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carrer
post Jun 30 2015, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(Ken.B @ Jun 30 2015, 08:59 PM)
Guys, i just need some motivation.

Due to the Eur gap, SL was not honoured and it took away all of this year's profit. I'm a technical guy so I wouldn't pay much attention towards news. Normally, I would have notice the news when such high impact event happen. But recently, I am overwhelmed with work and life and missed out on the Grexit thing.

Thanks for listening to my ranting. I feel better now.
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Are you holding many positions on EUR?
Or were you scalping or something?

Bro, when you do fully technical, you are dealing with total randomness. Hence, you will experience this from time to time. Following the fundamentals also will not guarantee that you will not experience these. For example, the SNB crises recently, even hedge funds have to close down.

Don't give up. Cheers.
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post Jun 30 2015, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(KeroroQ @ Jun 30 2015, 08:34 PM)
flex.gif rclxms.gif Price is everything, here's mine:

1) I only trade one strategy, and I follow and perfect it
2) No I don't use indicators, some on occasion to confirm the reaction
3) scalping will burn your eyes and account
4) Right before jumping in to the trade  wait for candle to close
5) End of the week, month, quarter should be avoided, hedge funds, smart money close positions these times
6) Always look for clues

Some of my experience, hope to benefit you all whistling.gif
want more awesome stuff? hahaha
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1. I started trade bursa since I'm 16yo then slowly divert to forex
2. Been trying forex for demo OFF & ON and burst demo plenty of times but still never give up
3. Until enter real trading, first month burst total of RM24000. From here I start learn how to trade. Is RM24k not 2.4k(Money from savings. I'm not rich family boy)
4. Frust and stress all the time during trading. Slowly learn, watch YouTube and discuss with trade buddy every time possible
5. Found out my own trading method and techniques and start making back everything I had lost
6. Giving guide to all and most of them are very successful now
7. What skill I'm using? Plainly from my bursting experience and some add-on from the field.
8. Now trading for luxury(Eg, better quality rice, better food and drinks, more holidays) not aiming anything as money already divert to many places and return is good to cover everything
9. I don't fancy supercars only drive a small car since now. No much commitment as all focus on family.
10. Discipline and not being greedy is my key point of successful trading
emptycube
post Jul 1 2015, 12:55 AM

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GU and EU ranging with tight range today. Not making any good trades. lets see tomorrow. Anybody got good closed post today>?
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post Jul 1 2015, 01:17 AM

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Got some profits on my stop loss. But nothing much. Was expecting gu to continue its bullish trend.
Zanmai0146
post Jul 1 2015, 01:54 AM

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QUOTE(emptycube @ Jul 1 2015, 12:55 AM)
GU and EU ranging with tight range today. Not making any good trades. lets see tomorrow. Anybody got good closed post today>?
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Not much.. Short bout 20pips for GU but my gold making awesome profit
9kingsir
post Jul 1 2015, 03:47 AM

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QUOTE(stevendefool @ Jun 30 2015, 03:58 PM)
Hi, any traders here using fxprimus? I'm having problem withdrawing my funds from them. It's been more than 5 business days but still haven't receive anything yet. The status in my withdrawal history is shown "withdrawn". Talked to their live support but they ask me to email their withdrawal department. Emailed them twice but no reply mad.gif  vmad.gif  mad.gif
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i have no issue at all
9kingsir
post Jul 1 2015, 04:02 AM

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QUOTE(hdr088 @ Jun 30 2015, 06:15 PM)
Hi, noob here. If wire transfer from malaysia to cyprus usually take how long.. my broker is fxprimus?

thanks!
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using cc/debit card is 30min

if not within 3-5 working days depend on your local gateway payment
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post Jul 1 2015, 05:09 AM

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QUOTE(9kingsir @ Jul 1 2015, 04:02 AM)
using cc/debit card is 30min

if not within 3-5 working days depend on your local gateway payment
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hi, justto inform. i already funded by account via telegraphic transfer cimbclicks. took only 24 H smile.gif
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post Jul 1 2015, 07:04 AM

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Hello guys, mind sharing what's your trading plan?

To me: pinbar, H4 @ D1 only, SL 50-70pips, discipline & patience smile.gif
Zanmai0146
post Jul 1 2015, 07:25 AM

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QUOTE(hdr088 @ Jul 1 2015, 05:09 AM)
hi, justto inform. i already funded by account via telegraphic transfer cimbclicks. took only 24 H smile.gif
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Happy trading
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post Jul 1 2015, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(carrer @ Jun 30 2015, 08:07 PM)
This is based on my journey/experience in forex. Others might differ.

1. I have spent around 5 years trading forex, I have tried everything, coded many robots, etc.
2. I have not been profitable till recently. Forex is not easy, it is difficult. But once you have mastered the art, it's easy. Like when you learn to swim, first it is hard, but once you 'get it', you can swim easily. Same as cycling too.
3. You need an edge. Nobody will reveal their edge easily. Without an edge, whether it is statistical or not, you cannot beat the market, no matter how good your money management is.
4. Once you have found your edge, you can turn it into a robot(if your edge is mechanical), otherwise, you have to trade manually (if your edge is discretionary).
5. I don't trade using indicators. The price is my indicator. Have you heard of "Price is everything"? But I know some people are very successful trading using indicators.

That's all for now. I would like to listen to other traders' too. Would be very interesting if we could share our experiences and journeys.
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Thanks for sharing. You got some interesting facts.
What do u consider as an "edge"? How do u determine one? Do you stick to one strategy whether winning or losing for a certain period of time, forward testing in order to deem it's worth to continue or give up and try something else?

When it comes to finding the right strategy for ourselves, I think it's important to "fail fast". Motivation and energy will drain. I always wonder how the traders keep the motivation high up to keep moving on. This is something that I wanna learn from fellow traders here.
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post Jul 1 2015, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(Zanmai0146 @ Jun 30 2015, 06:09 PM)
Why not? Just enter la
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blink.gif some newbie gonna die ..... lol

gold support pretty good... hmm.gif

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post Jul 1 2015, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(Zanmai0146 @ Jun 30 2015, 09:32 PM)
1. I started trade bursa since I'm 16yo then slowly divert to forex
2. Been trying forex for demo OFF & ON and burst demo plenty of times but still never give up
3. Until enter real trading, first month burst total of RM24000. From here I start learn how to trade. Is RM24k not 2.4k(Money from savings. I'm not rich family boy)
4. Frust and stress all the time during trading. Slowly learn, watch YouTube and discuss with trade buddy every time possible
5. Found out my own trading method and techniques and start making back everything I had lost
6. Giving guide to all and most of them are very successful now
7. What skill I'm using? Plainly from my bursting experience and some add-on from the field.
8. Now trading for luxury(Eg, better quality rice, better food and drinks, more holidays) not aiming anything as money already divert to many places and return is good to cover everything
9. I don't fancy supercars only drive a small car since now. No much commitment as all focus on family.
10. Discipline and not being greedy is my key point of successful trading
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Hi Zanmai,

I went through exact the same scenario from Point 2 to Point 8 as you (which i believe, all traders should face). I burst multiple accounts about 3 to 4 times in the total amount of approximate RM 8000. Since then, losing trades make me a better trader.

For now, consistent profits also allow me to strategize my profit earnings. I have started some fund management (by giving customer fixed 5% profit of their initial investment every month).

So far, the profits gave me to your scenario (Point 7). Trading is actually part of my passive income along with properties. I have been able to keep my salary (active income: Da Gong Zai's pay) untouched and park at Singapore bank,Maybank.

For Point 10, AGREED. DISCLIPINE !
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post Jul 1 2015, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(poks @ Jul 1 2015, 08:59 AM)
blink.gif  some newbie gonna die ..... lol

gold support pretty good... hmm.gif
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Let the greedy one die.. Then they will listen to advice
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post Jul 1 2015, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(jay_y @ Jul 1 2015, 09:15 AM)
Hi Zanmai,

I went through exact the same scenario from Point 2 to Point 8 as you (which i believe, all traders should face). I burst multiple accounts about 3 to 4 times in the total amount of approximate RM 8000. Since then, losing trades make me a better trader.

For now, consistent profits also allow me to strategize my profit earnings. I have started some fund management (by giving customer fixed 5% profit of their initial investment every month).

So far, the profits gave me to your scenario (Point 7). Trading is actually part of my passive income along with properties. I have been able to keep my salary (active income: Da Gong Zai's pay) untouched and park at Singapore bank,Maybank.

For Point 10, AGREED. DISCLIPINE !
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I also having my personal group funds investment but I did not do like how u did. I give back them what the investor deserve.

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post Jul 1 2015, 10:34 AM

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open my roboforex cabinet today, didnt noticed that i got so many coupons available to giveout to others. its a free deposit coupon 15 usd . hahaha. but none of my circle of friends even care about it when i want to give them.

apparently if you hit certain amount of lots traded on the account they will give youo the coupon to be distributed to others.
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post Jul 1 2015, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(jrmsong @ Jul 1 2015, 08:48 AM)
Thanks for sharing. You got some interesting facts.
What do u consider as an "edge"? How do u determine one? Do you stick to one strategy whether winning or losing for a certain period of time, forward testing in order to deem it's worth to continue or give up and try something else?

When it comes to finding the right strategy for ourselves, I think it's important to "fail fast". Motivation and energy will drain. I always wonder how the traders keep the motivation high up to keep moving on. This is something that I wanna learn from fellow traders here.
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An edge is an exploitation of the market's nature. It could be statistical or discretionary. Curve fitting of indicators are not an edge. For example, if you take EMA 10 crosses EMA 50. And you find them not profitable then change it to 11-48 for example, that it not an edge. Market will change, because it is random technically (it is not if you know then fundamentals). The Turtles was using an edge somewhere in 1970 or 80s based on Donchian channel. That was the edge, because it gives statistical advantages. Somehow, a few years back, about a decade or something, it started not to work (on EURUSD). So:

1. If you found an edge, keep it. If you give out, once others start using it, you will lose your edge.
2. You have to stick to your strategy no matter what. But if you notice that it gives you unusual losses, you probably have to check your edge again.
3. The only free lunch in Wall Street is diversification. Try diversification and you will understand.
4. Nothing could motivate you better than your will or desire to be successful and make money.
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post Jul 1 2015, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(Zanmai0146 @ Jul 1 2015, 10:15 AM)
I also having my personal group funds investment but I did not do like how u did. I give back them what the investor deserve.
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Are you sure you give back? I thought you charge 50% on profits? In short, they gain 50% and you get another half.
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post Jul 1 2015, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Jul 1 2015, 11:16 AM)
Are you sure you give back? I thought you charge 50% on profits? In short, they gain 50% and you get another half.
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Yup. I do. Thats what they deserve than monthly that few percent. I trade for a charge, i dont do stuff for free. Even you pay for your useless signal aint you? laugh.gif

No need to question me, based on our last conversation you are not the only one trader wanna work with me. But too bad im not interested with profit sharing for signal selling. Unless $5000 per month fix tongue.gif just kidding.

Would suggest you put more effort on your trading instead of thinking wanna make quick bucks. You are smart enough bro, utilize it.

This post has been edited by Zanmai0146: Jul 1 2015, 11:31 AM
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post Jul 1 2015, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(Zanmai0146 @ Jul 1 2015, 11:20 AM)
Yup. I do. Thats what they deserve than monthly that few percent. I trade for a charge, i dont do stuff for free. Even you pay for your useless signal aint you? laugh.gif

No need to question me, based on our last conversation you are not the only one trader wanna work with me. But too bad im not interested with profit sharing for signal selling. Unless $5000 per month fix tongue.gif just kidding.

Would suggest you put more effort on your trading instead of thinking wanna make quick bucks. You are smart enough bro, utilize it.
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haha... I think you are too over. $5000 per month without showing me any proven records but only want to show me when meet but charge me $100 per hour....

Think of it.

And also: Using XM as broker.. bucket shop broker....

This post has been edited by jack2: Jul 1 2015, 11:34 AM

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