - 2
Landlord pay - 2
Off-topic -1 hahahahahaha...
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The tally as follows:-

Tenant pay - 6
Maybe the Tenant should pay (depends on contract) - 3
Landlord pay - 3
Off-topic -1.5 hahahahahaha...

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