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ar188
post Apr 18 2018, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Apr 18 2018, 12:40 AM)
You house has separate dry kitchen and wet kitchen ? If yes, one filter head in dry kitchen for drinking purposes and another one in wet kitchen for the repurpose retired drinking cartridge for washing and cooking.
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no, i mean do like the higher end 3m filter which have 2 filters inside the unit which are connected in series.

this is the head i got. biggrin.gif
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try with cyst cartridge?

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post Apr 18 2018, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Apr 18 2018, 08:40 AM)
Yes, cyst.
Please. Just explain the features and functionality of the filter without the sales tone to comply with the forum's rules.
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wah , buy cartridge refill price vs buy cartridge + head adapter why $$ diff so much? sweat.gif
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post Apr 18 2018, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(leongsem @ Apr 18 2018, 04:36 PM)
Hi Bro, which 3M filter suitable for apartment to install at PBA room?

Thank you.
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have to ask this sifu since he familar with most of the popular brands in malaysia

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post Apr 20 2018, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Apr 20 2018, 06:26 PM)

Yalar, if you minus the replacement cartridge cost from the price of the complete set, you will find out the price of the filter head alone is so cut throat  overpriced.
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lets say cartridge is 300-400,
but full set is 1k. (full set just have extra plastic head and tube parts)

LOL laugh.gif

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post Apr 20 2018, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Apr 20 2018, 07:07 PM)
You bought already ? Give a write up on how one can save RM600-RM700 by following your method.
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survey the replacement cartridge price only and compare with the full set price. difference so much.

but my adapter head already arrive ! haha rclxms.gif
maybe cartridge buy from UK even cheaper. lol.

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post Apr 20 2018, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(hestati @ Apr 20 2018, 08:19 PM)
This is why I'm bringing standard housings from Taiwan. Clear profiteering from adapter head by these companies. This is the trick, make custom housings/heads and screw everyone. Most filters are simple sediment or carbon, yet cost a fortune.
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i think else where like us and uk the prices have settled down. i mean just see their RO (with expansion tank) or 6 filter systems mostly below 200usd.
maybe this region still can price gouge until to the point where water filter sell for 3-5k, thats crazy. rclxub.gif
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post Apr 20 2018, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(hestati @ Apr 20 2018, 09:17 PM)
Well, ok, RO for $200 is pushing it as well. I mean can be done, but low quality components. RO at 300 USD from high quality components is more realistic.
I find here we lack middle players. We have 3-5K systems and then have crappy systems that leak and don't filter anything for 300-500RM. But also mentality, always want brand. In USA almost no one will consider 3M if it costs 400USD and Pentek is 200USD (talking PoE now), this is why all these brands are priced ok there.

I will present my PoU ASAP. Have it already, but had no time to write it up.

Next step is PoE.
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1 simple question, your aquaphor replacement cartridges is 350 for 3 units right?
why dont just make a plastic housing to house all 3 cartridge?
then total solution, of around rm500 can already. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 21 2018, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(hestati @ Apr 20 2018, 09:54 PM)
There is also an issue of liability, these heads are damn strong and actually if they explode they may make a lot of damage, you can go to court against Aquaphor and win.
wont explode wan la. lol. you think your incoming water pressure so great like hydraulic lines meh. your internal pipes will leak first biggrin.gif
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post Apr 24 2018, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Apr 23 2018, 10:33 PM)
Fair enough. The product description also intentionally spelled Cristall Eco Wasserfilter doh.gif
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obviously thats the german translation ma. it should mean something logical right? cannot be some jumbled words laugh.gif


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post May 4 2018, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(coca^cola @ May 3 2018, 06:12 PM)
Thank you. 🙂

Any indoor filter cost less than rm500? I’m thinking to buy this Coway Genie SF Water Filtration System P-07IU. Anyone using this?

maybe around 600-800 range, you can do it with 3m and aquaphor. if there is a will there is a way biggrin.gif

aeiou228 correct or not? biggrin.gif

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post May 4 2018, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ May 4 2018, 11:54 AM)
Haha ! That's what I thought too tongue.gif Being waiting for the two of them to engage with hestati for a more intellectual debate but unfortunately they fizzled up in the thin air upon seeing hestati's posts.
C'mon Amway sellers, your RM4k espring really have no answer to hestati's RM1199 FD?
Yes sir. Can start off with 3M CTM-01 first or just buy the 3M AP2 or AP3 filter head from Taobao. Perhaps you want to share the link of the 3M AP2 filter head that you bought? biggrin.gif
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last time link i dunno use which vendor, but i think just search for it in taobao, got many sellers sell them
filter can just buy from kl. not too expensive.

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post May 4 2018, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(hestati @ May 4 2018, 03:42 PM)
You mean for the 3M and Cuno etc replacements? They are NSF certified.

On Taobao, are these original 3M heads? Wondering how much is the price... 3M also sets crazy mark up for Malaysia, time to parallel import it smile.gif

Nevermind, found them. Hmmm, I have a plan smile.gif. I wish I could find same for Aquaphor and not from Russia. I want to bring Aquaphor to 800-900 mark.

P.S. sorry for creating 3 posts and not replying in one, but as soon as I reply to 1, saw another one appearing just before.
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why would it be fake? its' just a lump of fibre reinforced plastic molded part. how expensive can it be to make it.
3m also sell filters in china, hong kong taiwan wat. in malaysia perhaps maybe they dont want to sell you the head, biggrin.gif
even aquaphor has the adaptor head only. cheap cheap in europe.
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post May 4 2018, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(hestati @ May 4 2018, 09:01 PM)
Ok, will try to search for Aquaphor head as well, hope can get it without touching Russia, where logistics is a freaking nightmare. If can get price of Aquaphor down to 800-900 I think it will be good for everyone. I saw the head before, but it was for Crystal H, 4  cartridges, not 3.

3M, I want to find AP9xx series head, then can really bring the price down.
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aquaphor got single one also. biggrin.gif

AP9 series is the blue outdoor right? i think i seen it before somewhere
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post May 4 2018, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(hestati @ May 4 2018, 09:26 PM)
Yes, ap900 series is blue outside. Gotta find it.

Single Aquaphor you mean Solo? I don't see point in Solo, not too popular anyway, they are considering discontinuing it.
the point is to inform you the solo head cost less than rm100

so a base system with 3 filters will cost you rm350 (3 replacement filter which includes profit) + 3x100 heads. no reason why it should be rm1200 to rm1800
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post May 5 2018, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ May 4 2018, 11:47 PM)
AP9xx series I search whole China sites liao. Bo, Yilek.
haha china tarak, but its available for sale in usa. got to enter a very specific 3M sku code. not cheap..maybe rn600 or so

how cheap is the AP902 set here?
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post May 5 2018, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ May 4 2018, 11:47 PM)
The most common 3M series for PoU are AP2 and AP3, I have AP3 head (Easy Complete), ar188 has AP2 head (all bought
mine is also AP3 head. biggrin.gif
AP2 is for slim cylinder/basic sets

anyway this china 3M (2 cylinder) setup should be ok right? from ezbuy. laugh.gif

3M Water Purifier ap3-765-s Household Direct drinking machine water purifier c765s RM1024

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post May 5 2018, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ May 5 2018, 10:43 PM)
Around RM1400+.
You are right. My bad, I terbalik. Mine is AP2 instead.
By C-Cyst cartridge for your AP3 + pre filter, cheapest set up. thumbup.gif
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biggrin.gif AP3 C-cyst+AP3 head and 10inch generic prefilter. super combo. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(hestati @ May 8 2018, 10:14 PM)
One more questions:

Though FD components are NSF, I cannot get NSF certification with FD name on it, at this point it's impossible. BUT! Is there any kind of laboratory/tests/certification that would be value added? I'm talking either local or Singapore. For example, there is SGS in Malaysia, they are reputable international company and can do the test, but how much Malaysians know about it and how much reputation does it have here?

I know there are small independent labs, I'm sure they do analysis just fine, however, I find this analysis useless, because take lead for example, test result may show that there is 0 lead, but what if there's 0 lead in water coming to filter?

Any contaminants that you would be especially interested in? Take lead once again, we can make sure source water has lots of lead, pass it through the filter and show the result (same for chlorine etc).

Any of this is added value, or no? I could probably cooperate with the lab and even film the whole process of testing.
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obviously its not so simple, or else all these DIY companies (like what you are doing) will start their own NSF cert filters.
if so easy, might as well sell 3m filters but relabelled as own brand and comes with NSF cert. even aquaphor dont have it biggrin.gif

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