hi k,

i bought remax charging cable rm20 from Viewnet, loving the speed charging

im now at pasar siang, and saw the same remax cable, selling for rm18.

my question..is there any fake remax cable at pasar siang? cant really tell physically cuz the build feels the same

You test first then report here.

Pisen charging cable also nice..ofcoz there are alot of fake , test with usb tester if can deliver the current stated....my pisen just cost me rm11 and use almost 5 month already still work fine.

yes....usually selling price are almost the same is genuine

Yeah got fake one.

I terkena once, bought from lelong, very cheap.


Everything from packaging to material feel good, but when charging, paiseh.

Max 0.5A only, my cheapo no brand cable can tarik 1.5A at least to my phone

Got even a shop in lowyat selling all Remax product very very expensive.

cannot be lah...... i sell ori RM 100. then one china man come sell RM 95 claim ori padahal fake. how?

cannot say liddat one

You sure you bought ori one?

Usb tester? App or hardware?

lol...asked a shop owner b4 about what d difference between the so called high speed cable with regular rm5 or rm10 one?? he leisurely answered " same like ori cable bro " ....lol...

how reliable those remax cables??

Stupid bigger cable can carry more power.

hardware. it can show the current in the lcd

ini la kekuatan china bole modify

http://www.lelong.com.my/lcd-usb-current-v...7-01-Sale-I.htm
Can test current and also know how many mAh pump into device after finish charging.

How fast meh? I just use cap ayam oni...and ori cable some in a while.

i dun understand this,.. on technical point of view, fast charging is depend on the current of power supply,.. how is a cable give more current when the power supply only limit to it's capacity ???

Macammana u tahu u punya ori

yes, remax shop at 1st floor

rm60~70 per cable

If android, you can download this app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?...r.example&hl=en

Certain model and years can use only detect.

a another day of malaysian consumer mind
when they found another and a much cheaper price of the same product
they purchased earlier at higher price
they will doubt the authenticity
OR they will felt cheated by the 1st seller

p/s:
solution...go back to viewnet
and ask them a refund of RM2 to you
because you found a much cheaper and same product selling

Bought a remax from viewnet. Test on the spot, no problem. Balik rumah pakai 2 hari, "thsi accessory is not compatible with your ipad"

Jilakak harmgajah

i also dun understand but it really works.
my car charger with USB can produce 2.1A but plug cheapskate cable charge very slow like half hour up 1%...
then 1 day the cable rosak i try the remax... plug in 2 minutes up 1%... half hour up about 15-20%...
speed charge really works... now i love the remax cable

Remax?

Mine bought from pasar pagi around 20 bux along with a car charger. 1.5A only compared to the ori 2A.

placebo effect...

had u measure it ???

how to measure? no need this kind of technical terms if it serve the function well for me...

1)get some pins,.. some clips,.. and a multimeter...

2)get the output current

3)compare 2 different of cable current..

thumbs up for Remax cable

thumbs up for Remax cable

sorry. i dun hv any multimeter...

this one ori? : http://www.lelong.com.my/remax-micro-usb-c...7-01-Sale-I.htm

Yeah, remax with wire mesh one.

now keep as spare cable only.

hmm...need like in lelong RM5 also got...

all indicate, Original, Genuine, No fake....difficultlah like this

http://www.lelong.com.my/remax-fast-chargi...7-01-Sale-I.htm

http://www.lelong.com.my/remax-lightning-m...7-01-Sale-I.htm



This one can trust or not?

This post has been edited by azbro: Jun 21 2015, 09:57 PM

the charging very very fast compared to my stock charger cable, so yeah

use ampere easy to check .

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?...ev.ampere&hl=en

usb cable manufacturer can cut down some wires&pin to save manufacturing cost, hence lower price, also lesser charging power.

for end user pov, u can totally feel the different ofthick cable vs thin cable, and also the price

This post has been edited by pikacu: Jun 23 2015, 12:29 AM

a 500mili amp power supply wud only give u 500mili amp,.. it wont give u 1 amp or 2amp,.. no matter what cable u use,..

The only guy that knows this among everyone. I'm waiting for someone to actually know at least something about their charger and battery instead of cables.

I bought 2 Remax cables from XorrowXtricken

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showuser=358436

Charges my phone very fast

Any techies tools available on android able to read up the voltage charge /discharge by second from your kernel*
Through drive permission, such x as 3c toolbox and ROMtoolbox

Meanwhile, xxternal voltage reader used to read the flow through such input output device

Lenovo phone come with native feature through tapping your battery setting iinm

As for the hoax folks roams around

Important thing is to just have
Charger with highest ampere, device that could withstand such input through their charger port
Qualcomm device mostly able to have their stuff charge in a lightning speed

While the cable play a small role as the the loss efficiency rate are minimal, lain la klu korg charge kabel 4 5 meter

Keyword,
Proper charger/powderful device / charger port capability
It's been discussed on xda

If i did not buy a Xiaomi i would not care about those charging stuff anyway since i've always been using Nokia. Later learned why the phone heats up when charging with different methods. Those cables only play marginal difference. The big difference in the cable is, if it only does charging or data + charging. I don't even want to delve into the MAh counts. I just ask everyone to look at their phone battery charge Amp and Adapter Amp and they will know why. If they cannot see how it is related, then i nothing to say liao.

buy online rm8 je

Same story.. Digging same thing once hv xiao mi stuff

Same story.. Digging same thing once hv xiao mi stuff
Former Nokia user too

Ehh netmatrix??
Pc techies, but use some almost kaput gadget mehh?
Been on the same shoe b4

what if i have 2amp power supply, a phone capable receiving that , but cable that can only deliver around 500mili amp or less?

This post has been edited by pikacu: Jun 23 2015, 01:02 PM

if ur power supply give 2amp,.. and ur cable can't stand 2amp,.. it's will burned,.. it'll not give u 500 mili amp...

perhaps that's why my older cable stopped working after some times, thanks

nope,.. if it's burned, it won't give u any charge at all,..

BTW i suspect, all those death when charging phone is becos of thick cable instead of thin cable.. cos faulty power supply wud safely burn the wire of thin cable,... (which act as safety trip switch)

I bought 4 remax dream cables from this guy:
http://www.lelong.com.my/remax-fast-chargi...7-01-Sale-I.htm

Tested all remax cables can charge only 0.5A or less...sucks big time vs my original samsung cables.

This post has been edited by idq2k3: Dec 21 2015, 01:25 AM

I bought alot of cables from this reseller and so far ok. Which cable did you buy?

Also your adapter can output more then 1A?

I buy remax wire mesh cable for rm40. Charge faster than ori samsung cable. Dem nais

But after upgrade to lolipop, that cable charge at 0.5a je. In fact a lot other cable charging at 0.5a. It is now detect as USB and not AC. Thats why charge so slow.

Stupid note 3 lolipop upgrade. That that rm40 remax cable use to charge my rm50 pineng powerbank.

ko gi kedai phone cari charger 2.0a punya. sejam dah penuh. remix ni semua karut je lebih

ayam bought a few of these

http://www.11street.my/productdetail/genui...k-charge-861141

very gooding. Quick Charge compatible too

You talk nonsense because you lack knowledge.

There are 3 main factors that determine the speed for standard charging :
1) The charger's current delivery capability.
2) The connecting cable resistance & voltage drop.
3) The device current draw capability.

Cable is just one part of the equation whether fast charging works or not.
All 3 must works together at the same time to achieve fast charging.

Plugging in a 2.0A charger to my cheap 0.5A draw smartphone will still charge it in 4 hours, not 1 hour as you claimed regardless whether I use a fast charging cable or not.

Do your research & experiments before saying everything else is nonsense.

did u know if u charge phone in aeroplane mode. u phone will QUICK charging.?

I dont believe in this 'fast charge cable' unless they show me an amplifier inside the cable itself. It is all based on power source, 1.0A 2.1A. Now if the cable kenot tahan the power sure burn one.

Maybe 'fast charging' cable means it can handle higher amounts of loads hence it is used for 'fast charging' which is determined by the source.

My statement is open for constructive criticism.

Quicker by 4 minutes ?
You call this 4 minutes saved is QUICK charging ?

http://www.verizonwireless.com/news/articl...ge-a-phone.html

Airplane mode will disable the power drained by the device when maintaining connectivity.
4 minutes saved is insignificant.


I always charged my devices when they are turned off.
This will eliminate the parasitic loads if they are still powered on.

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article...m_ion_batteries
Battery manufacturers advise against parasitic loads while charging because it induces mini-cycles

A portable device should be turned off during charge. This allows the battery to reach the set voltage threshold and current saturation point unhindered. A parasitic load confuses the charger by depressing the battery voltage and preventing the current in the saturation stage to drop low by drawing a leakage current. A battery may be fully charged, but the prevailing conditions will prompt a continued charge, causing stress.

This post has been edited by Hattori: Dec 30 2015, 09:05 AM

common sense right. u lubang 5inch u cucuk a 2inch stick sure can go in.

u lubang 5inch u cukuk 4inch then of course

many factors involved here
1. charger amperage
2. cable transfer amperage level
3. cable fast charging capability
4. phone charging capacity


like my mi3, max input is 2A, when i use my own fast charging cable with fat lines only can get around 1.8Amps. (my charger size is 5A)

1. if your phone detect is normal USB cable, then is 0.5A
2. if your phone max can charge at 1A, then if you use 2A charger and 2A cable, you will end up with 1A only.
3. fast charging is just a difference with the pinout where they shorted one of the data pin, your phone will detect this difference and allow more juice than 0.5A to flow in.
4. some of fast charging cable copper core is very thin, so can support around 1A only. good cables is thick on the core, with shorted pins to enable fast charging, and braided to prevent snapping when bent

This post has been edited by AllnGap: Dec 30 2015, 09:13 AM

pandai ini common sense.

your charger can be 2amps but cable must be 2amps to only fully utlized it. so it takes 3 hours to charge full

but if charger 2amps but cable 1amps then it will charge and 1amps.

download galaxy current tool to test the cable charging amps.

What gave you the idea that fast charging requires an amplifier inside the cable ?

You are right here, as I have seen it happen.
But as the point given in my post above, charger current only play one of the part in fast charging.
The next factor is the cable capability to support such current being transferred to the device.
Final factor is the device itself, whether it can draw that much current from the charger through the cable.

this app is not accurate at all,
i've tested using multimeter to test powerbank transfer and so i can verify that this app is very inaccurate.

fast charging capability is actually shorting one of the data pin.
once this pin feature is activated, your phone will allow more than 0.5A to flow through.
If not your phone will limit charging at 0.5A

It is a consumer term/ name. (or scam name ?)

The actual electrical name is the wire resistance.

Bought one at rm45 but saw lelong selling cheap cheap.. Tunaseng betol

I did post this before for PS Vita :
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...post&p=64076065

But not all device support this.
Apple devices have their own "intelligent negotiation" to internally activate the current draw.

This post has been edited by Hattori: Dec 30 2015, 09:33 AM

this

All microUSB devices use shorting method.

For apple cable is a small chip in its charging pin

Dis..true story..

My chapalang hp charge faster with 2.0A

If not mistaken

Apple charger has higher voltage around 5.3v

I tested with normal charger and apple charger on iPad conclusion is only apple charger capable of 2 amps.
Which i suspect was the difference in higher voltage

The apple cable charging is just some resistor to activate the charging. Normal cable won't charge.

You want to derail the thread ?

nope,

microUSB = shorting / resistor

apple is chip based thing on connector

http://i1363.photobucket.com/albums/r718/l...zps68cd16d7.png

This post has been edited by AllnGap: Dec 30 2015, 10:20 AM

I modify before la.

Just get 2pcs different reading resistor solder it to the wire. And you can charge the apple device. Need diagram.

different ler...

that is charging and no charging status.
apple damn cb, their cable got chip, their charger got quick charging (resistor you mention)

i tested before using those 2 using normal 5V adaptor, but couldnt get apple original charging amperage.

i suspect their charger is 5.3V, ours is only 5 or 5.1V

I don't understand what you mean different.

My modification is like this. I use solar to convert to 5V USB and thinking of charging all my gadget. But it won't charge the iphone or ipad even with the original cable.

So google around and find out that you need to solder some resistor into the USB port side. After modify, it work like charm.

Apple use higher voltage to compensate the long cable voltage drop. So when you use cheap cable, it drop further. (Impurity of the copper and the thin AWG)

Some battery can't take high amp to charge. It will shorten the life or hit up and fire. It have a formula to calculate. Depend on the phone designer. Otherwise it limited by the charger of amperage control.

like this, apple original cable cant charge on normal USB. they use resistor pinout modification to identify whether charger is original or not.

the thing i'm saying is that apple charger with apple cable only achieve the highest amperage transfer.
i tried using oem cable with high amp 5V charger but still the charging amperage is not as high as original charger + cable combination

I don't have the plug in amp usb checking. So I can't compare and tell the actual amp.

But I don't face any slow charging even using oem cable and adaptor. But my oem cable and adaptor is not cheap either.

for iphone makes not much difference, but for ipad makes a lot of difference because ipad battery is about 10,000mAh.

it's not whether the thing is cheap or not, it's whether is real or original or not.

even xiaomi cable also got fake man.....so many fake things floating in the market now

That is normal when you want cheap china thing.

But I not agree " it's whether is real or original or not". There is no wrong if you get cheap oem cable but high resist. Because it is cheap. But not fake.

People said you pay peanut, you get monkey.

I know about wire resistance. So I don't simply get cheap thing.

Even the oem ipad cable I get is a Belkin. So I don't see any different charging time with the original cable.

when u use the original ipad charger and test with amp meter then you will see the difference.
i suspect ipad charger charges at 5.3V, slightly higher than normal

I don't have the USB amp meter. So can't tell.

Maybe will try to get 1 and test compare.

I bought a few USB Volt/Amp meter and I can say not all cables are the same.
The charging current also different depending on the model of the phone and charger.
Btw, qualcom quickcharge does work at higher voltage. Too bad my usb meter can only measure up to 9V.

You can't charge at higher voltage. If your phone require 5V, you going to burn down your phone if you input 9V.

Ampere is the different.

I bought these 2 USB meters from Amazon :

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JUM2OE4
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NTU18KY

Very useful to determine whether the tested cable is up to the task or not.

I bought a 3 meter micro USB cable from All IT for RM 27, can't even charge higher than 0.8A.
I bought a cheap extremely thick 3 meter China USB cable extender from MR. DIY for RM 9, and amazingly this thing still can charge at 1.3A after adding the regular 1 meter micro USB cable at the extender end.

i give you a simple equation to get high output for charging.
from charger, cable and phone must be these type

[ charger output = 2A ] [ fast charging enabled cable @ 2A(thick copper core) ] [ phone capable of 2A charging ]

This post has been edited by AllnGap: Dec 30 2015, 11:33 AM

Phone that support Qualcom quickcharge can charge at much higher voltage.
However you need a charger and phone that can support the standard.

https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/quick-charge

For your case, thickness cable is the problem. Measure in AWG or mm2.

Higher amp require thicker cable to carried.

Exactly my point. You just explained my 3rd sentence. Thanks for the help.

I bought remax RM20 fast charging at pasar malam...damn, kena duped. Slower than regular USB...

I just read in detail.

It is not charging at 9v. It depend on the phone acceptable voltage.

The charger will handshake with the phone and settle at what voltage to accept. The phone processor (snapdragon have 5/9/12V ?). If your phone accept only 5v, than it charge at 5v with higher amp. Maximum of 18w.