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 Fixed Deposit Rates In Malaysia V. No.9, Please Read Post#1 and #3

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post Aug 7 2015, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(magika @ Aug 7 2015, 12:35 PM)
Just a note .

Am in CIMB now, the counter staff says now all FD deposit must open CASA for upliftment as is Bank Negara requirement for anti laundering paper trail. 26 billion then only no need tongue.gif
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Magic, I just placed FD with UOB 2 days ago, but UOB did not ask me to open CASA wor... hmm.gif

By the way.. US$ was 3.93 at 11.50am, now 3.908..very volatile..oh now 3.914..
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post Aug 7 2015, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(magika @ Aug 7 2015, 12:35 PM)
Just a note .

Am in CIMB now, the counter staff says now all FD deposit must open CASA for upliftment as is Bank Negara requirement for anti laundering paper trail. 26 billion then only no need tongue.gif
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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Aug 7 2015, 02:35 PM)
For the <12 mths FD, no issue. UOB previous 13 mth FD need CASA to credit the interest.

Ah Sir....Magic said all FDs have to open CASA in order to anti money laundering as required
by BNM.. sweat.gif

QUOTE(bbgoat @ Aug 7 2015, 02:35 PM)
This SCB, really have issue. My RM is now checking for me on the issue I mentioned yesterday.  doh.gif
My first batch interest of Standard Chartered Bank's 4.5% FD will pay to my saving account next month, don't know
if I can receive it on time or not..? sweat.gif

QUOTE(bbgoat @ Aug 7 2015, 02:35 PM)
I am watching very closely. Regret did not take action last week.  sad.gif  cry.gif
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Oh..What type of action? Buy low sell high..?
Now is 3.929.... the movement of fluctuation is very fast...

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post Aug 7 2015, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(magika @ Aug 7 2015, 04:09 PM)
Dont know lah, sometimes counter staff say all sort of things just to convince their action. Like how almost all banks RM used to say rate will go down since a few years ago.
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Magic, you placed FD in CIMB?
What rate did you get..?

QUOTE(cybpsych @ Aug 7 2015, 03:22 PM)
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RinggitPlus: Get a Free 2GB iPod Shuffle with Bank Simpanan Nasional (BSN) Fixed Deposit [ RinggitPlus | T&Cs ]
5 August 2015 - 5 October 2015

5-Year @ 4.50%, min. RM15k fresh fund

Limited to the first 200 (two hundred) accountholders
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I do not think a Free 2GB iPod Shuffle is attractive enough for this 5 year FD promo that
pays interest upon FD maturity... hmm.gif

If BSN & Ringgit Plus are sincere to run this promo, offer JBL sound bar lah... biggrin.gif

QUOTE(bbgoat @ Aug 7 2015, 05:14 PM)
The issue is I have 3 of the same type. First received the interest 2 weeks ago. Second one due 2 days ago.  doh.gif
So you have 3 FDs, you received the 1st on time; 2nd not on time; 3rd don't know yet.. sweat.gif

QUOTE(bbgoat @ Aug 7 2015, 05:14 PM)
You think I am a trader ?  brows.gif
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Aiyo... today closed at 3.945... sweat.gif
Ah Sir, you just missed the chance to buy US dollar in this early afternoon... biggrin.gif

Any expert can explain what are the impacts on Malaysia FD rate if the US dollar is keep going up?

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post Aug 10 2015, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Aug 10 2015, 06:01 PM)
As to the SCB 15 mth 4.5% interest crediting issue, my RM updated me that they are doing manual crediting for me. As mentioned before, I have 3 FD for this promo. First one got the interest credited, but 2nd one is not. 3rd one next month.

This sound similar to the previous 15 mth 4.25% interest crediting issue that Ah Boom and others (including me) faced Feb/March this year (FD placed Aug/Sept last year).  shakehead.gif How SCB keeps on having this type of issue is  doh.gif

Those that have this FD promo need to check when the 6 mth is up.  smile.gif
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Thanks for the update.. notworthy.gif Ah Sir..

Don't know if we can receive the 2nd batch of 6 month interest from 4.25% FD on time (19 Sept) or not this time...?
But I doubt it lah..

Quite troublesome to get the Service Manager/RM to help us to chase for interest like this... doh.gif

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post Aug 10 2015, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Aug 10 2015, 07:39 PM)
I sure hope they have fixed the issue. My next batch is the same date as yours.

Do you have the SCB 15 mth 4.5% one placed ?  hmm.gif
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Yes.. my 1st batch of 4.5% FD's interest is available on 4 Sept if SCB will pay me on time..

QUOTE(bbgoat @ Aug 10 2015, 07:43 PM)
I bought bank draft of USD at 3.9590 at CB today.  cry.gif Got some cash at 3.93 from money changers.

Evening news said RM is heading to 4.05 level !!  sweat.gif
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Oh.. why you bought bank draft..?
For your kid or CD..? hmm.gif

Oh.. 4.05..?
I think property market is in a deep shxt..!!

I have a feeling BSN wants to "lock" depositors by offering 4.5% for 5 years..
And MBSB's 4.5% for 18 months could be a "small" set up too... hmm.gif

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post Aug 10 2015, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Aug 10 2015, 08:34 PM)
Bank draft for school fees and living expenses. CD going to U.S. and subsidize them ?  hmm.gif Maybe only if I am going with them.  tongue.gif

If the USD rate goes to 4.05 or beyond, deep shxx lah !  mad.gif
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Oh..I think CD will reduce unless if can add more tips to them..

It looks like very possible to reach beyond 4.05% soon....

I started to worry about my 5 years FD since yesterday... sad.gif
But this is the risk I am going to take...let it be lah...

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post Aug 14 2015, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(magika @ Aug 14 2015, 10:42 AM)
OCBC new promo 6 months 4.00% 13 months 4.20% interest credit into CASA at interval 6+6+1 months.
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Magic, Thanks for the info... notworthy.gif

UOB 5 months FD is 4.00% VS OCBC 6 months 4.00%

QUOTE(bbgoat @ Aug 14 2015, 11:24 AM)
Ah Boom, still tracking USD rate ?

Just now saw CB TT rate of USD RM 4.1565 !!!! Sharp rise today for USD vs RM !!!

My UT in CB lose 4% over 2 weeks, may be even more later on !  sad.gif
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Ya loh.. Ah Sir...
Wah.. this morning RM was quite weak to against US$ and Singapore dollar..

I guess Singapore dollar will hit RM 3.00 very soon...
What is a big shame to Malaysia..
Don't know if some Malaysia politicians feel malu or not..? hmm.gif

Sorry to hear you lose 4%... sad.gif

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post Aug 14 2015, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Aug 14 2015, 12:15 PM)
With the RM down even more today, if KLCI down also, my UT lose will be more the coming days !  sweat.gif  sad.gif
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Oh...Can you cut lost now..?
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QUOTE(pearl_white @ Aug 18 2015, 02:41 PM)
4.285%.  RM1k BR will also entertain!!! 

If you cannot get, I really donno what to say.  Maybe the counter staff couldn't understand.  blink.gif
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Please show your BR FD cert to prove it..... biggrin.gif

BR Board Rates as of 18 August 2015
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QUOTE(magika @ Aug 18 2015, 10:11 AM)
Last week placed 2 joint FD much more that <100k  but did not ask for nego got 4.1% 12 months only. shakehead.gif
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Magic, if you did not ask, then BR would assume you were happy and satisfied with the rate.
You were supposed to ask for a better rate since you have been putting money in BR for a long time..

QUOTE(bbgoat @ Aug 18 2015, 10:07 AM)
Ah Boom & Big Magician, have u guys called BR to confirm even 1k can get 4.285% in Klang Valley ? For Penang, I don't think for 1k can get that.  biggrin.gif
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Ah Sir, I did not call.
But based on my experience with BR, I think to get extra 0.5% is possible lah but the FD amount has to be more than
RM 50K.

QUOTE(yygo @ Aug 18 2015, 03:31 PM)
1k to get extra 0.185%, br that hard up??  laugh.gif cannot believe. that guy has to show proof. rclxm9.gif
12 month 5%, ridiculous. he simply quote only. show proof please.
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Ya loh.. 1k can get 4.285% sounds not possible.. hmm.gif

Well...this is possible only if he is related to carpet man lah.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Aug 18 2015, 11:07 AM)
Hello, BR has nothing to do with MOF.
BR is a cooperative bank under KPDNKK.

It's very wrong and misleading to equate  "Only if there is bailout." as a same protection as PIDM. You are literally saying no protection = with protection.

bailout is not capital guarantee, capital guarantee is this:
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Since BR is a cooperative bank under KPDNKK --- Kementerian Perdagangan Dalam Negeri, Koperasi dan Kepenggunaan.

Does it mean that all depositors' money in FD deposits, saving accounts and current accounts are under the
protection/guarantee by KPDNKK..????

And since KPDNKK is a government department, does it mean that BR is under the protection/guarantee of the government?

How about MBSB?
Adalah semua duit di MBSB di jaminkan oleh KWSP..? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(kyenli @ Aug 18 2015, 01:56 AM)
Just placed my eggs in RHB. I actually banked in using a RHB cheque and there was no questions asked...so I guess their definition of fresh fund is pretty much 'flexible'.
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Wah...? Really steady... thumbup.gif
I think the RHB staff is a new staff...Ha Ha..

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 18 2015, 04:17 PM)
All company are limited, aka Berhad.

Why it called limited or Berhad?
Because liabilities stay within the company, aka limited within the company, it doesn't go beyond shareholders.

Owner of company or shareholders of company do not bare the company liabilities.
So it is same with banks (as banks also a Berhad entity).
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Affin Bank, RHB Bank, Alliance Bank also call Berhad, but all depositors' money are protected by PIDM, up to
RM 250K per person per bank.

So, any kind of protection for BR and MBSB's depositors? hmm.gif

Last time I called to BR before I placed my first FD there, the BR staff said BR was protected by Ministry of Finance.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Aug 18 2015, 04:23 PM)
0.5% extra for 1 year placement ? I manage to get I think extra 0.2% for amt >100k 12 mth FD about 2 years ago only. You are referring to 61 mth deal to get 0.5% ??  hmm.gif
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Oh.. doh.gif Sorry typo error..
What I meant was 0.05%...not 0.5% Ha ha.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 18 2015, 04:42 PM)
The issue "berhad" I brought up is about the liabilities doesn't go beyond shareholders.
Those PIDM guaranteed amount is not from banks' shareholders.
So no contraction.

If BR is owned by MoF, and if the bank deposit is not stated "guaranteed by Malaysia gov" just like BSN, we cannot say it is guaranteed, even though in the most worst circumstance, there may be bail out by gov that resulted liabilities of bank is fulfilled.

Even though at the end of day it may looks the same (deposit still intact), but when there is no clause or any law stated the deposit is guaranteed, then it is not guaranteed. As simple as that.
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 18 2015, 04:43 PM)
Nope
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Oh.. sweat.gif

QUOTE(bbgoat @ Aug 18 2015, 04:51 PM)
sweat.gif I thought the ABM "cheated" me.  laugh.gif Ya, as I know it, the BM can give 0.05%, division manager can give 0.1%, HQ beyond that. Unless they changed the rule now.  biggrin.gif

But nego rate has to be 50k onwards. Changed to 1k ? Proof needed.  biggrin.gif
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Ah Sir, obviously you have a good PR with BR.... thumbup.gif

QUOTE(Nauts @ Aug 18 2015, 05:29 PM)
Thanks for the info. But the above link is dead.. sad.gif

I have received my monthly interest on time from previous Alliance Bank FD promo at 4.2% for 12 months... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Aug 18 2015, 07:38 PM)
Sifu,

From my limited understanding, I don't think deposits in BR and MBSB has any protection or guarantee written in black and white. But there is a "feel good" factor about these two DFIs because both BR and MBSB are government owned. If anything goes wrong, very likely Gomen will bail them out but under no obligation whatsoever.
Therefore, if you were to ask me to rate deposit protection like rating agency style, I would rate BSN's simpanan dijamin kerajaan as A+, commercial banks with PIDM as A and government linked DFIs as A-.
No right or wrong.  biggrin.gif
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Thanks for the info..

I keep this in mind.. thumbup.gif Quite steady explanation & rating....
(1) I would rate BSN's simpanan dijamin kerajaan as A+,

(2) commercial banks with PIDM as A

(3) and government linked DFIs as A-
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 18 2015, 08:50 PM)
Incorrect
In fact, both BR n BSN is DFI whereas MBSB is an exempt finance co
I wud assign 'top' protection to BSN (g'tee by Gomen), follow by BR n MBSB
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So, since both BR and BSN are Development Financial Institutions,
why you rated BSN is number 1 and BR is number 2..? hmm.gif

I guess BR and MBSB cannot be the same category in term of "protection"; as what aeiou228 mentioned,
BR is under Kementerian Perdagangan Dalam Negeri, Koperasi, dan Kepenggunaa; whereas the only advantage
of MBSB is that EPF owns more than 60% of MBSB share.

If I am not mistaken, KWSP is only a semi government organization..
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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Aug 19 2015, 10:26 AM)
Chased my SCB RM on the late interest for the 15 mth 4.5% FD. He apologized and said already submitted for "manual interest calculation". Why take so long ?

Not all foreign banks have good system in place.  doh.gif First similar FD received interest then why second one cannot ?  shakehead.gif
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Last time the SCB Service Manager told me this is the first time SCB runs FD promo longer than 12 months tenure,
so probably SCB system cannot generate auto credit interest to saving account for FD more than 12 months. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(pearl_white @ Aug 19 2015, 12:11 PM)
If ppl take up BR's 4.285% p.a., the rate for 15 months would be 5.356%.
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What kind of protection from BR if we put FD there..? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(kyenli @ Aug 19 2015, 02:41 PM)
Mine is (2) Renew principal at prevailing rate for same term, credit interest to same currency account number . Is there a difference arr? What's yours?
Small potato they don't want to layan me haha.
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If your SCB FD tenure is 12 months or less, you will receive interest upon FD maturity.
If your FD is longer than 12 months tenure, you will receive interest every 6 months.

You can see these terms & conditions on your SCB FD cert.

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