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Boon3
post Sep 29 2015, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Sep 29 2015, 04:19 PM)
can buy pop corn n drinks d haha  biggrin.gif
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for what?



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post Sep 29 2015, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Sep 29 2015, 04:37 PM)
I want to see how u guys discuss on both your trading/investing strategies lo for Hibiscs.

I'm sure kueyteow has his reasons on why need to cheong Hibiscs right - whether based on technical indicators, fundamentals, juicy rumours, insider story etc.
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Popcorn cooked wrongly is bad for health. tongue.gif



Why don't you tell if you would buy or not that stock?


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post Sep 29 2015, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 29 2015, 04:41 PM)
WTF.. from -5-10% now +5+10% .. and that is IDX Index stocks...  icon_question.gif

Dammit all my net did not mange to catch any at low..  vmad.gif
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So how would you improve such situation?










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post Sep 29 2015, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Sep 29 2015, 05:31 PM)
Just my opinion only...

1. Based on current and past financials - No trade/invest.
2. Based on future prospects and oil prices - No trade/invest.
3. Based on chart - maybe yes for trading if the indicators are right supported with volume and right candlestick patterns.
4. You can ignore all the above and just ride the wave when they choose to goreng the stock. But must press sell button after making your targeted return (5 to 30% return) without being greedy and wanting for more.

Based on the overall chart, a good trader can make a few rounds of profit when the stock rebound. I believe this only applies to those who are familiar with how this counter is traded especially by management and the institutions/funds and roughly know when the goreng session will start and end.

Although there are tonnes of other stocks to trade, but if you know your stock well enough, no matter how shitty the company is, you can still make money.  moneyflies.gif
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Well done !!!

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Let's make it more interesting.... tongue.gif

Your points 3 & 4.... A bit too general la...

If it was you....

Would you trade this stock based on the charts?



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post Sep 29 2015, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 29 2015, 05:29 PM)
Too much volatility in IDX..  sad.gif

Err trade less?  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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Too much volatility?

LOL!

Aren't you an investor..............?

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post Sep 29 2015, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Sep 29 2015, 06:22 PM)
1. Downtrend for about 2 years since 13/12/13 at the high of 2.73 versus today of 0.68 = 75% drop
2. Each time showing lower highs, lower lows.
3. Probability of current share price going lower then the 52-week of 0.62 is definitely possible.
4. Past few day's trading volume was extraordinary/hyped up due to the announcement of proposed placement of 326.935 million new ordinary shares.
5. Given there is private placement of new shares, I believe the intention is to bring down the share price further, so that the new owner can get the shares cheaper.
6. If based on MACD and overall MA, share price still seems to indicate downtrend or sideways.
7. I'm ignoring RSI and Stochastics.

Overall, no trade for me based on the above points until I see more action on the share price and volume exceeding 20 MA convincingly with further confirmation. Preferably should exceed other MAs too.

I am not aggressive enough to scoop anything below 20 MA, unless I have a few strong fundamental facts to leverage on.
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WOW!!!!

We have a hidden tiger here..... notworthy.gif

I like your point of reasoning for points 1-4.

Well done!



I don't use indicators.... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

If you paper trade long enough learning with all those indicators and sometimes rojak-rojak.....
you would learn to unlearn all you learn.

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post Sep 29 2015, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Sep 29 2015, 02:37 PM)
Wa ... 68cents cleared ... Lol
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Waiting for your expert opinions now............... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif


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post Sep 29 2015, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Sep 29 2015, 06:47 PM)
sweat.gif I'm still learning .... Just started to take things more seriously since last year, when I should have done that 8 years ago. Considered quite late for me, but I guess nothing is ever too late if you really want to succeed.

There is a tonne of things to learn and unlearn. So, I'm moving along slowly one step at a time. Need to learn more from Sifu like yourself and hopefully achieve 10 bagger plus one day.

I think Hibiscs chart to some extend seems straight-forward. Other counters tend to be  rclxub.gif
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Never too late............... lah.

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When counters tend to be rclxub.gif .......


there's even a much more simpler ....... trick.


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post Sep 30 2015, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Sep 30 2015, 09:12 AM)
Wah lau, VS results still looks damn good. Interesting to see how long some more they can continue to grow at that pace.

Funds, institutions and insiders must be damn happy with share price performance with continuous upwards goreng haha.

boon3 Sifu assessment macam mana? Follow trend atau go survey for other better prospect?  biggrin.gif
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Look VS result is not a single bit unexpected...

The USD is simply MUCH stronger for the reporting 3 months and with the ringgit showing absolutely no signs of recovery, the USD factor is going to be strong for companies that sells in USD.

This trend was there.... for sometime already.

It's not new....

but as long as things remain how it is.... sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

the USD strength will continue for some time.




psssssssssst.
this trend was not difficult to spot.
all it takes is to spot it.... and sit on it.
YES, as most good traders will tell you....
the BIG money is in the sitting.


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post Sep 30 2015, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Sep 30 2015, 10:28 AM)
Yeah, noticed the uptrend started from Sept 2013 (around 1.25) until now.

Those who bought around that time and accumulated and hold till now sure HUAT kao kao d with all the dividends, share split etc.

I haven't done the IV calculations yet though to determine whether still worth to naik kereta. Might be worth the ride if do more homework, hopefully it doesn't land in Holland haha.
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Me trader and I don't do no IV....

he he...plus I do not know how count so deep. tongue.gif


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post Sep 30 2015, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 30 2015, 12:16 PM)
Apa itu IV? Fundamentals?  hmm.gif
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LOL !!!!

Out of all people you ask what is IV?


IV = 4

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post Sep 30 2015, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(kevraul @ Sep 30 2015, 12:30 PM)
current vs voltage plots
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Ok. You win.

Errrrr.......me no understanding...... sweat.gif

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post Sep 30 2015, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 30 2015, 01:21 PM)
Ok thanks...I thought Iv = Investment Valuation ...

I am noob at technicals..  sad.gif

Not like super sifu Ah Boon..  tongue.gif
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Huh?

I don't even know what is implied volatility....
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Sep 30 2015, 02:02 PM)
fa got use in Bursa ? ... seem like all counter is not following fundamental ... or because im too noob ?
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It's like horse racing.

You go race course....
How to know which horse to bet?

Don't you want to read horse book and see each horse fundamentals?




Of course...some don't....
They just whack only......

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Just like stocks eh?



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post Sep 30 2015, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Sep 30 2015, 01:55 PM)
Too expensive to attempt to goreng. Both stocks are supposedly beyond their fair value. But, nothing is considered max price, as long as there is a willing buyer and willing seller.

I do know some people who are actually trading BAT like a normal stock.
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Hello.... Helloooo........

You punya IV.....Apa tu? tongue.gif


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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Sep 30 2015, 02:33 PM)
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For me IV = Intrinsic value
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post Sep 30 2015, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(kevraul @ Sep 30 2015, 05:11 PM)
you are here to make money only ma, no need give any f**ks whether politically affected/connected or not.
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Err... don't you need to assess the risk your trade?
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QUOTE(TakoC @ Sep 30 2015, 05:00 PM)
Sold DiGi. What blue chip nice? Lol
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blue chip means good meh?




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QUOTE(TakoC @ Sep 30 2015, 05:24 PM)
I prefer to look at index linked stock now. Year end coming. Window dressing sure index ma.

Unless you got tipsie for me la tongue.gif
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LOL!!!

Ah Gark got plenty of tipsie not me. tongue.gif
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post Sep 30 2015, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Sep 30 2015, 05:30 PM)
Gark play indonesia moi. I like local tongue.gif
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He no tell you only nia................ tongue.gif

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