Arnie is a 101 model...he can be in any body in the T8XX series.
I think he was in a T888 body in T4...cause thats the strongest T8XX series around and had a higher melting point than the T800 or T850.
Thats the most logical reason Arnie could kill the malfunction T800 robot easily and withstand the hot metal coming out of the furnace.

I've seen Christian Bale doing much better acting that this woody character.

Things will be even better in the series to come...I would expect the event of human peace or wining the war to be better than The Matrix (which is oledi very good).

You forgot T4 bro...what your opinion of it..

Take your time bro...

I understand you bro, I also same, but TSCC actually wasn't that good fro me...especially a few episodes towards the end....the built up to it was pretty lame...and the last episode was not very good...infact, a few TSCC fans did their version of TSCC ending and theirs were better...more hard core..more of what we expect....and when they pull the plug on TSCC...I was relieved as not to waste my time for another season.

T4 just didn't cut it....as i said, I rated it 6/10 only cos' the actions and arnie was there even in CGI...or else it would be 4/10.
i want to rate T4 higher, but that would only be lying to myself.

That one made me think that Type 101 (Arnie) was in T888 body instead of T800...cause his endoskeleton looked bigger than those T800.
T888 are strongest in the 800 series and more heat resistance due to the fancy metals they used. Even in TSCC, Cameron had to use a mixture of rare metal (thermite) to melt them.
But thats only a guess.

This post has been edited by azbro: May 30 2009, 12:18 AM

Hey...story was OK only...but for 11 bucks.....I'll pay the ticket price just to see Arnie reading a phone book...even if CGI...haha..Arnie fanz.

Its worth it....there are many lamer stories that are worth 11bucks.

So go watch it....

Not to say CGI is no good, but using CGI can still make the impossible scenes , possible..BUT

Thats to show that real live action using stunt man and proper props is still better than CGI stuff where possible.

The most memorable scene at the police station when arnie said 'I'll be back' for the first time, before crashing his car into the building killing the front desk police man.

I remembered there was mention of Brian Austin Green (Derek Reese in Sarah Chronicles) in T4....can't see him...or probably I was sleeping...need watch T4 again..... waiting for Directors/Extended Cut Bluray version to come out.

T1001...and Cameron (TOK715) are worth mentioning...T888 Cromartie is also brutal....taking out SWAT team was fantastically done...a scene to remember.

This post has been edited by azbro: May 30 2009, 11:43 PM

Couldn't agree better...she was annoying and what she did was purely like a kids decision....she knows that Marcus is a cyborg and they told her that he did all that just to get to the resistance...yet she freed him....and all of this is coming from a responsible and professional A-10 Pilot was is suppose to follow directions...the characters was just out......but I think mukhlisz means the actress and not the character.....Moon Bloodgood is nice...

Anyway, since I'm a fan of arnie as well, just rewatched 'True Lies' this morning (after so many years)...my god..I forgot how a crazy film can be so entertaining, with impossible actions and cheap one lines and laughs which was good!...man...I missed him..

John Henry, Cameron, Catherine Weaver and probably a cyborg version of James Ellison.

Yes, i know some of them are against Skynet, but somehow they regroup and support the stronger side.

haha...if only it was true...

Terminator robots and cyborgs are in a class of their own in non stop suspense and effective/efficient way of wiping out human from the face of the earth...combine with a simple storyline and a iconic actor, cheap one liners and jokes, previous Terminator movies rocks....I also like the approach of TTSCC of how they portray the machine perspective on the whole thing and also they didn't need to have arnie...cromartie, cameron and the T1001 did a great job in providing the actions (although not much, but very well executed). No doubt, we can't escape to a new perspective of John Henry and Weaver's quest for knowledge that was missing from Terminator movies.

kinda agree with you, McG will never win if its a showdown of robots.

hmmm...I was thinking...

1. How on earth did Marcus reached Skynet first when Connor was doing 300kmh on the Moto-Terminator bike!!...maybe I missed something...hmm...must watch again...
2. This one i wanna get it clear from my mind.....i think I'm wrong....Did Connor took a jeep and try the signal thing on a HK close to skynet? If it was that close, why did he need to travel far with the Terminator bike?

Some elements of capturing Terminators and Time Travel (last episode of TTSCC) were covered by TTSCC. Although they could make a more detail explanation of it in the next movie, I think they should cover more of the war either with non stop action thats entertaining rather than going back in time and so forth. I think McG had a hard time as well since most of the period before Judgment day has been covered more or less in previous shows.
Come to think of it, yes we all know senseless killings etc are crude and no brainer way of making a movie, but take note, some movies are so bad that they even get high marks and followings from fanz.
Style, attitude and creative ideas and suspense is also important...that makes arnie so iconic and movies like 'The Matrix' unforgettable no matter whats the ratings.



This post has been edited by azbro: May 31 2009, 09:19 PM

I really dun understand the whole meaning of time travel in Terminator....what if someone travel back in time and killed my grandpa etc....so what?...I'm still here mah....do they expect me to suddenly disappear in front of my computer and all my 900++ post in LOWYAT all disappear also?

Regarding the cloth...so far only you mention it...probably Arnie just come of of the production line just in time to confront Connor.

I dun blame you bro....its has turn full circle scenario....now i suddenly question myself on this time travel thing....mind games...mind games...I can choose to ignore it and go with the flow, or question everything abt the storyline....
I decide to go with the flow, the illogical time travel thing will always be in the back of my mind...cause if i question it too much, I better stop at Terminator 1.

Here is a timeline...I summaries the one in Terminator Wiki, hope it answers your question

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If got mistake, please feedback, I'll change it. Take note, the years are taken from reference of Terminator movies and also TSCC.
Some say Reese was born in 2008...but the logical one would be 2002.
I made it simple. I didn't put in other stuff like J day as it might confuse ppl.


This post has been edited by azbro: Jun 1 2009, 04:06 PM

What you say means John Connor should have not existed in the first place!

It depends bro....what is the future, what is the past and what is the present.

For me, 2029 is the present for T1.
2029 is also the present for T2.
2032 is the present for T3
2018 for T4....

Yes...you might say, what is past is past...even if you change it, nothing will happen in the present.
Then you have to read the grandpa's paradox as mention above....


This post has been edited by azbro: Jun 1 2009, 04:21 PM

I'm also trying to understand the timeline as well.

This is T4...year is 2018
For me, saving Kyle was just an option, cause he has oledi accomplish his mission is 1984...and died.
Connor saved the Kyle in T4 maybe due to good deed...of course any son will do that....he will not sent kyle back to 1985 any longer.

What abt T1? Present year was 2029....actually, when the terminator and Kyle was sent to the past, it automatically resets everything....even Judgement day in 1997 is moved to 2004, 2005 and in TSCC 2011.

So, conclusion, each time a terminator is set back to the past.....the present (or future) changes.

Hmm....actually, Terminator movies are not abt. mumbo jumbo Time Travel....yes, they had the technology, but thats all secondary. Terminator movies is more than that....not many ppl question this timeline thing until T4

Killing Reese in 2018 means nothing. Connor is alive and well in 2018. So Skynet had no other way but to kill Connor in the present time.
Kyle Reese had done his job in 1984 and died....he was born in 2002 and was sent back in 2029 by Connor....thats it....the end of Kyle time travel.
He will not send another Kyle Reese back in time....so if the dies...it will not change anything.
But each time a terminator is send back in time, it will change the present/future.....the biggest example is J Day being push forward to 2011 from 1997.


This post has been edited by azbro: Jun 1 2009, 06:34 PM

well...I guess, nevermind abt T4, theres always T5 to look forward too...

aiyoh...dun be like that lah...after all T4 wasn't that all bad....
I wanna see T5 and the finale T6 cause I wanna see how Connor dies, his last breath or words spoken of a true leader (not the video game version)...and how the human victorious over the machines...and since its a Terminator Movie....the terror of the machines that makes you jump out your seat in fear...and the resourcefulness of the human that wins the war.