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ozak
post Dec 30 2015, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(Bit0y @ Dec 30 2015, 12:21 AM)
I dont believe in this 'fast charge cable'  unless they show me an amplifier inside the cable itself. It is all based on power source, 1.0A 2.1A. Now if the cable kenot tahan the power sure burn one.

Maybe 'fast charging' cable means it can handle higher amounts of loads hence it is used for 'fast charging' which is determined by the source.

My statement is open for constructive criticism.
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It is a consumer term/ name. (or scam name ?)

The actual electrical name is the wire resistance.
ozak
post Dec 30 2015, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Dec 30 2015, 09:53 AM)
All microUSB devices use shorting method.

For apple cable is a small chip in its charging pin
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The apple cable charging is just some resistor to activate the charging. Normal cable won't charge.

ozak
post Dec 30 2015, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(LMAOWAT @ Dec 30 2015, 10:10 AM)
WHY YOU NEVER BUY FROM MARA?
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You want to derail the thread ?
ozak
post Dec 30 2015, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Dec 30 2015, 10:19 AM)
nope,

microUSB = shorting / resistor

apple is chip based thing on connector

http://i1363.photobucket.com/albums/r718/l...zps68cd16d7.png
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I modify before la.

Just get 2pcs different reading resistor solder it to the wire. And you can charge the apple device. Need diagram.
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post Dec 30 2015, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Dec 30 2015, 10:29 AM)
different ler...

that is charging and no charging status.
apple damn cb, their cable got chip, their charger got quick charging (resistor you mention)

i tested before using those 2 using normal 5V adaptor, but couldnt get apple original charging amperage.

i suspect their charger is 5.3V, ours is only 5 or 5.1V
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I don't understand what you mean different.

My modification is like this. I use solar to convert to 5V USB and thinking of charging all my gadget. But it won't charge the iphone or ipad even with the original cable.

So google around and find out that you need to solder some resistor into the USB port side. After modify, it work like charm.

Apple use higher voltage to compensate the long cable voltage drop. So when you use cheap cable, it drop further. (Impurity of the copper and the thin AWG)

Some battery can't take high amp to charge. It will shorten the life or hit up and fire. It have a formula to calculate. Depend on the phone designer. Otherwise it limited by the charger of amperage control.
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post Dec 30 2015, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Dec 30 2015, 10:52 AM)
like this, apple original cable cant charge on normal USB. they use resistor pinout modification to identify whether charger is original or not.

the thing i'm saying is that apple charger with apple cable only achieve the highest amperage transfer.
i tried using oem cable with high amp 5V charger but still the charging amperage is not as high as original charger + cable combination
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I don't have the plug in amp usb checking. So I can't compare and tell the actual amp.

But I don't face any slow charging even using oem cable and adaptor. But my oem cable and adaptor is not cheap either.
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post Dec 30 2015, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Dec 30 2015, 11:04 AM)
for iphone makes not much difference, but for ipad makes a lot of difference because ipad battery is about 10,000mAh.

it's not whether the thing is cheap or not, it's whether is real or original or not.

even xiaomi cable also got fake man.....so many fake things floating in the market now
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That is normal when you want cheap china thing.

But I not agree " it's whether is real or original or not". There is no wrong if you get cheap oem cable but high resist. Because it is cheap. But not fake.

People said you pay peanut, you get monkey.

I know about wire resistance. So I don't simply get cheap thing.

Even the oem ipad cable I get is a Belkin. So I don't see any different charging time with the original cable.
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post Dec 30 2015, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Dec 30 2015, 11:17 AM)
when u use the original ipad charger and test with amp meter then you will see the difference.
i suspect ipad charger charges at 5.3V, slightly higher than normal
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I don't have the USB amp meter. So can't tell.

Maybe will try to get 1 and test compare.
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post Dec 30 2015, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(yushin @ Dec 30 2015, 11:24 AM)
I bought a few USB Volt/Amp meter and I can say not all cables are the same.
The charging current also different depending on the model of the phone and charger.
Btw, qualcom quickcharge does work at higher voltage. Too bad my usb meter can only measure up to 9V.
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You can't charge at higher voltage. If your phone require 5V, you going to burn down your phone if you input 9V.

Ampere is the different.
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post Dec 30 2015, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(Hattori @ Dec 30 2015, 11:29 AM)
I bought these 2 USB meters from Amazon :

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JUM2OE4
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NTU18KY

Very useful to determine whether the tested cable is up to the task or not.

I bought a 3 meter micro USB cable from All IT for RM 27, can't even charge higher than 0.8A.
I bought a cheap extremely thick 3 meter China USB cable extender from MR. DIY for RM 9, and amazingly this thing still can charge at 1.3A after adding the regular 1 meter micro USB cable at the extender end.
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For your case, thickness cable is the problem. Measure in AWG or mm2.

Higher amp require thicker cable to carried.
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post Dec 30 2015, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(yushin @ Dec 30 2015, 11:34 AM)
Phone that support Qualcom quickcharge can charge at much higher voltage.
However you need a charger and phone that can support the standard.

https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/quick-charge
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I just read in detail.

It is not charging at 9v. It depend on the phone acceptable voltage.

The charger will handshake with the phone and settle at what voltage to accept. The phone processor (snapdragon have 5/9/12V ?). If your phone accept only 5v, than it charge at 5v with higher amp. Maximum of 18w.

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