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post Mar 30 2016, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Mar 28 2016, 11:53 PM)

Replacement Cost

Aquaphor Crystal eco replacement is RM 450 (capacity 8,000L)
3M DWS 2500 replacement gonna cost RM 900 - 1000  (capacity 2,839 L). You can actually cross check this with lazada or other 3m online store.


Filtration technology

Aquaphor with CarbFibre Block (more advance carbon block filter) + 0.1 micron hollow fibre membrane

3M DWS 2500 with carbon block + 0.2 micron PP

If you wan to know more, do drop by my showroom as i have cut out for all 3m Indoor filters and Aquaphor, so you can look at the inside of the filters and compare to decide which is a better product for you.
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interested on aquaphor crystal eco.. question, the replacement of rm450 is in the set? saw from photo, got 3 filters? also, any indicator of when to change?
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post Mar 30 2016, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Mar 30 2016, 10:42 PM)
Yes one set, it does not have indicator. Capacity is 8000L or 1 year. For normal household usage is only 3000L, so this filter can last you one year. Just change it once a year. All the indicators will alarm when it reaches capacity or 1 year, not based on water quality, so not accurate also
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So even use very less water also need to change? Or if use more than 8000L but not yet reach one year then how ?
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post Mar 30 2016, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Mar 30 2016, 11:35 PM)

First Question

Yes, carbon block filtration effectiveness deteriorate over time once it is activated in water, all brands with carbon blocks will advise customers to replace once a year to maintain the high quality filtration.
Second Question

Quite impossible to use over 8000L per year unless you are running a business. Les do some estimation smile.gif

Drinking Water : 2L per day (as per google) - we wont drink 2L of water only from our home, we will drink in office or restaurant. So, actual amount of water we consume from home is only 1L or lesser if we dont bring our own water to work.

Cooking : Not more than 5L (as measured by my RO machine capacity)

Assuming we cook everyday and we only drink filter water for a family of 5 ppl.

Calculation :

Drinking : 5 ppl x 2L x 365 = 3650L
Cooking : 5L x 356 = 1825L

Total : 3650L + 1825L = 5,475L (this is the max)
On average, usage per family is around 3,000L. As 3M DWS1000 has a water meter indicator (auto shut off water supply once reach 2,365L), customers have to replace the cartridge. Most customers will purchase it around 10 months to 13 months. From asking my customers, i could safely estimate max usage per year is around 3000L
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Actually quite true, for small family hardly hit 8000L.
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post Aug 25 2016, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Aug 25 2016, 06:28 AM)
We do sell 3 way mixer tap (stainless steel matt finish)

1) Unfiltered Tap Water
2) Unfiltered Hot tap water
3) Filtered Water (room temperature only)

Connect to Aquaphor Crystal Eco Water Filter

RM 2300 one set, replacement RM 450 per year
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if very seldom use the water filter, also need to change its filters every year?
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post Aug 25 2016, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Aug 25 2016, 11:32 AM)
Carbon block mus change one year once but if wanna cut cost also got method geh smile.gif u drop by my shop will show u how. Ask for zean bt i wont be around 25 to 28th as i will b in pwtc selling fotile but my shop is open
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thanks, wait for your advice when i dropby. though 450/yr is not expensive.. but still add into household's cost biggrin.gif
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post Sep 5 2016, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Sep 5 2016, 11:16 AM)
Good news, existing Aquaphor User can opt to add on a water dispenser now smile.gif

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hot+cold? separate from existing filter?
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post Sep 5 2016, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(Calculator2013 @ Sep 5 2016, 12:02 PM)
What is the maintenance cost of the add on water dispenser? RM700 includes installation? Thanks.
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ez installation? lol..
i have not go to your shop for tips on maintaning internal water filter to make it last longer..
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post Sep 5 2016, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Sep 5 2016, 12:02 PM)
Yes, the water dispenser has hot + cold water.

So 1 filter for 2 usage
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was reply wrongly earlier..

to u zean:

ez installation? lol..
i have not go to your shop for tips on maintaning internal water filter to make it last longer..

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post Sep 23 2016, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Sep 23 2016, 03:29 PM)
I didnt say we need to filter fluoride, i was implying if D-Goh wanna compare NSF wanna compare numbers of contaminants that it can filter, DWM 101 RO filter can definitely filter more types  on contaminants such as FLUORIDE.
So why i take the trouble to sell Eco instead of DWM 101 which is far more superior? 

Google and read up on some debates why some countries add fluoride and some dont. there is no 100% answer to this but the amount of fluoride in our water is consider safe
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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Sep 23 2016, 03:34 PM)
Dear D_Goh, we have debated on the LGA previously, why would you wan to bring up the same thing and give a wrong website to deceive people.

Espring is 0.2 using carbon block technology with UV light while Aquaphor crystal Eco water filter is 0.1 micron with carbon block + aqualen technology and also hollow fibre membrane, you trying to say my filter is not fit to say it is premium water quality? What logic is this.

Local labtest report was done by a local MOH accredited lab, report also given in my website. How could you say home test.
http://aquaphor.com.my/sites/default/files/laboratory_0.pdf

Here is the explanation for those who wanna read
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3615495/+20

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FEEL FREE TO COME and take a water sample and test if you want.
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post Sep 23 2016, 04:49 PM

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wahh.. water filter war.. steady man..
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post Sep 25 2016, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Sep 24 2016, 12:59 PM)
1) I shown international cert to prove Aquaphor Crystal Eco drinking water is certified with international LGA food regulation
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2) I have uploaded local lab test report done by a lab accredited by MOH not our home test
http://aquaphor.com.my/sites/default/files/laboratory_0.pdf

3) I have CUT open my product, shown what is inside still not transparent enough?


Why we need to know about international certificate and also why i always ask my customers do also check on what media is used rather blindly look at the certificate only as some brands cincai print NSF, WQA or etc without actually having certified by them and the media given could be different from what they were told.
I have done many research and comparison, here is a sample Brand X claim that they are giving carbon block as well but listen to the sound when i shake the cartridge, it doesnt sound like carbon block, sound more like granular carbon to me.



I checked amway website it is only written 0.2 micron as well (not specified nominal or absolute). Aquaphor is using HOLLOW fibre membrane with pore size 0.1 micron, if we just google online to know more about hollow fibre membrane, we can safely say it is absolute micron. You are a water expert, you should know how Hollow Fibre Membrane works but you again try to confuse forumers with absolute or nominal micron.
"Hollow fiber membrane filters water by size exclusion. Size exclusion works by having a pore size smaller than the size of the contaminates. Try pushing a basketball down a golf ball hole. Not going to happen right? Same thing with contaminants in water"
http://renovowater.com/water101/HF_blog1/

For outdoor filters like sand filters, yes they use the term nominal 5 micron bcoz it is not consistent 5 micron filtration. After 2 - 3 years, with the usage and backwash, the layers of sand will get mixed up and hence no longer 5 micron. Strong water pressure will also be able to force contaminants bigger than 5 micron through. But for drinking filter when we use Carbon Block and Hollow Fibre Membrane, media that is so compressed unlike granular or sand.

With all this u still say i m twisting words and bla bla bla, seems like you are trying to defame us. Like i say, u can anytime come and take water samples if u want. u can look at my carbon block or hollow fibre membrane if you wan. Bring your espring unit here to my shop, then we test side by side with the same water quality as incoming water supply, then we can see how much difference between Aquaphor Crystal Eco Vs Espring, that would be interesting. My shop is open mon - sat, 9am - 6pm. I already compared side by side before but the results would be more convincing if it is posted from your account smile.gif Good advertisement for me haha.
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Nice write up
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post Sep 28 2016, 09:58 AM

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post Sep 29 2016, 12:47 PM

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hope no blood involve.. lol..
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post Sep 30 2016, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Sep 30 2016, 11:41 AM)
u are saying Aquaphor don't need outdoor filter and even yellowish tap water won't clog it's filters?

then it must have a backwash function, yes?

i am looking for indoor filter with backwash function that can handle the Syabas (shitty water), anyone know of any model that can do that please share.
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QUOTE(xenith @ Sep 30 2016, 01:04 PM)
I'm interested to know about this too. I think there shall be no backwash function. But is it after install Aquaphor in such condition, other water filter catridge or ceramic filter will be no longer necessarily  ?
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in my opinion, outdoor water filter is still necessary.. else the indoor filter cartridges may need to change oftenly..
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QUOTE(lowya @ Sep 30 2016, 04:51 PM)
some new technology of indoor filters has backwash function, but locally i would like to find out where this is available, for simple reason don't need to install outdoor. With backwash, it doesn't clog up.
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not as i'm aware of indoor filters has backwash function, leave it to experts/sifus rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Oct 1 2016, 01:24 PM)
So, what's the outcome of Amway eSpring vs Aquaphor Crystal Eco challenge ? Which water filter emerged as winner?
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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Oct 1 2016, 03:40 PM)
He didnt come, may be he is too busy. Actually the intention of me inviting D_Goh is not to prove which is better, i just wanna show Aquaphor is fit to be called premium water quality and affordable (50% cheaper) which he does not agree.I wouldnt dare to say Aquaphor is better but definitely it is fit to be called a good filter as well
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What?! Did he even give a ring?
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QUOTE(oyching88 @ Oct 6 2016, 05:51 PM)
Those bottled RO water in hypermarket smells terrible with those additives.
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which brand? puke.gif
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QUOTE(oyching88 @ Oct 8 2016, 12:54 AM)
most of it have a strong smell, u didn't take any before?
mineral water are better which is green or blue cap.
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Not really.. Lol..
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post Oct 8 2016, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Oct 8 2016, 07:45 AM)
reboil water is a no no, do not do that for your health sake. Google that.
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I think he meant boiling the filtered water.. Not re-boiling boiled water.. confused.gif
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QUOTE(oyching88 @ Oct 18 2016, 11:20 AM)
I would say if you are planning to buy any water filter or to replace existing, get more product info and technology behind it rather than always comparing prices. There are many water filters that are very good and efficient compared to those heavily advertised big brands.

There is a very useful guide from Consumer Reports, a non profit organization which work together with consumers to provide a good reference.
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/water-f...uying-guide.htm

Yes, you have to register an account with some charges to view reports as they solely rely on donation & account registration fees. I have an account before and i filtered the highest score for water filter category as shown below:

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the image is too small.. can upload to cloud so we can view better?

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