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post Jun 30 2015, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(pai3355 @ Jun 30 2015, 12:04 PM)
if u using robot that means u're not a pro trader smile.gif
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You are joking right?
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post Jun 30 2015, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(TheReaderReads @ Jun 30 2015, 04:40 PM)
SIFUS and Forex Macais,

Infant baby here who just kaotim BabyPips Elementary Lectures. At the end of the lecture, Babypips propose to start playing Demo Acc provided by a broker. Then on after few months of trading under demo account, should I then trade on real money account.

Hopefully, I get to play demo account and then real money account under the sSAME BROKER. What is the latest broker that doesn't have any withdrawal issues and anything that I need to take note of?

Sorry for the inconvenience... hehe  tongue.gif
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Oanda is good too.
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post Jun 30 2015, 08:07 PM

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This is based on my journey/experience in forex. Others might differ.

1. I have spent around 5 years trading forex, I have tried everything, coded many robots, etc.
2. I have not been profitable till recently. Forex is not easy, it is difficult. But once you have mastered the art, it's easy. Like when you learn to swim, first it is hard, but once you 'get it', you can swim easily. Same as cycling too.
3. You need an edge. Nobody will reveal their edge easily. Without an edge, whether it is statistical or not, you cannot beat the market, no matter how good your money management is.
4. Once you have found your edge, you can turn it into a robot(if your edge is mechanical), otherwise, you have to trade manually (if your edge is discretionary).
5. I don't trade using indicators. The price is my indicator. Have you heard of "Price is everything"? But I know some people are very successful trading using indicators.

That's all for now. I would like to listen to other traders' too. Would be very interesting if we could share our experiences and journeys.
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post Jun 30 2015, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(KeroroQ @ Jun 30 2015, 08:34 PM)
flex.gif rclxms.gif Price is everything, here's mine:

1) I only trade one strategy, and I follow and perfect it
2) No I don't use indicators, some on occasion to confirm the reaction
3) scalping will burn your eyes and account
4) Right before jumping in to the trade  wait for candle to close
5) End of the week, month, quarter should be avoided, hedge funds, smart money close positions these times
6) Always look for clues

Some of my experience, hope to benefit you all whistling.gif
want more awesome stuff? hahaha
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Awesome stuff? Sure, more. smile.gif
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post Jun 30 2015, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(Ken.B @ Jun 30 2015, 08:59 PM)
Guys, i just need some motivation.

Due to the Eur gap, SL was not honoured and it took away all of this year's profit. I'm a technical guy so I wouldn't pay much attention towards news. Normally, I would have notice the news when such high impact event happen. But recently, I am overwhelmed with work and life and missed out on the Grexit thing.

Thanks for listening to my ranting. I feel better now.
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Are you holding many positions on EUR?
Or were you scalping or something?

Bro, when you do fully technical, you are dealing with total randomness. Hence, you will experience this from time to time. Following the fundamentals also will not guarantee that you will not experience these. For example, the SNB crises recently, even hedge funds have to close down.

Don't give up. Cheers.
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post Jul 1 2015, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(jrmsong @ Jul 1 2015, 08:48 AM)
Thanks for sharing. You got some interesting facts.
What do u consider as an "edge"? How do u determine one? Do you stick to one strategy whether winning or losing for a certain period of time, forward testing in order to deem it's worth to continue or give up and try something else?

When it comes to finding the right strategy for ourselves, I think it's important to "fail fast". Motivation and energy will drain. I always wonder how the traders keep the motivation high up to keep moving on. This is something that I wanna learn from fellow traders here.
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An edge is an exploitation of the market's nature. It could be statistical or discretionary. Curve fitting of indicators are not an edge. For example, if you take EMA 10 crosses EMA 50. And you find them not profitable then change it to 11-48 for example, that it not an edge. Market will change, because it is random technically (it is not if you know then fundamentals). The Turtles was using an edge somewhere in 1970 or 80s based on Donchian channel. That was the edge, because it gives statistical advantages. Somehow, a few years back, about a decade or something, it started not to work (on EURUSD). So:

1. If you found an edge, keep it. If you give out, once others start using it, you will lose your edge.
2. You have to stick to your strategy no matter what. But if you notice that it gives you unusual losses, you probably have to check your edge again.
3. The only free lunch in Wall Street is diversification. Try diversification and you will understand.
4. Nothing could motivate you better than your will or desire to be successful and make money.
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post Jul 1 2015, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(jrmsong @ Jul 1 2015, 12:06 PM)
well say. quite a lot of studies you've done. rclxms.gif

your explanation of losing the edge is probably the reason why some EAs were so successful initially, start performing badly after a while. either it's due to market condition is changing, or too many people are using it (that's where people get stops hunted).

there are so many ways to make money other than trading. what made u so focus solely in trading? mind to share?
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Because trading is hassle free. And you can make money anytime you want (provided that you have a good system).
More free time, if you are a swing trader like myself. You can do whatever you want and spend little time trading.
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post Jul 1 2015, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(Zanmai0146 @ Jul 1 2015, 08:45 PM)
Nfp tmr!!! Get ready guys laugh.gif
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Thanks for reminding, almost missed that.
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post Jul 1 2015, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(Zanmai0146 @ Jul 1 2015, 08:55 PM)
Speculate green or red? Worst than expected I hope.
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Speculating red. But usually I will exit my position before NFP. Was hit a few times.
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post Jul 3 2015, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(KeroroQ @ Jul 3 2015, 12:31 PM)
Close your positions guys, better not gamble hahha
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Hopefully next week no more gaps.
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post Jul 4 2015, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(poks @ Jul 4 2015, 07:13 PM)
Greece poll is different story, being able to pay its debts is another story. What ever it is, the market is positioning itself last week and doesn't look good to me... now just hoping no super gaps...
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Are you holding any positions?
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post Jul 6 2015, 05:50 PM

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Gold is moving south, as for now.
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post Jul 7 2015, 01:35 PM

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Hopefully this Forex thing will not end up like 'Bernie Madoff' ponzi scheme.
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post Jul 7 2015, 01:39 PM

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Anyone has a link to his FB or instagram?
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post Jul 9 2015, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(krofal @ Jul 9 2015, 01:39 PM)
Yes, it is supposedly a license that allows me to handle funds on behalf of others.  Any ideas?  rclxub.gif

And for the members here, I'm not here to advertise my service or scam anyone.  I'm only asking for advise.
My myfxbook link is http://www.myfxbook.com/members/ckyon1/ck-ic-markets/1037802 in case you think I'm lying or something.

As for Mr. Zanmai0146, I've no idea, maybe 1% daily is not considered as good for you.  But to me it's good enough and it's incorrect to suggest I would not be hungry for funds.  Commissions and performance fee can go a long way in speeding up my process of getting to where I want to be. 

Cheers  smile.gif
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Firstly, it is very unlikely the Government will issue the licence for money management. Some brokers don't require a licence. Maybe they require some legal letters/agreements, I am not sure.

Your result is very impressive. Around 40% a month, with 1000 USD, will turn into:
1st year: 56,693 USD
2nd year: 3,214,199 USD
3rd year: 182,225,556 USD
4th year: 10,331,079,714 USD

You will be a billionaire in four years (assuming that you are risking the same amount of risk).

You don't actually need anyone's money, your money is enough. But in case you really want to set MAM/PAMM, do let me know once you have set up, I might want to invest some amount.
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post Jul 9 2015, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(KeroroQ @ Jul 9 2015, 02:33 PM)
Aiyo all come here promote self, want people sign up through affiliate,
let's talk about the market la laugh.gif Gold looking for a sell 1164, let's wait
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QUOTE(Zanmai0146 @ Jul 9 2015, 03:24 PM)
If gold break 1161.. Then u can short sell. Sudah give u hint brows.gif
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QUOTE(poks @ Jul 9 2015, 03:28 PM)
lol ..... no..... you'll kill me.... i'll consider selling at 1170  whistling.gif  (*i gave you a hint)
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You guys trading retracements/pullbacks?

Anyone trading breakouts?
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post Jul 10 2015, 04:14 AM

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QUOTE(kensh!!n @ Jul 10 2015, 12:27 AM)
Hey guys anyone here using Ichimoku?

I'm not a fond of indicators but this really attracts me
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A few years back I was playing around with EAs. I found that Ichimoku is the best performing indicator compared to other conventional indicators.
However, I do not currently use it myself.
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post Jul 10 2015, 03:22 PM

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Gold looks like losing its momentum being bearish.
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post Jul 10 2015, 06:01 PM

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If I am not mistaken, Jack Schwager was the one who said there are millions of ways to make money from the financial markets.

So, you can focus on one or you can diversify your strategy if you can automate them. Personally for me I only use 2 strategies. However, if you are scalping, 2 strategies would be bad, one is good.
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post Jul 14 2015, 05:19 AM

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QUOTE(ruben7389 @ Jul 14 2015, 05:15 AM)
Hey guys was recently given intro on fxunited.com and quite interested in their cgat account.
apparently 12pct is the minimum return plus any profits made.
was told any losses making the account go below the limit will be topped back up by trader??
Anyone doing this via fxunited? Seems like a capital guaranteed but also seems like a skim cepat kaya at the same time

Appreciate any advise specifically on this fx uniteds cgat trading account
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12% per month or per year?
If per month, you will be rich in no time. You don't actually have to work anymore (provided that you have the capital).

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