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post Sep 29 2015, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(moon0610 @ Sep 29 2015, 12:20 AM)
Hi Xuzen, so according to Algozen, still a good move to top up GTF, ponzi 2 and small cap?
Dilemma... not sure to focus topping up the exising funds (but they seem expensive to me now) or exploring new funds.  blink.gif
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All I can say is that I am topping up on these three myself. It is your choice whether to follow or not.

Some background info:

When one is a follower of Markowitz Modern Portfolio Theory (MPT), there are a few parameters which the theory suggest to look at when buying a position in any risky asset. It does not teach one about expensive or cheap (that is another school of thought - namely the Fundamental Analysis School of Thought).

MPT always look at taking position in a risky asset based on how less risky it is compared to peer. It essentially teaches to take a position that gives the best return per unit of risk (i.e., the most optimum risk to reward position).

Let's say a fund is perceived to be expensive, but it has the least volatility. Another fund may be selling at bargain price, but its price fluctuate wildly. MPT will still advocate the "perceived" expensive fund. It favours stability.

Hope this helps explain the MPT rationale.

Xuzen

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post Sep 29 2015, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Sep 29 2015, 08:42 AM)
MYR is so depressing:

Ringgit at new low, foreign funds continue to exit emerging markets

KUALA LUMPUR: The ringgit hit a fresh intra-day low of 4.4250 against the greenback as foreign funds continued to exit emerging markets amid expectations that the US Federal Reserve (Fed) would likely raise interest rates by year-end.

The ringgit hit its lowest of 4.4250 against the US dollar at 4:30 pm yesterday, putting the currency closer to its 17-year ebb of 4.7125 recorded on Jan 9, 1998, just before Bank Negara pegged the ringgit to the US dollar at 3.8000 in September in the same year.

URL: http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...-low/?style=biz
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I'm planning to cancel my bali trip this December. It's so saddening.

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post Sep 29 2015, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Sep 29 2015, 08:42 AM)
MYR is so depressing:

Ringgit at new low, foreign funds continue to exit emerging markets

KUALA LUMPUR: The ringgit hit a fresh intra-day low of 4.4250 against the greenback as foreign funds continued to exit emerging markets amid expectations that the US Federal Reserve (Fed) would likely raise interest rates by year-end.

The ringgit hit its lowest of 4.4250 against the US dollar at 4:30 pm yesterday, putting the currency closer to its 17-year ebb of 4.7125 recorded on Jan 9, 1998, just before Bank Negara pegged the ringgit to the US dollar at 3.8000 in September in the same year.

URL: http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...-low/?style=biz
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needed to do some "adjustment" to some of plans in Dec cry.gif
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post Sep 29 2015, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 29 2015, 10:23 AM)
needed to do some "adjustment" to some of plans in Dec cry.gif
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Actually good time to buy Malaysian funds.
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post Sep 29 2015, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Sep 29 2015, 10:34 AM)
Actually good time to buy Malaysian funds.
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KGF?
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post Sep 29 2015, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 29 2015, 10:38 AM)
KGF?
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Hhahahahaha fuck kgf. I been hearing it since version 1.
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post Sep 29 2015, 10:47 AM

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Hhahahahaha fuck kgf. I been hearing it since version 1.
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then which fund? hmm.gif
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post Sep 29 2015, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 29 2015, 10:47 AM)
then which fund?  hmm.gif
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I have limited funds so parking at my big guys. Ponzi 2.0, GTF and small caps.

For Malaysia if I would like to invest in alladin fund.
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post Sep 29 2015, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Sep 29 2015, 09:48 AM)
All I can say is that I am topping up on these three myself. It is your choice whether to follow or not.

Some background info:

When one is a follower of Markowitz Modern Portfolio Theory (MPT), there are a few parameters which the theory suggest to look at when buying a position in any risky asset. It does not teach one about expensive or cheap (that is another school of thought - namely the Fundamental Analysis School of Thought).

MPT always look at taking position in a risky asset based on how less risky it is compared to peer. It essentially teaches to take a position that gives the best return per unit of risk (i.e., the most optimum risk to reward position).

Let's say a fund is perceived to be expensive, but it has the least volatility. Another fund may be selling at bargain price, but its price fluctuate wildly. MPT will still advocate the "perceived" expensive fund. It favours stability.

Hope this helps explain the MPT rationale.

Xuzen
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Thank you for the clear explanation! rclxms.gif
What do you think about the Sep recommended fund - Libra AsnitaBond?
Understand it's a fixed income fund with low risk, but the fund performance makes me wonder if i should just park the fund in FD.
The fund performance is before/ after the platform fees, annual fees, trustee fees?

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QUOTE(moon0610 @ Sep 29 2015, 11:03 AM)
Thank you for the clear explanation!  rclxms.gif
What do you think about the Sep recommended fund - Libra AsnitaBond?
Understand it's a fixed income fund with low risk, but the fund performance makes me wonder if i should just park the fund in FD.
The fund performance is before/ after the platform fees, annual fees, trustee fees?
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If you check three pages before you would have read his reply on it.

We buy ut based on the future not the past records of a ut.
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post Sep 29 2015, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Sep 29 2015, 11:41 AM)
If you check three pages before you would have read his reply on it.

We buy ut based on the future not the past records of a ut.
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some buy because of dividend coming liao... like that labah-labah merah jambu feller!

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Sep 29 2015, 12:30 PM)
some buy because of dividend coming liao... like that labah-labah merah jambu feller!

Xuzeb
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post Sep 29 2015, 01:08 PM

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Bloodbath kicks start:

Asia shares skid to 3-1/2-year lows on China anxiety

TOKYO (Reuters) - Asian shares skidded to 3-1/2-year lows and the dollar sagged on Tuesday, pulled down by a sharp losses on Wall Street after weak Chinese data rekindled worries about its fragile economy.

Commodities struggled after fears of weaker demand pushed them to multi-year lows overnight. Adding to the gloom, commodity trader Glencore's Hong Kong-listed shares were around 28-percent lower on Tuesday, after its London-listed stock plunged on debt worries a day earlier.

URL: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/asia-shares-...-003807169.html
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post Sep 29 2015, 01:21 PM

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Time to top up?
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post Sep 29 2015, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 29 2015, 01:21 PM)
Time to top up?
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yeah, added 5k Amcommod.

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 29 2015, 01:38 PM)
I want to ask u since long time ago.

why u invest in AmCommodities fund?  hmm.gif
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i forgot liao, must be i thought can make money lo.

also it was recommended in FSM list

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Sep 29 2015, 01:29 PM)
yeah, added 5k Amcommod.
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Yo risk appetite is High despite commodities tumble notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Sep 29 2015, 01:29 PM)
yeah, added 5k Amcommod.
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I want to ask u since long time ago.

why u invest in AmCommodities fund? hmm.gif
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post Sep 29 2015, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Sep 29 2015, 12:30 PM)
some buy because of dividend coming liao... like that labah-labah merah jambu feller!

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dont like that la xuzen. the way i see these labah labh merah jambu are like cannon fodder.
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post Sep 29 2015, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Sep 29 2015, 02:29 PM)
yeah, added 5k Amcommod.
i forgot liao, must be i thought can make money lo.

also it was recommended in FSM list
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post Sep 29 2015, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Sep 29 2015, 02:05 PM)
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The fund tumbled so it's no way it can tumble further. Lol

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